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Re: For Cowboy Fans Only [Re: Buzzsaw] #9105855 09/11/24 04:39 PM
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Y'all remember Quincey Carter? Thats all the Cowboys would get unless they come in last in the league.

THEN JJ would draft that AH's kid from CO.


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Originally Posted by Stub

No I would not have signed Dak to the richest contract in the NFL based on his playoff failures, I would have let him play this final year out.
If he plays great and takes us to the playoffs then continues to play great in the playoffs without his usual melt downs, then I would reward him with whatever the market is at that time, it cannot be much higher than what they gave him now.

On the flip side, if we go to the playoffs and Dak plays like Dak and crumbles under the pressure with a bad game, then I would try and sign him for what his true value would be at that time, which would be great backup QB money to which I know would never happen

Guy there comes a time when you just have to cut bait and move on from certain things.
You also bring up a great point on who can you sign that is better? Well nothing ventured nothing gained and we are certainly not gaining any super bowl rings with Dak!

Well as I have already said, JMO, there is not a right or wrong answer to sign him or not. If he plays the same or wins the SB, either way you don’t like the market price now, you surly won’t like it next year, because it will go way way up, and he may pick another team. Then you take $40m sal cap hit in dead money, you will suck for years and years until you find another QB, who knows how long it could take to land one better than Dak. If he sucks next year, you will be happy with the decision. If he plays the same, you will probably regret it and if goes all the way you will surly regret it.

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Let's put it this way...he was drafted in 2016...that's 7 full seasons. If he plays like his best season of the last 7...do you feel like he can get you to the super bowl? The answer is no...

You need to take your emotions out of this and stop making decisions like a female, use logic. He's not the QB to lead a franchise to the SB, period end of that discussion. If he won't lead, then you have to have a super badass defense and you need a QB that won't cost you games...he ain't that QB either. (think Dilfer). So...it's a bad signing/deal.

Good for haters tho...cuz they gonna suck for the next 4 banana


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Originally Posted by Judd
Let's put it this way...he was drafted in 2016...that's 7 full seasons. If he plays like his best season of the last 7...do you feel like he can get you to the super bowl? The answer is no...

You need to take your emotions out of this and stop making decisions like a female, use logic. He's not the QB to lead a franchise to the SB, period end of that discussion. If he won't lead, then you have to have a super badass defense and you need a QB that won't cost you games...he ain't that QB either. (think Dilfer). So...it's a bad signing/deal.

Good for haters tho...cuz they gonna suck for the next 4 banana

He's actually played 8 full seasons, he's into season 9 now.

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Let's put it this way...he was drafted in 2016...that's 7 full seasons. If he plays like his best season of the last 7...do you feel like he can get you to the super bowl? The answer is no...

You need to take your emotions out of this and stop making decisions like a female, use logic. He's not the QB to lead a franchise to the SB, period end of that discussion. If he won't lead, then you have to have a super badass defense and you need a QB that won't cost you games...he ain't that QB either. (think Dilfer). So...it's a bad signing/deal.

Good for haters tho...cuz they gonna suck for the next 4 banana

He's actually played 8 full seasons, he's into season 9 now.


Even better...you have one more [censored] season to pick from as an example rofl


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Not singing Dak isn’t going to help you find another QB that is better. Unless your thought process is don’t sign Dak, tank next season 2025, hope to get good draft pick in 2026, and hope that rookie works out, which is very low probability he will be better than Dak.

Man you guys are big dummys when it comes to football, especially Judd. SMH.

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I'm not the DA that says this team has a chance at winning or even going to the super bowl...okay rofl

It's a lot harder to find a QB when you have one...especially one you sign to big contracts. They would be MUCH better off tanking a season or two and getting a drafted first round QB than what Dak can do for this team.

But hey...I'm a football dummy who gets to see this team SUCK for another 4 years roflmao


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Looks at Mathew Stafford, 12 years in, 3 playoff apparencies and lost all 3. Then goes to LA in a trade and starts winning in the post season, and wins a SB. This is an example that making a deep run in the playoffs is not all about the QB, it is about the team, and not just the players but the coaching, culture, chemistry.... It's a complicated formula and not one dimensional.

