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Bought a non Tikka
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11/30/24 12:01 PM
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onlysmith&wesson
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I retired my CTR, second year in a row I didn't kill my buck with it opting for the lighter, easier to handle Tikka RoughTek in 7mm Rem Mag. I'll always have 2 .308's in my line up so the search was on. Enter a hunting partner with a Bergara that I really liked the feel, weight and handling characteristics of. I also noticed he center punched the dot on the zero check camp target.
Scheels is close and has a great selection of Bergara's . I bought the Wilderness Ridge. 22" barrel, cerakoted barrel and action, hinged floor plate, nice camo pattern on a stock with a grippy texture, 2.5 lb trigger I may not adjust for $850.00 It also came with a muzzle brake I took off and replaced with the supplied thread protector.
I always have my ears up on what other hunters say about accuracy and have never heard anything negative on Bergara. We'll see.
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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11/30/24 12:06 PM
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I always have my ears up on what other hunters say about accuracy and have never heard anything negative on Bergara. We'll see.
Same here.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/01/24 02:32 PM
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Who has one? I have a few questions. Thanks.
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/01/24 03:03 PM
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I have owned a Bergara B-14 HMR in 308 for about two years now, and have shot out to 325 yrds consistently at the range I go to. I have never had any issues with my rifle; it's been a dream to shoot every time I bring it out. If I can, I'd be happy to answer questions.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/01/24 03:35 PM
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I have a Begara in .308. It’s a very well made gun.
However, the first load I tried ( Fiocchi SST 150 grain ) thru bullets all over the paper. Thr load I got next was 165 grain hornady CTX outfitter and they will shoot about a 2” group.
Just bought some 165 grain core lokts and are gonna give them a go.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
[Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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12/01/24 03:47 PM
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is yours the one with the adjustable cheekpiece and a more vertical grip? These guns are shooters for sure.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/01/24 03:56 PM
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is yours the one with the adjustable cheekpiece and a more vertical grip? These guns are shooters for sure. No, I have the Ridge West River.
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/01/24 04:00 PM
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I have a Begara in .308. It’s a very well made gun.
However, the first load I tried ( Fiocchi SST 150 grain ) thru bullets all over the paper. Thr load I got next was 165 grain hornady CTX outfitter and they will shoot about a 2” group.
Just bought some 165 grain core lokts and are gonna give them a go. 2" is troublesome. Definitely not what I'm used to with Tikka. I'm getting some ammo recommendations. I'll of course start with what I have been using with great results for the last 7 years, Hornady Superformance, SST, 165 gr. Thanks for the reply.
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/01/24 04:22 PM
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I would try Federal Fusions or the newer Tipped Federal Fusions. Federal has always shot well for me in various 308s before I started reloading.
If the Bergara won’t shoot, just bring the CTR out of retirement.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/01/24 04:22 PM
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SammyD308
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Bergara also has a list of recommended ammo, I've got the link below:
https://www.bergara.online/us/accuracy-testing/?_gl=1*11suwfh*_up*MQ..*_ga*OTA3MTgyODQxLjE3MzMwNjcxNzg.*_ga_ABCDEFG*MTczMzA2NzE3Ny4xLjAuMTczMzA2NzE3Ny4wLjAuMA..*_ga_H7XCS306WN*MTczMzA2NzE3Ny4xLjAuMTczMzA2NzE3Ny4wLjAuMA..
I have had best results (for .308) with Federal Fusion and Federal premium gold medal match, with165gr and 168gr respectively.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/01/24 04:33 PM
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I’m gonna try a few more brands.
Only rifle I’ve seen this finicky was my wife’s weatherby. Would throw Nosler copper bullets all over the board. Puts accubonds into tiny clover leafs
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/01/24 04:38 PM
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I have a ridge in 6.5 and 308. Both are shooters and like the Barnes TTSX. Haven’t had to do anything to them, and honestly with how they shoot, I don’t plan to.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/01/24 04:54 PM
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I have a Begara in .308. It’s a very well made gun.
However, the first load I tried ( Fiocchi SST 150 grain ) thru bullets all over the paper. Thr load I got next was 165 grain hornady CTX outfitter and they will shoot about a 2” group.
