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Re: Dallas weed laws [Re: topwater13] #9134637 11/07/24 05:49 PM
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Okay, so there's one story I will share. I know a young man, 19 years old, who acquired a couple of THC vapes. He got pulled over for a minor traffic violation, and, as standard procedure goes, the officer asked him if he had anything illegal. The young man admitted to the THC vapes, but tried to minimize the impact by saying he was just bringing them to a friend.

BOOM!

First degree felony charge of Manufacture / Delivery of a Controlled Substance. 5-99 years or life in prison. Same as a Murder, Aggravated Sexual Assault, etc.

And this is our taxes at work, folks.

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Originally Posted by 308PC
I marvel at the fear some people have about legalizing marijuana. It's legal in half the country right now, and those states didn't suddenly fall into anarchy, yet, here in Texas, about half of the court dockets are filled with marijuana / THC cases.

It's pointless and stupid, and it's probably one of the single, largest waste of taxpayer's money and resources. I could share story-after-story of the waste and futility of it all, but THAT would be a waste of MY time.

EDIT: I've never been a user of the stuff, and I don't care for the smell, either, but I've recently tried a couple of gummies while traveling through other states.....and, you know what? It really wasn't that big of a deal. It actually made me feel relaxed more than anything else. In Texas, those gummies would've been a felony with prison time at stake.


Well thought out and said. I wish gummy's were available to my son. I would much rather he use that than drugs from big pharma.


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Originally Posted by Smokey Bear
What good would come out of making recreational use legal in Texas? I understand and support the benefit of medical use under the supervision of a physician.


What good?

Well, for starters, the end of pointless arrests, prosecution, and incarceration of non-violent offenders who have done nothing worse to society than someone who drinks alcohol.

Do you have any idea how much $$$ is spent to keep it illegal, between the cops, court clerks, judges, prosecutors, jail staff, etc.? I don't know the specific number, but I can assure you that we could eliminate about half of the criminal courts. I my county, I recently looked up the dockets for the criminal courts, and about 40% of the cases were marijuana / THC cases. Yet the sheriff is constantly asking for more money because the jail is overcrowded, and the DA's office is constantly asking for more money to handle all of the cases.

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Originally Posted by 308PC
Here in Texas, about half of the court dockets are filled with marijuana / THC cases.


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Here in Texas, about half of the court dockets are filled with marijuana / THC cases.


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Not BS in my county. I've seen the dockets and counted the numbers, more than a few times.

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Originally Posted by 308PC
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What good would come out of making recreational use legal in Texas? I understand and support the benefit of medical use under the supervision of a physician.


What good?

Well, for starters, the end of pointless arrests, prosecution, and incarceration of non-violent offenders who have done nothing worse to society than someone who drinks alcohol.

Do you have any idea how much $$$ is spent to keep it illegal, between the cops, court clerks, judges, prosecutors, jail staff, etc.? I don't know the specific number, but I can assure you that we could eliminate about half of the criminal courts. I my county, I recently looked up the dockets for the criminal courts, and about 40% of the cases were marijuana / THC cases. Yet the sheriff is constantly asking for more money because the jail is overcrowded, and the DA's office is constantly asking for more money to handle all of the cases.

So, we should legalize it just because there’s so many breaking existing laws against it? I guess we should just give amnesty to all the illegals also because there’s too many to prosecute or remove.



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Re: Dallas weed laws [Re: topwater13] #9134661 11/07/24 06:07 PM
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It doesn't surprise me that this got passed in Dallas, but it looks like Bastrop and Lockhart went the same way. That does surprise me. It has been this way here in Austin for a while now. I don't smell it all the time, but often enough. And, it is usually in traffic too. No wonder so many people here drive like s**t.

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I have neither questions nor answers. I once spent most of my paycheck on cigs and beer. Then, about 10 or so years ago, I quit both. I still have some ancient Budweiser in the fridge but doubt that I’ll ever mess with it.