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By signing Dak gives them the option to trade him. I would not mind seeing a trade like LA and Detroit, a change of scenery can be a good thing sometimes. It would be interesting to see how Dak would do with another team, a team with a head coach that has command of the locker room. Which I have been saying is the issue with Cowboys, not the QB. Heard on the radio one day a sports writer talk about the Jimmy days, he said when you were in the locker-room the players would be cutting up having fun, but when Jimmy walked in the room it went silent. That is what this team is missing, strong head coach leadership, Jerry undermines the HC leadership, that is the problem that has been haunting this team all these years, it is the missing ingredient.

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Originally Posted by DQ Kid
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Let's put it this way...he was drafted in 2016...that's 7 full seasons.

If he plays like his best season of the last 7...do you feel like he can get you to the super bowl? The answer is no...

You need to take your emotions out of this and stop making decisions like a female, use logic. He's not the QB to lead a franchise to the SB, period end of that discussion. If he won't lead, then you have to have a super badass defense and you need a QB that won't cost you games...he ain't that QB either. (think Dilfer). So...it's a bad signing/deal.

Good for haters tho...cuz they gonna suck for the next 4 banana

He's actually played 8 full seasons, he's into season 9 now.


Judd is right for the most part.

The Cowboys have been good enough on both sides of the ball to at least make it to the NFC Championship game if they had a QB that can perform under pressure in the big games, Dak is not that QB period!

Still a Cowboy fan, just no longer an avid fan. Will not go out of my way to watch them, if I have nothing else to do I will watch the game.


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Originally Posted by Guy
Looks at Mathew Stafford, 12 years in, 3 playoff apparencies and lost all 3. Then goes to LA in a trade and starts winning in the post season, and wins a SB. This is an example that making a deep run in the playoffs is not all about the QB, it is about the team, and not just the players but the coaching, culture, chemistry.... It's a complicated formula and not one dimensional.

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By signing Dak gives them the option to trade him. I would not mind seeing a trade like LA and Detroit, a change of scenery can be a good thing sometimes. It would be interesting to see how Dak would do with another team, a team with a head coach that has command of the locker room. Which I have been saying is the issue with Cowboys, not the QB. Heard on the radio one day a sports writer talk about the Jimmy days, he said when you were in the locker-room the players would be cutting up having fun, but when Jimmy walked in the room it went silent. That is what this team is missing, strong head coach leadership, Jerry undermines the HC leadership, that is the problem that has been haunting this team all these years, it is the missing ingredient.


Now that is clear-headed thinking. When did you take your blinders off? up


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Originally Posted by Grit
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Looks at Mathew Stafford, 12 years in, 3 playoff apparencies and lost all 3. Then goes to LA in a trade and starts winning in the post season, and wins a SB. This is an example that making a deep run in the playoffs is not all about the QB, it is about the team, and not just the players but the coaching, culture, chemistry.... It's a complicated formula and not one dimensional.

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By signing Dak gives them the option to trade him. I would not mind seeing a trade like LA and Detroit, a change of scenery can be a good thing sometimes. It would be interesting to see how Dak would do with another team, a team with a head coach that has command of the locker room. Which I have been saying is the issue with Cowboys, not the QB. Heard on the radio one day a sports writer talk about the Jimmy days, he said when you were in the locker-room the players would be cutting up having fun, but when Jimmy walked in the room it went silent. That is what this team is missing, strong head coach leadership, Jerry undermines the HC leadership, that is the problem that has been haunting this team all these years, it is the missing ingredient.


Now that is clear-headed thinking. When did you take your blinders off? up

I only been saying this a bajillion times, I’m glad it’s finally sinking it.

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Originally Posted by Guy
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Looks at Mathew Stafford, 12 years in, 3 playoff apparencies and lost all 3. Then goes to LA in a trade and starts winning in the post season, and wins a SB. This is an example that making a deep run in the playoffs is not all about the QB, it is about the team, and not just the players but the coaching, culture, chemistry.... It's a complicated formula and not one dimensional.