Just bought some 165 grain core lokts and are gonna give them a go. My premier in 300 prc has also produced less than stellar results with numerous loads. I’m debating reaching out to factory support.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/01/24 05:00 PM
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I don’t shoot factory ammo but if I did I would start with Hornady Precision Hunter. Only Bergara I’ve shot was a Crest in 7 PRC and it shot that ammo sub MOA.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/01/24 07:07 PM
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I think I’ve tried five kinds of factory ammo, and even swapped scopes. The rifle is a problem child. We’ll see what we see. I’ve got a Horizon .300 WM with no such difficulties.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/01/24 07:29 PM
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I have a Begara in .308. It’s a very well made gun.
However, the first load I tried ( Fiocchi SST 150 grain ) thru bullets all over the paper. Thr load I got next was 165 grain hornady CTX outfitter and they will shoot about a 2” group.
Just bought some 165 grain core lokts and are gonna give them a go. My premier in 300 prc has also produced less than stellar results with numerous loads. I’m debating reaching out to factory support. I’ll try two more loads before I send it off
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/01/24 08:23 PM
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When I see reports that these rifles won’t shoot, I get fairly skeptical after many lessons learned on an ultralight rifle..
A couple of questions to ask yourselves as you go down the path: Realisticallu what accuracy are you capable of and what’s your goal for the rig? What is your rest setup? Start with a truly clean bore free of all copper? Was rifle balanced in the rest setup so recoil is directed correctly? What external pressures did you place on the gun with your hands and face? Were these pressures consistent? How even and consistent is trigger press? Did you flinch through trigger pull or keep eyes on target as rifle recoiled? What was your breathing pattern like?
OP - I’m shooting the 130gr Barnes VORTX with one ragged hole results. They’re 15% off right now on Midway.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/01/24 08:27 PM
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When I see reports that these rifles won’t shoot, I get fairly skeptical after many lessons learned on an ultralight rifle..
A couple of questions to ask yourselves as you go down the path: Realisticallu what accuracy are you capable of and what’s your goal for the rig? What is your rest setup? Start with a truly clean bore free of all copper? Was rifle balanced in the rest setup so recoil is directed correctly? What external pressures did you place on the gun with your hands and face? Were these pressures consistent? How even and consistent is trigger press? Did you flinch through trigger pull or keep eyes on target as rifle recoiled? What was your breathing pattern like?
OP - I’m shooting the 130gr Barnes VORTX with one ragged hole results. They’re 15% off right now on Midway. Spot on. Thanks.
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/01/24 09:08 PM
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When I see reports that these rifles won’t shoot, I get fairly skeptical after many lessons learned on an ultralight rifle..
A couple of questions to ask yourselves as you go down the path: Realisticallu what accuracy are you capable of and what’s your goal for the rig? What is your rest setup? Start with a truly clean bore free of all copper? Was rifle balanced in the rest setup so recoil is directed correctly? What external pressures did you place on the gun with your hands and face? Were these pressures consistent? How even and consistent is trigger press? Did you flinch through trigger pull or keep eyes on target as rifle recoiled? What was your breathing pattern like?
OP - I’m shooting the 130gr Barnes VORTX with one ragged hole results. They’re 15% off right now on Midway. Spot on. Thanks. I’m fairly certain TxTrophy 85 and syncerus know how to shoot.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/01/24 09:35 PM
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When I see reports that these rifles won’t shoot, I get fairly skeptical after many lessons learned on an ultralight rifle..
A couple of questions to ask yourselves as you go down the path: Realisticallu what accuracy are you capable of and what’s your goal for the rig? What is your rest setup? Start with a truly clean bore free of all copper? Was rifle balanced in the rest setup so recoil is directed correctly? What external pressures did you place on the gun with your hands and face? Were these pressures consistent? How even and consistent is trigger press? Did you flinch through trigger pull or keep eyes on target as rifle recoiled? What was your breathing pattern like?
OP - I’m shooting the 130gr Barnes VORTX with one ragged hole results. They’re 15% off right now on Midway. Spot on. Thanks. I’m fairly certain TxTrophy 85 and syncerus know how to shoot. I wouldn’t know if they can or cannot and wasn’t implying either way. I appreciate their feedback. Augustus is providing a check list to me should I have issues.
