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Have You Ever Seen One While Out Hunting? #9151862 12/11/24 01:22 PM
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Well, I'm happy to report I learned something new today, I learned that there is an animal called a Jaguarundi. My boss was telling me many years ago on his ranch in south Texas, he and his buddy was driving along a dirt path and saw a Jaguarundi. I did a little research and saw their areas where they roam, and saw they do occasionally set up territory in south Texas. Interesting little animal, kinda looked evil to me in the pictures I saw. So I was just wondering if anyone had seen one while they were out hunting, or even while travelling to some foreign land south of us.


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They are there but pretty rare. Same with Ocelots.

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An OT expert on here says they're not native to Texas. He's wrong of course.

Funny how any mention of any kind of cat on here triggers a "lively banter" that devolves into typical social media rancor.

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We had an occasional jaguarundi on the ranch in southern Medina County back in the 60's-80's. I don't think that one has been seen since then. There was one seen several times on a ranch north of Menard, a couple of years ago. I think that there are more mountain lions than jaguarundi in Texas at this time.
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Yes sir, late 70s/early 80s on our lease near Roma, TX in Starr County. A few mountain lions as well there. Too bad not as many nice deer though...

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I’ve not seen one. I sold a ranch in Frio county where the landowner called it up several times when varmint hunting (he did not shoot it thankfully). Few miles as the crow flies another landowner had seen one as well.

I’ve not had the fortune to see any rare or big cats. Few bobcats is about it. I would love to see a mountain lion but it’s not been in the cards as of yet.


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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
I’ve not seen one. I sold a ranch in Frio county where the landowner called it up several times when varmint hunting (he did not shoot it thankfully). Few miles as the crow flies another landowner had seen one as well.

I’ve not had the fortune to see any rare or big cats. Few bobcats is about it. I would love to see a mountain lion but it’s not been in the cards as of yet.

You've only seen a few bobcats? I've killed a dozen, seen plenty more from far East Texas to the panhandle and Cross Timbers Region. Are they that rare in your neck of the woods?


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Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
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I’ve not seen one. I sold a ranch in Frio county where the landowner called it up several times when varmint hunting (he did not shoot it thankfully). Few miles as the crow flies another landowner had seen one as well.

I’ve not had the fortune to see any rare or big cats. Few bobcats is about it. I would love to see a mountain lion but it’s not been in the cards as of yet.

You've only seen a few bobcats? I've killed a dozen, seen plenty more from far East Texas to the panhandle and Cross Timbers Region. Are they that rare in your neck of the woods?
not every one is as lucky as you seem to be or ?


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in my early Mexico years around 80 or 81 we crossed at Roma to a large ranch we weren't seeing many deer the rancher ask why we were hunting during the day, that kinda told the story but that ranch had a lot of different animals we hadn't seen before I saw a Jagurandi smaller than a bob different spots, Chacalacka look like a brown pheasant,and huge I mean huge rattlesnakes big like the ones around Hebronville, also ive seen 4 lions while in Mexico,unfortunetly the sightings were all on the way or leaving. the ranches we were hunting

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Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
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I’ve not seen one. I sold a ranch in Frio county where the landowner called it up several times when varmint hunting (he did not shoot it thankfully). Few miles as the crow flies another landowner had seen one as well.

I’ve not had the fortune to see any rare or big cats. Few bobcats is about it. I would love to see a mountain lion but it’s not been in the cards as of yet.

You've only seen a few bobcats? I've killed a dozen, seen plenty more from far East Texas to the panhandle and Cross Timbers Region. Are they that rare in your neck of the woods?

Frisco has tons of bobcats. See them almost daily.

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Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
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I’ve not seen one. I sold a ranch in Frio county where the landowner called it up several times when varmint hunting (he did not shoot it thankfully). Few miles as the crow flies another landowner had seen one as well.

I’ve not had the fortune to see any rare or big cats. Few bobcats is about it. I would love to see a mountain lion but it’s not been in the cards as of yet.