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By signing Dak gives them the option to trade him. I would not mind seeing a trade like LA and Detroit, a change of scenery can be a good thing sometimes. It would be interesting to see how Dak would do with another team, a team with a head coach that has command of the locker room. Which I have been saying is the issue with Cowboys, not the QB. Heard on the radio one day a sports writer talk about the Jimmy days, he said when you were in the locker-room the players would be cutting up having fun, but when Jimmy walked in the room it went silent. That is what this team is missing, strong head coach leadership, Jerry undermines the HC leadership, that is the problem that has been haunting this team all these years, it is the missing ingredient.


Now that is clear-headed thinking. When did you take your blinders off? up

I only been saying this a bajillion times, I’m glad it’s finally sinking it.


Whether you see it or not, you're in agreement with me on who runs the show. Or at least in this particular post you are. whistle


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I'm not the DA that says this team has a chance at winning or even going to the super bowl...okay rofl

Nothing is 100% in the NFL. So yeah, they do have a chance. 50% of teams in the playoffs one season don’t make it the next season. I have no idea how the Cowboys will do this season, they could suck or they could go all the way. That’s the NFL.

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You can rest assured they ain't going all the way. roflmao


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Originally Posted by Guy
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Looks at Mathew Stafford, 12 years in, 3 playoff apparencies and lost all 3. Then goes to LA in a trade and starts winning in the post season, and wins a SB. This is an example that making a deep run in the playoffs is not all about the QB, it is about the team, and not just the players but the coaching, culture, chemistry.... It's a complicated formula and not one dimensional.

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By signing Dak gives them the option to trade him. I would not mind seeing a trade like LA and Detroit, a change of scenery can be a good thing sometimes. It would be interesting to see how Dak would do with another team, a team with a head coach that has command of the locker room. Which I have been saying is the issue with Cowboys, not the QB. Heard on the radio one day a sports writer talk about the Jimmy days, he said when you were in the locker-room the players would be cutting up having fun, but when Jimmy walked in the room it went silent. That is what this team is missing, strong head coach leadership, Jerry undermines the HC leadership, that is the problem that has been haunting this team all these years, it is the missing ingredient.


Now that is clear-headed thinking. When did you take your blinders off? up

I only been saying this a bajillion times, I’m glad it’s finally sinking it.


So your implying that JJ makes Dak fail in the playoffs, somehow coercing him into throwing the interceptions and making those bad decisions confused2

Mathew Stafford did not have nearly the same talent level on both sides of the line that Dak has had, so not really a fair comparison
BTW when Stafford went to the Rams that had good players on both sides of the ball what happened, well I'll be danged they Won a Super bowl up

Sometimes stats do not expose all of the evidence that you have presented in this matter, they do not tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help us football experts rofl

Maybe we should ask Buzz for his expert opinion, didn't he say that he played for the Cowboys?

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Originally Posted by Grit
You can rest assured they ain't going all the way. roflmao

30 years of history confirms this. All smoke and mirrors anyway. They will probably win 9-11 games and flop in the 1st round. Just enough to sell some merchandise, pack the stands and dangle that carrot another year. Jerry will act mad, count his billions and the fans will be back to “We Dem Boyz, this is our year” this time next year.

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rofl comparing Dak to Stafford loco


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Looks at Mathew Stafford, 12 years in, 3 playoff apparencies and lost all 3. Then goes to LA in a trade and starts winning in the post season, and wins a SB. This is an example that making a deep run in the playoffs is not all about the QB, it is about the team, and not just the players but the coaching, culture, chemistry.... It's a complicated formula and not one dimensional.

[Linked Image]

By signing Dak gives them the option to trade him. I would not mind seeing a trade like LA and Detroit, a change of scenery can be a good thing sometimes. It would be interesting to see how Dak would do with another team, a team with a head coach that has command of the locker room. Which I have been saying is the issue with Cowboys, not the QB. Heard on the radio one day a sports writer talk about the Jimmy days, he said when you were in the locker-room the players would be cutting up having fun, but when Jimmy walked in the room it went silent. That is what this team is missing, strong head coach leadership, Jerry undermines the HC leadership, that is the problem that has been haunting this team all these years, it is the missing ingredient.