Re MJ, if it’s illegal, nuff said.


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Re: Dallas weed laws [Re: 308PC] #9134665 11/07/24 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 308PC
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What good would come out of making recreational use legal in Texas? I understand and support the benefit of medical use under the supervision of a physician.


What good?

Well, for starters, the end of pointless arrests, prosecution, and incarceration of non-violent offenders who have done nothing worse to society than someone who drinks alcohol.

Do you have any idea how much $$$ is spent to keep it illegal, between the cops, court clerks, judges, prosecutors, jail staff, etc.? I don't know the specific number, but I can assure you that we could eliminate about half of the criminal courts. I my county, I recently looked up the dockets for the criminal courts, and about 40% of the cases were marijuana / THC cases. Yet the sheriff is constantly asking for more money because the jail is overcrowded, and the DA's office is constantly asking for more money to handle all of the cases.


Thank goodness the majority of Texas voters are opposed to street drugs. Why on earth would anyone in their right mind risk facing those penalties to be an illegal user? What is the benefit that makes it a worthwhile activity?


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Originally Posted by 308PC
Okay, so there's one story I will share. I know a young man, 19 years old, who acquired a couple of THC vapes. He got pulled over for a minor traffic violation, and, as standard procedure goes, the officer asked him if he had anything illegal. The young man admitted to the THC vapes, but tried to minimize the impact by saying he was just bringing them to a friend.

BOOM!

First degree felony charge of Manufacture / Delivery of a Controlled Substance. 5-99 years or life in prison. Same as a Murder, Aggravated Sexual Assault, etc.

And this is our taxes at work, folks.


So he knowingly broke the law, lied about it to the cop 'it ain't mine', and is going to get punished? Good on the law. Maybe instead of 'it's just weed' he should have thought 'holy hell, it's weed' and left it the hell alone. He's either that stupid and getting what he deserves or a POS. Either way he's not getting 99 years, but keep using that to boost your argument. trout


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Originally Posted by 308PC
Okay, so there's one story I will share. I know a young man, 19 years old, who acquired a couple of THC vapes. He got pulled over for a minor traffic violation, and, as standard procedure goes, the officer asked him if he had anything illegal. The young man admitted to the THC vapes, but tried to minimize the impact by saying he was just bringing them to a friend.

BOOM!

First degree felony charge of Manufacture / Delivery of a Controlled Substance. 5-99 years or life in prison. Same as a Murder, Aggravated Sexual Assault, etc.

And this is our taxes at work, folks.


So he knowingly broke the law, lied about it to the cop 'it ain't mine', and is going to get punished? Good on the law. Maybe instead of 'it's just weed' he should have thought 'holy hell, it's weed' and left it the hell alone. He's either that stupid and getting what he deserves or a POS. Either way he's not getting 99 years, but keep using that to boost your argument. trout


Exactly. Is his last name Griner?


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My argument is simply based on the waste of taxpayer's resources to keep fighting a "crime" that really doesn't seem worthwhile. Just like the ridiculous Blue Laws, some of which still exist in this state. That's all. If you're okay with your tax dollars footing the bill for this issue, that's cool. I'm not okay with that, but, hey, we can agree to disagree.

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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
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Here in Texas, about half of the court dockets are filled with marijuana / THC cases.


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In the counties where I worked over the years, I'm betting DWI and Meth arrests took up most of the docket, along with family violence cases...I only testified in a handful of Marijuana cases in my entire career. Now back forty years ago, yes.



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There have been 18 misdemeanor Possession of Marijuana cases filed in my county since November 1st. Not even a full week of data since today is the 7th.

Each of these cases probably cost the taxpayer's a minimum of $1,000-$2,000 to pursue (if you take into account the arresting officer's time, patrol car fuel, a jail deputy's time, the county clerk's time, the intake person at the DA's office time, the prosecutor's time, the bailiff's time, the judge's time....and the list goes on).