You've only seen a few bobcats? I've killed a dozen, seen plenty more from far East Texas to the panhandle and Cross Timbers Region. Are they that rare in your neck of the woods?


I’ve probably only seen around 10 or 12 or so in the field.

Did see one the other day while I was talking to a guy in a fenceline, it was following a covey of quail.

We have plenty of them, I just don’t see a lot. Even when I’m varmint calling. Been lucky enough to kill two, shoot at 2 more and miss and the rest have been incidental sightings.

Same thing with rattlesnakes, In 30 years of beating around the brush country I just have not come across that many relative to the time I spend out there, Which I’m not upset about btw.

Water moccasins are a different story. Seen enough of those to last two lifetimes


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i've seen many bobcats. never seen a mountain lion though have heard reports of them in the vicinity at times. we hunt relatively deep stx now and see some other rarer animals, horney toads, something called Texas tortoises. never an ocelot or jaguarundi that i'm aware of. it could happen though i suppose.


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I am pretty sure I saw a Jaguarundi a few years back on the way to fish Choke Canyon. Before daylight on FM 99 between I37 and Whitsett. Ran across the road in front of the truck. Bigger than a house cat and smaller than a bobcat. Dark in color with a ridiculously long tail. Wish I had a dash cam at the time.

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Originally Posted by DQ Kid
Yes sir, late 70s/early 80s on our lease near Roma, TX in Starr County. A few mountain lions as well there. Too bad not as many nice deer though...


The first lion I ever saw crossed the highway just north of Roma in about 1965. Since then, I have seen them in the Navajo Nation, NM, Brewster County, LaSalle County and almost in Menard County but that's another story.
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Originally Posted by Adchunts
I am pretty sure I saw a Jaguarundi a few years back on the way to fish Choke Canyon. Before daylight on FM 99 between I37 and Whitsett. Ran across the road in front of the truck. Bigger than a house cat and smaller than a bobcat. Dark in color with a ridiculously long tail. Wish I had a dash cam at the time.


Just north and west of there, I had the same observation on a ranch road. Me and Donger didn't know what we had seen. Definitely a cat we had never seen prior.

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Originally Posted by Hudbone
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I am pretty sure I saw a Jaguarundi a few years back on the way to fish Choke Canyon. Before daylight on FM 99 between I37 and Whitsett. Ran across the road in front of the truck. Bigger than a house cat and smaller than a bobcat. Dark in color with a ridiculously long tail. Wish I had a dash cam at the time.


Just north and west of there, I had the same observation on a ranch road. Me and Donger didn't know what we had seen. Definitely a cat we had never seen prior.



The long tail is a dead giveaway.

They are long and slinky and low to the ground. Pretty cool animals


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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
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I am pretty sure I saw a Jaguarundi a few years back on the way to fish Choke Canyon. Before daylight on FM 99 between I37 and Whitsett. Ran across the road in front of the truck. Bigger than a house cat and smaller than a bobcat. Dark in color with a ridiculously long tail. Wish I had a dash cam at the time.


Just north and west of there, I had the same observation on a ranch road. Me and Donger didn't know what we had seen. Definitely a cat we had never seen prior.



The long tail is a dead giveaway.

They are long and slinky and low to the ground. Pretty cool animals


My sighting had the tail, a greyish coat, about the height of a bobcat but, longer in the body. It was about ten yards in front of us.

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Originally Posted by Creekrunner
An OT expert on here says they're not native to Texas. He's wrong of course.

Funny how any mention of any kind of cat on here triggers a "lively banter" that devolves into typical social media rancor.


Why do facts bother some of y'all so much?
There have only been 5 jaguarundi ever documented in Texas. All 5 were in the 2 counties in the southern tip. The last one was in 1986. If anyone is actually interested, Jonah Evans is TP&W state mammoligist and he has a video about jaguarundi.

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Facts are fine. You stated they're not native. What possesses someone to stand guard on a forum for the sole purpose of arguing?

Here's a fact - you're a sphincter.


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I have to call BS on 5 documented sightings in wild, my sighting was 1 time in late 70s in a known county they range in, Starr county on MX border in South Texas. Had friend or two that saw 1 down there as well in early to mid 80s, guess those are 3 of the 5 sightings, lol...