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/01/24 10:02 PM
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Following this thread for results as I'm a huge Bergara fan.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/01/24 11:07 PM
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My guess is it will shoot just fine. Most 308s are not picky on ammo. Dare I say “inherently accurate?” Look forward to seeing you post some good groups.
I have a Bergara BXR. It’s a 10/22 clone and I love it. Shoots great.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/02/24 01:39 AM
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When I see reports that these rifles won’t shoot, I get fairly skeptical after many lessons learned on an ultralight rifle..
A couple of questions to ask yourselves as you go down the path: Realisticallu what accuracy are you capable of and what’s your goal for the rig? What is your rest setup? Start with a truly clean bore free of all copper? Was rifle balanced in the rest setup so recoil is directed correctly? What external pressures did you place on the gun with your hands and face? Were these pressures consistent? How even and consistent is trigger press? Did you flinch through trigger pull or keep eyes on target as rifle recoiled? What was your breathing pattern like?
OP - I’m shooting the 130gr Barnes VORTX with one ragged hole results. They’re 15% off right now on Midway. 100% you have to look at all factors when making a determination on a rifle. I’m a fair shot off a bench. Better than average but not “great”. I’ll have a flier about every 4th shot or so that is 100% caused by me. But this is 100% the bullet and the gun not getting along. I’m a big fan of the rifle though. Am gonna buy one in a left handed action for my truck gun. They are solid little rigs
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/02/24 02:26 AM
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When I see reports that these rifles won’t shoot, I get fairly skeptical after many lessons learned on an ultralight rifle..
A couple of questions to ask yourselves as you go down the path: Realisticallu what accuracy are you capable of and what’s your goal for the rig? What is your rest setup? Start with a truly clean bore free of all copper? Was rifle balanced in the rest setup so recoil is directed correctly? What external pressures did you place on the gun with your hands and face? Were these pressures consistent? How even and consistent is trigger press? Did you flinch through trigger pull or keep eyes on target as rifle recoiled? What was your breathing pattern like?
OP - I’m shooting the 130gr Barnes VORTX with one ragged hole results. They’re 15% off right now on Midway. 100% you have to look at all factors when making a determination on a rifle. I’m a fair shot off a bench. Better than average but not “great”. I’ll have a flier about every 4th shot or so that is 100% caused by me. But this is 100% the bullet and the gun not getting along. I’m a big fan of the rifle though. Am gonna buy one in a left handed action for my truck gun. They are solid little rigs That’s really weird it just won’t shoot. Is the bedding okay or stock pressing on barrel somewhere after the first shot or two?
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/02/24 03:14 AM
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When I see reports that these rifles won’t shoot, I get fairly skeptical after many lessons learned on an ultralight rifle..
A couple of questions to ask yourselves as you go down the path: Realisticallu what accuracy are you capable of and what’s your goal for the rig? What is your rest setup? Start with a truly clean bore free of all copper? Was rifle balanced in the rest setup so recoil is directed correctly? What external pressures did you place on the gun with your hands and face? Were these pressures consistent? How even and consistent is trigger press? Did you flinch through trigger pull or keep eyes on target as rifle recoiled? What was your breathing pattern like?
OP - I’m shooting the 130gr Barnes VORTX with one ragged hole results. They’re 15% off right now on Midway. 100% you have to look at all factors when making a determination on a rifle. I’m a fair shot off a bench. Better than average but not “great”. I’ll have a flier about every 4th shot or so that is 100% caused by me. But this is 100% the bullet and the gun not getting along. I’m a big fan of the rifle though. Am gonna buy one in a left handed action for my truck gun. They are solid little rigs That’s really weird it just won’t shoot. Is the bedding okay or stock pressing on barrel somewhere after the first shot or two? 4th shot flier is due to barrel heat. I'm 100% sure about that. The reason for heavy contour barrels is to tolerate excessive shot strings. Thin barreled hunting rifles are for being light weight, to carry a whole lot, and shoot one, maybe two shots. Asking a hunting rifle barrel contour to tolerate more than 3 consecutive shots is a fool's errand.
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