Extrapolate that out for a year and you're talking about $1 million - $2 million per year. All of this for a "crime" that is the equivalent of possessing a six pack or twelve pack of beer.

I'd rather see that money, some of which came from me, go to....well, just about anything else....parks, libraries, whatever.

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Here in Texas, about half of the court dockets are filled with marijuana / THC cases.


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In the counties where I worked over the years, I'm betting DWI and Meth arrests took up most of the docket, along with family violence cases...I only testified in a handful of Marijuana cases in my entire career. Now back forty years ago, yes.

So what is the difference between now and 40 years ago? People are not smoking less. Cops don’t care to mess with it as much? That is all the more reason to legalize it.

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Much of this has to do with money.

Dallas police make roughly 2000 marijuana arrests a year, most of those have other charges. They send the weed to get tested, costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. Then the DA never prosecutes and drops the weed charge.

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Originally Posted by Roll-Tide
Much of this has to do with money.

Dallas police make roughly 2000 marijuana arrests a year, most of those have other charges. They send the weed to get tested, costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. Then the DA never prosecutes and drops the weed charge.

If it is about money it should certainly be legalized. It’s gonna happen, not sure why so many want to slow down the inevitable. I don’t know why people are against legalizing it, seems like people think it is morally wrong and want to impose their values on others.

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Here in Texas, about half of the court dockets are filled with marijuana / THC cases.


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In the counties where I worked over the years, I'm betting DWI and Meth arrests took up most of the docket, along with family violence cases...I only testified in a handful of Marijuana cases in my entire career. Now back forty years ago, yes.

So what is the difference between now and 40 years ago? People are not smoking less. Cops don’t care to mess with it as much? That is all the more reason to legalize it.




Weed was not accepted at all 40 years ago, opinions change as society changes, DWI, I am sorry to say was treated like just a way of life in Texas back then and wasn't prosecuted much, law enforcement officers just enforce the laws on the books and pursue mostly what they are directed to pursue.



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Originally Posted by Guy
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Much of this has to do with money.

Dallas police make roughly 2000 marijuana arrests a year, most of those have other charges. They send the weed to get tested, costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. Then the DA never prosecutes and drops the weed charge.

If it is about money it should certainly be legalized. It’s gonna happen, not sure why so many want to slow down the inevitable. I don’t know why people are against legalizing it, seems like people think it is morally wrong and want to impose their values on others.


It's somewhat difficult to catch a criminal because they killed someone, burglarized a home, robbed a store ect ect. It's easy to catch them with their weed because it stinks. Get in their car because of the weed and the other much more serious cases get made from the property or evidence that's located. That's one of a myriad of reasons not to legalize it. As for the topic of this thread that's about Dallas, look at the statewide election map. The place is a lost cause so I can't think of a better place to attract even more human hair balls from the rest of the state. I'm glad they passed it.

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Much of this has to do with money.

Dallas police make roughly 2000 marijuana arrests a year, most of those have other charges. They send the weed to get tested, costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. Then the DA never prosecutes and drops the weed charge.

If it is about money it should certainly be legalized. It’s gonna happen, not sure why so many want to slow down the inevitable. I don’t know why people are against legalizing it, seems like people think it is morally wrong and want to impose their values on others.


It's somewhat difficult to catch a criminal because they killed someone, burglarized a home, robbed a store ect ect. It's easy to catch them with their weed because it stinks. Get in their car because of the weed and the other much more serious cases get made from the property or evidence that's located. That's one of a myriad of reasons not to legalize it. As for the topic of this thread that's about Dallas, look at the statewide election map. The place is a lost cause so I can't think of a better place to attract even more human hair balls from the rest of the state. I'm glad they passed it.


So it’s a gateway drug… for cops to look for other [censored].


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If you’re not aware, the deck is stacked in the criminal’s favor. I took every legal advantage I could. I sent plenty of people home though who were just smokers. 4 ounces is not what any person would have who contributes anything positive to our society.

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