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 Re: Knife sharpener
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12/12/24 03:12 AM
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10000 grit in the one pic = crazy!
I typically finish with a 1200 grit stone and works for what i do.
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That 10K is the bomb. Have you ever had to brunoise three or four dozen over ripened tomato’s?
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Re: Knife sharpener
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12/12/24 03:41 PM
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kind of a big deal
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Sorry, gotta disagree with J.G. I sharpen some pretty high dollar knives regularly and these are my best recomdations. Nothing that is pull through. Nothing electric. These will both wear out the knife prematurely and still not get you the edge your looking for For a high Rockwell steel (63 HRC+) i would use Naniwa Diamond stones. (Really Expensive But Worth It) ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/12/full-11672-438810-img_1148.jpeg) For good steel below that I would use Naniwa Pro/Chosera Stones. (Kind Of Expensive But Very Easy To Get Great Results) ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/12/full-11672-438811-img_1149.jpeg) For a little bit more budget friendly option i would recommend the Shapton Glass stones. (Get The 500, 1000 & 4000) ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/12/full-11672-438812-img_1150.jpeg) For some down and dirty get it done and still be really sharp you could look at the Atoma Diamond plates in 400, 600 and 1200 grit. (Hard to Find But Super Fast To Use) ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/12/full-11672-438814-img_1151.jpeg) Have a good leather strop to finish your knife with and you’ll be set. You want to sharpen a knife for me?
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Re: Knife sharpener
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12/12/24 07:52 PM
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bjankowski
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63 HRC? That's ridiculous, 58 -60 pretty much the standard. 62 or higher the blade is too brittle and dang near impossible to sharpen. Some knife makers may say they are getting 63 but I really doubt it. 63 HRC is almost at Martisite before tempering ..
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Re: Knife sharpener
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12/13/24 01:20 AM
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63 HRC? That's ridiculous, 58 -60 pretty much the standard. 62 or higher the blade is too brittle and dang near impossible to sharpen. Some knife makers may say they are getting 63 but I really doubt it. 63 HRC is almost at Martisite before tempering .. You are probably thinking pocket knives. I have chef knives that are 68HRC. Check out a Sukenari Hairline HAP40 gyuto. A 62 HRC is pretty much at the lower end for the knives I own. That’s why I spent so much money on those Naniwa diamond stones.
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Re: Knife sharpener
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12/13/24 01:32 PM
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J.G.
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Disagree if you like. You're still eyeballing the angle. That about the same as loading ammo with a powder scoop versus weighing the powder.
I can go to 2000 grit. I stop sharpening at 600 grit. The micro serrations on the blade make it cut better.
If I start making straight razors, I will take them to 2000 grit.
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Re: Knife sharpener
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12/13/24 01:33 PM
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J.G.
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63 HRC? That's ridiculous, 58 -60 pretty much the standard. 62 or higher the blade is too brittle and dang near impossible to sharpen. Some knife makers may say they are getting 63 but I really doubt it. 63 HRC is almost at Martisite before tempering .. You are probably thinking pocket knives. I have chef knives that are 68HRC. Check out a Sukenari Hairline HAP40 gyuto. A 62 HRC is pretty much at the lower end for the knives I own. That’s why I spent so much money on those Naniwa diamond stones. And now your arguing with one of the best knife makers in the United States. This is rich!
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Re: Knife sharpener
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12/13/24 06:07 PM
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bjankowski
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63 HRC? That's ridiculous, 58 -60 pretty much the standard. 62 or higher the blade is too brittle and dang near impossible to sharpen. Some knife makers may say they are getting 63 but I really doubt it. 63 HRC is almost at Martisite before tempering .. You are probably thinking pocket knives. I have chef knives that are 68HRC. Check out a Sukenari Hairline HAP40 gyuto. A 62 HRC is pretty much at the lower end for the knives I own. That’s why I spent so much money on those Naniwa diamond stones. I wasn't speaking about chef knives, most of us aren't experienced chefs and can't afford a knife with a 68 hrc Higher HRC knives chip more easily so go a touch lower on the scale (55-58) if you’re less skilled. If you need blade flexibility, buy a knife with a slightly lower HRC (around 56). It’s possible to get knives as high as 68 HRC but they’re super expensive and are only worth the extra money if you’re an experienced chef. You dang sure don't want to chop through bone with one that hard. 
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Re: Knife sharpener
[Re: J.G.]
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12/13/24 07:06 PM
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63 HRC? That's ridiculous, 58 -60 pretty much the standard. 62 or higher the blade is too brittle and dang near impossible to sharpen. Some knife makers may say they are getting 63 but I really doubt it. 63 HRC is almost at Martisite before tempering .. You are probably thinking pocket knives. I have chef knives that are 68HRC. Check out a Sukenari Hairline HAP40 gyuto. A 62 HRC is pretty much at the lower end for the knives I own. That’s why I spent so much money on those Naniwa diamond stones. And now your arguing with one of the best knife makers in the United States. This is rich! May be worse than the one educating people who have been trapping for 40 years about mountain lions 
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Re: Knife sharpener
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12/13/24 08:49 PM
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J.G.
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Re: Knife sharpener
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12/17/24 12:24 AM
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The funny part about this is that the guy with the 60 some odd Rockwell knives was right and all the people "educating" him was wrong 🤣🤣
Gotta love the interwebs lol
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Re: Knife sharpener
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12/17/24 03:24 PM
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bjankowski
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We are comparing a razor blade to a chopper. Every knife has a specific function. To take in consideration is the steel, the grind and the secondary bevel.
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Re: Knife sharpener
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12/17/24 03:40 PM
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unclebubba
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Sorry, gotta disagree with J.G.
I sharpen some pretty high dollar knives regularly and these are my best recomdations.
Nothing that is pull through. Nothing electric. These will both wear out the knife prematurely and still not get you the edge your looking for
Neither the wicked Edge (that JG uses) or the Lansky (that I use) are electric or pull through. They are both stones that are mechanically held at a specific angle. I can get a damn good edge with just stones (as I am sure Jason can do too), but with a system that holds the perfect angle, I can get a perfect edge. The lansky and wicked edge use the exact same concept as your bench stones, just with more precision.
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