You can believe me or not
I am telling you what happened

Not my scenario at all
You can fake a background check easy

BS
Academy only does in store purchases on guns and doesn’t send any “paperwork” out to a consumer.
There is no way you could have received paperwork on another person. The person buying the gun doesn’t even get a copy of their 4473.
You picked the wrong company to spin your yarn about. Academy is the strictest firearms retailer in the US.
This story is kind of like the one you told on TFF about buying guns online with a made up FFL and having the guns shipped straight to your home.
If you’re going to make up sh!t about firearms you should stay out of the conversations.

I bet my episode happened before you were born

Okay, well then, I don't believe you...that simply isn't how the process works.

My son turns 16 next week. He is very responsible with firearms and has shot in Sr's .22 competition many times. I'm sure a few of you would attest to his responsible handling. Guess what he does not have unfettered access to in our house? And he has not exhibited ANY tendency to make threats or make any type of stupid decision like take a gun to school. Yes, this parent does bear some of the guilt here.

The current NICS background check did not start until 1998. Your story has more holes than swiss cheese.

Academy didn’t start selling guns until 1995 they did not offer them n any form of fashion. I am probably a lot older than you.
Plus I sold firearms to Academy since they started selling them. I started off selling them Heritage pistols then Weatherby rifles and Armalite rifles. I have been working with Academy since 1986 when they had 13 stores so I know exactly what I’m talking about.
I can assure you that what you said happened did not happen at any time with academy.
Every 4473 fills out at academy is done in the store and if you make an error filling it out they usually won’t let you correct it and make you wait 10 days to reapply.
You made your story up Butch.

I with as well.

Not trying to pile on, but I bought my first new handgun in 1974, my last one new one was last year. I was an FFL dealer for about 10 years.
This is story is bizarre.

Somebody go in here and ask that question the next time passing through.


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It’s not bizarre it is complete BS. Butch spews carp like this on TFF all the time.

butch sanders,
Your trolling. Your making stuff up. Stop it. Your only warning.

ok
thanks for being civil
i went into Academy in like 2003
I wanted a 10-22 to plink with on opening day of dove season
they ran a check, I didn't pass they requested paperwork be sent to me from Quantico
i received 2 envelopes from The FBI
1 had blank forms
the other 1 had
finger prints- copy of SS card- copy of birth certificate
i thought thats cool they have sent me an example
just for fun i called the phone # & a guy answered it
i had all of his info
the fun really started when i tried to return it
Arlington PD told me to get that stuff out of their office, Dallas FBI wouldn't meet me, & there was no way i was going top mail it

so not sure why you cats think i would lie about this
there are some real a-holes on the internet though
& why would y'all support the fools at the FBI?

well then you heard the same story there
you internet bullies spew the same stuff all the time
i think i am going to book a hunt with you

Hammer time!

I have failed a background check for a gun on multiple occasions, maybe fail is the wrong word, I got a delay in the processing "if you don't hear anything back about this in 7 days come back and you will be good to go..." or something along that line.

I found out thru a school screening I had my identity hacked, someone druggie in some northern state (by that I just mean north of Texas) had used my Identity when he was booked for drug charges. The Investigator for the school wanted to meet with me to confirm I wasn't the guy posing as me, he had mug shots, and aliases, and he confirmed pretty quickly it wasn't me that got busted.

I never had any paperwork sent to me when I failed/delayed the background check for buying a gun. I can not even imagine why the FBI would be involved in an ATF issue. Separate departments, separate people, separate paperwork. Is it possible someone was playing a prank on ole buster when he was trying to buy a 10-22, sure. Is it possible he has some issues that need dealt with on an inpatient basis with meds...given the insistence the story happened and the details he has provided, he sure seems to THINK this happened to him. There can be two "truths" to this story. One may not be "real", but if believed to be real to the person involved..it can be true to that person. Just throwing that out as a possible.

Maybe like on Seinfeld where George said “it’s not a lie… if you believe it”

Isn't the point to have your firearms reasonably secured? Isn't that the objective and you're good to go?

Courts like that word reasonable.

The FBI operates the NICS and does the background check. If a person fails, the FBI doesn't send them anything. There is an appeal process, but the person has to initiate that. They will send very basic info back (jurisdiction, crime and conviction date) about what caused the fail, but they certainly don't send back identifying information for anyone, including the person who files the appeal. All identifying information is on a one way street to them.

Yep, FBI, ATF, all the alphabet agencies have a long-standing behavior of not playing well with others, they don't share identifying information. I do not believe there is a way on this Earth the documents claimed received were sent by any federal agency.

Wasn't sure on the FBI vs the ATF. I did a search on the google and it said the ATF was in charge...maybe that was just for FFL transfers or something. I stand corrected on the NCIS background checks...carry on