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Re: Wind drift at 100
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Parts of it are exact. We are operating in a very non perfect changing world.
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Re: Wind drift at 100
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Im still waiting to know what chart to copy and tape to my stock..... 5.5" difference at 400 is enough to miss the vitals and thats just at 10 mph. Of course, I wont shoot near that far, but this is a learning experience and right now what Ive learned is all charts cant be trusted. If a sniper was to head shoot a bad guy he better pick the right chart or he misses and maybe hits the good guy. Im still curious if "normal" environmental differences can account for that much difference(5.5" at 400).
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Re: Wind drift at 100
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Im still waiting to know what chart to copy and tape to my stock..... 5.5" difference at 400 is enough to miss the vitals and thats just at 10 mph. Of course, I wont shoot near that far, but this is a learning experience and right now what Ive learned is all charts cant be trusted. If a sniper was to head shoot a bad guy he better pick the right chart or he misses and maybe hits the good guy. Im still curious if "normal" environmental differences can account for that much difference(5.5" at 400). Which two charts are you looking at? Chad did mention earlier in this post that he had input the wrong ballistic coefficient. That would cause the skewed results.
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Re: Wind drift at 100
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Im still waiting to know what chart to copy and tape to my stock..... 5.5" difference at 400 is enough to miss the vitals and thats just at 10 mph. Of course, I wont shoot near that far, but this is a learning experience and right now what Ive learned is all charts cant be trusted. If a sniper was to head shoot a bad guy he better pick the right chart or he misses and maybe hits the good guy. Im still curious if "normal" environmental differences can account for that much difference(5.5" at 400). Which two charts are you looking at? Chad did mention earlier in this post that he had input the wrong ballistic coefficient. That would cause the skewed results. Chads updated one and the one Bobo posted. They appear to have exact same input info except possibly slight difference in environmental.
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Re: Wind drift at 100
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BOBO the Clown
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Im still waiting to know what chart to copy and tape to my stock..... 5.5" difference at 400 is enough to miss the vitals and thats just at 10 mph. Of course, I wont shoot near that far, but this is a learning experience and right now what Ive learned is all charts cant be trusted. If a sniper was to head shoot a bad guy he better pick the right chart or he misses and maybe hits the good guy. Im still curious if "normal" environmental differences can account for that much difference(5.5" at 400). Which two charts are you looking at? Chad did mention earlier in this post that he had input the wrong ballistic coefficient. That would cause the skewed results. Chads updated one and the one Bobo posted. They appear to have exact same input info except possibly slight difference in environmental. I been tied up with work. Give me a little time and I will set down and take my time and send you one to 100-400. You want a 2” high zero at 100 correct?
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Re: Wind drift at 100
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I come up with 13.6" of wind drift at 400 yards with a 10mph wind. Pretty close to Chad's numbers. All up and down the chart, my numbers are really close to Chad's. I looked at Bobo's numbers, and I can't figure out where the variable is that is making his calculations different.
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Re: Wind drift at 100
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Im still waiting to know what chart to copy and tape to my stock..... 5.5" difference at 400 is enough to miss the vitals and thats just at 10 mph. Of course, I wont shoot near that far, but this is a learning experience and right now what Ive learned is all charts cant be trusted. If a sniper was to head shoot a bad guy he better pick the right chart or he misses and maybe hits the good guy. Im still curious if "normal" environmental differences can account for that much difference(5.5" at 400). Which two charts are you looking at? Chad did mention earlier in this post that he had input the wrong ballistic coefficient. That would cause the skewed results. Chads updated one and the one Bobo posted. They appear to have exact same input info except possibly slight difference in environmental. I been tied up with work. Give me a little time and I will set down and take my time and send you one to 100-400. You want a 2” high zero at 100 correct? Correct. Thanks Bobo.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Wind drift at 100
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Thanks to all. Im out the door to the lease for 3 weeks so I’m not gonna worry too much more about this thread but feel free to keep it going. I’ll just leave y’all with my last target. The bottom 3 with lower bullseye was for fouling after cleaning. The upper 5 pretty much show the approximate 1/2” wind drift that most thought. Of course, with my poor shooting, not being positive where it shot without wind, and the small sample size, that group means about nothing to prove wind drift but good to know the charts confirm it.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Wind drift at 100
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Free, DOPE is an acronym for “data on previous engagements”. In layman’s terms that means real time notes taken at the range are assimilated for reliable data. That trumps any “programs” that may or may not be exact with your setup. There is no substitute for range time for the shooters that can get down to it.
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Re: Wind drift at 100
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Smokey, always appreciate your comments. I DO understand what dope means but I do appreciate you making sure and spelling it out for others as well. I have shot this same rifle(exclusively) for 50 years and this same reload recipe for 30 years, but I don’t shoot a lot. I have shot enough to know “pretty close” what this setup will do out to 300. What I have not done, and reason for this thread, is shoot for research(dope) in the wind. I rarely shoot much over 200 so I know enough about wind at that distance to get by. What got the thread a little deeper into the charts than intended was there was a big difference in some of the info. Alls good.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Wind drift at 100
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This is a dope thread. Dope: slang for cool Dope: slag for idiot dope: acronym for data on previous engagement dope: gotta be smoking some to get the different numbers in this thread
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Re: Wind drift at 100
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I've been at the range all day. I ran 2 different programs, and came up with .8" at 100 yards for 10 mph full value wind drift with the data you posted. If the wind was at your 4 to 6 o'clock, it will be less than this, depending on the wind angle. My answer is find multiple ballistic programs and run the data through them and see what numbers you get. I've run it 3 times now and have the same data.
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Re: Wind drift at 100
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At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Wind drift at 100
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3 weeks…. Man I wouldn’t know what to do with three weeks to hunt Good luck
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Re: Wind drift at 100
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BOBO the Clown
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I've been at the range all day. I ran 2 different programs, and came up with .8" at 100 yards for 10 mph full value wind drift with the data you posted. If the wind was at your 4 to 6 o'clock, it will be less than this, depending on the wind angle. My answer is find multiple ballistic programs and run the data through them and see what numbers you get. I've run it 3 times now and have the same data. Shooter has the 165 partition at 0.3670 in my library, not .410 like mfg
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Re: Wind drift at 100
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I've been at the range all day. I ran 2 different programs, and came up with .8" at 100 yards for 10 mph full value wind drift with the data you posted. If the wind was at your 4 to 6 o'clock, it will be less than this, depending on the wind angle. My answer is find multiple ballistic programs and run the data through them and see what numbers you get. I've run it 3 times now and have the same data. Shooter has the 165 partition at 0.3670 in my library, not .410 like mfg I would have nothing to offer on that but would be curious to know more. I’m a sponge for info.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Wind drift at 100
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Some manufacturers have a habit of embellishing a bit on ballistic coefficient numbers.
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Re: Wind drift at 100
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Some manufacturers have a habit of embellishing a bit on ballistic coefficient numbers. This is the kind of stuff I need to know about.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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