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5 documents sighting as in 5 that could be proven by what measure?

I know 3 guys who have personally seen one. All in the same 5 mile radius.



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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
5 documents sighting as in 5 that could be proven by what measure?

I know 3 guys who have personally seen one. All in the same 5 mile radius.


If TPW didn't see it, it wasn't there.

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Documented sighting statistics are worthless.

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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Documented sighting statistics are worthless.


People claiming they have seen them are more worthless. Just look at how many people claim to see black panthers, Bigfoot and the lochness monster.

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Originally Posted by Triton$
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An OT expert on here says they're not native to Texas. He's wrong of course.

Funny how any mention of any kind of cat on here triggers a "lively banter" that devolves into typical social media rancor.


Why do facts bother some of y'all so much?
There have only been 5 jaguarundi ever documented in Texas. All 5 were in the 2 counties in the southern tip. The last one was in 1986. If anyone is actually interested, Jonah Evans is TP&W state mammoligist and he has a video about jaguarundi.

chicken Here we go again!


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Facts are fine. You stated they're not native. What possesses someone to stand guard on a forum for the sole purpose of arguing?

Here's a fact - you're a sphincter.

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5 documents sighting as in 5 that could be proven by what measure?

I know 3 guys who have personally seen one. All in the same 5 mile radius.


If TPW didn't see it, it wasn't there.



We should claim they Jagarundis carry and spread CWD.

We will have a lot more verified sightings


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never seen one. I have seen one mountain lion in person and a couple on trail cams in SW TX. Still looking for a Black Panther though.

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It doesn't matter how many people see something if you don't have a wildlife degree you didn't really see it.

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Originally Posted by RPLS
It doesn't matter how many people see something if you don't have a wildlife degree you didn't really see it.


Wise words... and those kids starve to death, or, go into the extension service; and I've met a couple of real losers in that line of work.


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It doesn't matter how many people see something if you don't have a wildlife degree you didn't really see it.


Wise words... and those kids starve to death, or, go into the extension service; and I've met a couple of real losers in that line of work.



Just a couple?


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Originally Posted by DQ Kid
Yes sir, late 70s/early 80s on our lease near Roma, TX in Starr County. A few mountain lions as well there. Too bad not as many nice deer though...


Saw one once on Loma Blanca Road in Starr County, years ago (early 80s) when I worked down there for the BP.

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It doesn't matter how many people see something if you don't have a wildlife degree you didn't really see it.


Wise words... and those kids starve to death, or, go into the extension service; and I've met a couple of real losers in that line of work.



Just a couple?


'Listened to a couple of extension podcasts. One, the host talked about her guest's bio for 20 minutes. What kid under 30 has a bio worth talking about for 20 minutes? He wasn't a Navy Seal. The other one the young man was supposedly a pig expert. He supposedly LOVED visiting ranches and advising on the pig situation. I emailed him. Weeks later I got a response, asking when I was available. I answered that I was open for 2 months, then nothing. I sent another email asking if he got my previous response. 'Never heard from him again.

They're just happy little clams in the bubble, some say cult, of College Station.

And the kid that used to be in Kimble a couple guys back...poor devil.


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The place I hunt in Crockett County, almost down to Pandale, a few years ago I saw something when it was dusty dark come into a feeder. I stared thru my binoculars until it was so dark I could no longer see it. It looked like a mountain lion in shape but way to small. Sleek body, very long tail, fairly solid dark in color. After I got home to have computer access, about the only thing it could have been was a Jaguarundi. I told the LO about it and she started researching as well. We are only about 40 miles due north of Langtry, so I guess one could have slipped up from Mexico.

The adjoining LO has taken 4-5 mountain lions over the past several years with more sightings this past fall including a bear. so I guess it's possible


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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Documented sighting statistics are worthless.


With respect to actual numbers of anything, yes.

Necessary nonetheless....as TP&W will 'try' to verify sightings and come up with some kind of number to report.