Now that is clear-headed thinking. When did you take your blinders off? up

I only been saying this a bajillion times, I’m glad it’s finally sinking it.


So your implying that JJ makes Dak fail in the playoffs, somehow coercing him into throwing the interceptions and making those bad decisions confused2

Mathew Stafford did not have nearly the same talent level on both sides of the line that Dak has had, so not really a fair comparison
BTW when Stafford went to the Rams that had good players on both sides of the ball what happened, well I'll be danged they Won a Super bowl up

Sometimes stats do not expose all of the evidence that you have presented in this matter, they do not tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help us football experts rofl

Maybe we should ask Buzz for his expert opinion, didn't he say that he played for the Cowboys?

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Did they change the Cowboys Game time Sunday because of the Hurricane?


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[quote=Guy]Looks at Mathew Stafford, 12 years in, 3 playoff apparencies and lost all 3. Then goes to LA in a trade and starts winning in the post season, and wins a SB. This is an example that making a deep run in the playoffs is not all about the QB, it is about the team, and not just the players but the coaching, culture, chemistry.... It's a complicated formula and not one dimensional.

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By signing Dak gives them the option to trade him. I would not mind seeing a trade like LA and Detroit, a change of scenery can be a good thing sometimes. It would be interesting to see how Dak would do with another team, a team with a head coach that has command of the locker room. Which I have been saying is the issue with Cowboys, not the QB. Heard on the radio one day a sports writer talk about the Jimmy days, he said when you were in the locker-room the players would be cutting up having fun, but when Jimmy walked in the room it went silent. That is what this team is missing, strong head coach leadership, Jerry undermines the HC leadership, that is the problem that has been haunting this team all these years, it is the missing ingredient.


Now that is clear-headed thinking. When did you take your blinders off? up

I only been saying this a bajillion times, I’m glad it’s finally sinking it.


So your implying that JJ makes Dak fail in the playoffs, somehow coercing him into throwing the interceptions and making those bad decisions confused2

Mathew Stafford did not have nearly the same talent level on both sides of the line that Dak has had, so not really a fair comparison
BTW when Stafford went to the Rams that had good players on both sides of the ball what happened, well I'll be danged they Won a Super bowl up

Sometimes stats do not expose all of the evidence that you have presented in this matter, they do not tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help us football experts rofl

Maybe we should ask Buzz for his expert opinion, didn't he say that he played for the Cowboys?

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Did they change the Cowboys Game time Sunday because of the Hurricane?


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Why don't you just tell us, Buzz. confused2


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You’re missing my point, you big fat dummy.

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Is that Buzz on the right? Seems I remember seeing that before.

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rofl comparing Dak to Stafford loco

You’re missing my point, you big fat dummy.


rofl You literally just did that...


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Is that Buzz on the right? Seems I remember seeing that before.


He posts a pic of that ring several years ago and claimed he played for them. A couple of years ago he posts a pic of it said it's from a family member who worked in their office. You can decide which story is the truth for yourself but I know which one I believe.

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He's not in uniform.

My daddy had connections and got me in on a practice session one year. This was '77-'78. The football was typical brown leather, but had a smooth white face for writing on. I got to go in the locker room after practice and the players signed my ball.

I no longer have the ball. I sold it early 80s. When they ran out of room on the ball, they started signing a plain sheet of notebook paper. I still have it.

Somewhat related, I was shopping at Northpark Mall one evening. This was early 90s. Walking towards me came Tom Landry. I got to shake his hand and thank him for the great years.


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Is that Buzz on the right? Seems I remember seeing that before.


Yep thats him in his tight, White shorts he is wearing, his shorts are so tight you can see the outline of the Depends he has on underneath laugh bolt

Actually I am Jealous of Buzz's situation with the Cowboys back then. I think he dad was like the marketing director or some position like that, so yes Buzz literally got to hang with the Cowboys up


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