They (TP&W) know that some of the other reported sightings are probably true. But they also know when it comes to CAT sightings, people come out of the woodwork with claims to having seen one (Mountain Lion, Black Panther, Jaguarundi).

Hell...I could go tomorrow to the barbershop, bring up the subject and have no less than 10 people claim to have seen a Black Panther or know someone who has. So.....TP&W rightfully approach reports with some amount of skepticism.


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Originally Posted by flintknapper
Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Documented sighting statistics are worthless.


With respect to actual numbers of anything, yes.

Necessary nonetheless....as TP&W will 'try' to verify sightings and come up with some kind of number to report.

They (TP&W) know that some of the other reported sightings are probably true. But they also know when it comes to CAT sightings, people come out of the woodwork with claims to having seen one (Mountain Lion, Black Panther, Jaguarundi).

Hell...I could go tomorrow to the barbershop, bring up the subject and have no less than 10 people claim to have seen a Black Panther or know someone who has. So.....TP&W rightfully approach reports with some amount of skepticism.



I saw a typical Mt Lion on what is now my place in Mississippi years ago actually 5 of us gathered at the gate talking all saw it. A week or so later about a mile down the road two neighbors got into an argument about the color of the cat that crossed the road between them. Sun was setting the one headed East said typical mt lion color while the one headed west said no it was black and they argued I do not know how long when the cat sighting would be brought up.

Never really hunted where I would expect to see a Jaguarundi but have hunted seen mt lions in Mississippi (now the state says Florida Panther, back then they said those do not exist in that state). Another Southwest of Rock Springs and one was killed on the ranch by the Government trapper shortly after season. I heard one during bow season in Eastland County, one of the land owner said a goat was missing found it across a cattle panel fence on the next place over half eaten and covered up and the tracks in mud at the tank. While hunting elk in Montana saw several mt lions.


lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true
Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Documented sighting statistics are worthless.


With respect to actual numbers of anything, yes.

Necessary nonetheless....as TP&W will 'try' to verify sightings and come up with some kind of number to report.

They (TP&W) know that some of the other reported sightings are probably true. But they also know when it comes to CAT sightings, people come out of the woodwork with claims to having seen one (Mountain Lion, Black Panther, Jaguarundi).

Hell...I could go tomorrow to the barbershop, bring up the subject and have no less than 10 people claim to have seen a Black Panther or know someone who has. So.....TP&W rightfully approach reports with some amount of skepticism.



I saw a typical Mt Lion on what is now my place in Mississippi years ago actually 5 of us gathered at the gate talking all saw it. A week or so later about a mile down the road two neighbors got into an argument about the color of the cat that crossed the road between them. Sun was setting the one headed East said typical mt lion color while the one headed west said no it was black and they argued I do not know how long when the cat sighting would be brought up.

Never really hunted where I would expect to see a Jaguarundi but have hunted seen mt lions in Mississippi (now the state says Florida Panther, back then they said those do not exist in that state). Another Southwest of Rock Springs and one was killed on the ranch by the Government trapper shortly after season. I heard one during bow season in Eastland County, one of the land owner said a goat was missing found it across a cattle panel fence on the next place over half eaten and covered up and the tracks in mud at the tank. While hunting elk in Montana saw several mt lions.



I've never been fortunate enough to have seen one while hunting, despite having hunted in places where they do exist.

I am envious of your experiences. I certainly understand they can be 'trouble' in some environments. At the same time a regal member of the ecosystem and North America's only 'Big' Cat. I wish more folks could see them as something other than just a Predator/Varmint to be killed upon sight.


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Re: Have You Ever Seen One While Out Hunting? [Re: Paul 1167] #9153590 12/14/24 06:33 PM
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I do think that they are to be respected for how secretive they are, if for nothing else. Hell, an African lion can't move through territory that stealthy.


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Re: Have You Ever Seen One While Out Hunting? [Re: onlysmith&wesson] #9153626 12/14/24 08:16 PM
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OSW, 82 yoa and spent a lot of time outdoors. Never seen one except for a dead one on the road.


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