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Re: Should I buy a Leupold?
[Re: DJ22]
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09/02/24 07:57 PM
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J.G.
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I've hunted in the Rockies.
I killed a bull elk on public land. I was using a Mil based scope. He was 250 yards away and broad side. I held .5 Mil on his lungs and put him down in one shot. . I’m not talking about taking down the largest game animal in N. America; standing still while it’s broadside. You’ve seen a Whitetail in the Rockies? Had to be a rare sight there. I continue to spot, even while I shoulder my rifle (if given the time) You probably just jumped out of the truck too. Your skill and knowledge is beyond me comprehension. Hats off to ya! I did not say I whitetail hunted in the Rockies. I was giving you some measurements to go by. Because of your statement "junk out of your field of view". Which is completely not true. The only animals I've killed from the truck are hogs and coyotes. Farthest coyote to date was on November wheat. I ranged him at 540 yards. I held 3.0 Mils on his lungs and squeezed the trigger. Down he went. I know how to stalk, stay out of the light and keep the wind in my favor. I can also make ethical shots farther than most people, because I practice it 52 weeks a year.
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Re: Should I buy a Leupold?
[Re: scottfromdallas]
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09/03/24 01:57 AM
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Okie Newton
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I have Leupold scopes and really like them. Of course they are the better models. and 30mm tubes on some of them. I gradually got away from Bushnell and gradually switched over when I had extra money. Even dumped all my change at the end of the day and saved it till the bucket got full. Didn't sting quite as bad that way.
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Re: Should I buy a Leupold?
[Re: DJ22]
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09/03/24 10:49 PM
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I prefer a clean reticle for hunting. Keep that junk out of your field of view. It may cover up an even bigger animal next to the one your look at; or conceal its movement just enough to loose them. Save that stuff for sniper or precision shooting. Yeah. There might be a giant animal hiding behind a tiny hashmark or a dot. Freakin hilarious. That’s right; I forgot. Many folks out here have never hunted the Rocky Mountains or the Sierra Nevada mountain ranges. Cage hunt’in Flatlanders. My bad. Now, that’s hilarious 36 years now in Wyoming, how long have you hunted the Rockies? I shot my rifle with the B&C reticle at ranges to know where it impacts with the different hash marks , I also keep my shots on 6x on the variable scope and sighted it on that power. I do shoot it at varying powers to see where it shoots, it stayed within the kill zone from 4x-10x. I zero at 200 and know I have a 350 and 450 yd hash on the reticle. Has worked so far for me. And yes I understand the long range guys needing the dial scopes, makes perfect sense. But I've seen long rang guys have issues getting that scope dialed and on the buck when in the field. Buck fever has to be accounted for.
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Re: Should I buy a Leupold?
[Re: scottfromdallas]
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09/03/24 10:52 PM
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We have whitetails in the mountains, and yes I have hunted them too. Once took a blue grouse with my 300wsm. That pesky B&C reticle actually helped, lol.
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Re: Should I buy a Leupold?
[Re: scottfromdallas]
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09/04/24 03:38 PM
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DJ22
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Every single deer I’ve harvest was at less than 200 yards away
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Re: Should I buy a Leupold?
[Re: Wytex]
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09/04/24 04:22 PM
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We have whitetails in the mountains, and yes I have hunted them too. Once took a blue grouse with my 300wsm. That pesky B&C reticle actually helped, lol.
I've killed several hundred big game animals, and at least that many hogs. That B&C reticle is a game killing machine in the right hands, no doubt about it. I've had one on a Tikka 7mm08 for years, fueling a 140AB load 2820' at the muzzle, sighted in a 215 yds. The corresponding hashes put it dead nuts on at 300, 400, 450, and 500. Given the fact that 98% of big game animals I've killed since 1971 are at 300yds and in, it flat out works no matter what the internet says.
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Re: Should I buy a Leupold?
[Re: DJ22]
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09/04/24 05:30 PM
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Every single deer I’ve harvest was at less than 200 yards away I’ve killed 50 in a week from 30-75 yards with a 22-250 from a buggy or pickup truck, and your point? Having the ability of 100% hit probably at 500 yards, isn’t something to chaise someone over, just because you won’t put in the range and wind work in. Above timber line on Sheep can be pretty sporty, don’t know about you but I think I’d master my shooting and wind reading to make sure I didn’t waste OIL tags because I was pinned down on last day.
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Re: Should I buy a Leupold?
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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09/04/24 05:37 PM
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J.G.
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Every single deer I’ve harvest was at less than 200 yards away I’ve killed 50 in a week from 30-75 yards with a 22-250 from a buggy or pickup truck, and your point? Having the ability of 100% hit probably at 500 yards, isn’t something to chaise someone over, just because you won’t put in the range and wind work in. Above timber line on Sheep can be pretty sporty, don’t know about you but I think I’d master my shooting and wind reading to make sure I didn’t waste OIL tags because I was pinned down in last day. Yup! Victory favors the prepared.
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Re: Should I buy a Leupold?
[Re: scottfromdallas]
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09/05/24 11:30 AM
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DJ22
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I apply the analogy of K.I.S.S. to almost every aspect of life. KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID.
If you going to hunt Mountain Goats or Antelope, best step up to a more complex reticle. If your out on foot and jumping deer in dense forest with steep terrain, a clean reticle is always best. All that junk is going to be in your way.
I may hunt from horseback, but I never hunt from a truck or in a cage. Ever! The day I have to, is the day I stop hunting.
Reminds me of some of the best military pilots flying the most sophisticated aircraft in the World. Put them back in a Cessna 150, and they are lost for a moment.
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Re: Should I buy a Leupold?
[Re: Jgraider]
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09/05/24 12:32 PM
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Wytex
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We have whitetails in the mountains, and yes I have hunted them too. Once took a blue grouse with my 300wsm. That pesky B&C reticle actually helped, lol.
I've killed several hundred big game animals, and at least that many hogs. That B&C reticle is a game killing machine in the right hands, no doubt about it. I've had one on a Tikka 7mm08 for years, fueling a 140AB load 2820' at the muzzle, sighted in a 215 yds. The corresponding hashes put it dead nuts on at 300, 400, 450, and 500. Given the fact that 98% of big game animals I've killed since 1971 are at 300yds and in, it flat out works no matter what the internet says. Yes sir, I agree 100% , lol. Who would have thought it .
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Re: Should I buy a Leupold?
[Re: Wytex]
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09/05/24 02:04 PM
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DJ22
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We have whitetails in the mountains, and yes I have hunted them too. Once took a blue grouse with my 300wsm. That pesky B&C reticle actually helped, lol.
I've killed several hundred big game animals, and at least that many hogs. That B&C reticle is a game killing machine in the right hands, no doubt about it. I've had one on a Tikka 7mm08 for years, fueling a 140AB load 2820' at the muzzle, sighted in a 215 yds. The corresponding hashes put it dead nuts on at 300, 400, 450, and 500. Given the fact that 98% of big game animals I've killed since 1971 are at 300yds and in, it flat out works no matter what the internet says. Yes sir, I agree 100% , lol. Who would have thought it . This I will agree; a fantastic reticle.
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Re: Should I buy a Leupold?
[Re: Wytex]
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09/05/24 02:07 PM
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LonestarCobra
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We have whitetails in the mountains, and yes I have hunted them too. Once took a blue grouse with my 300wsm. That pesky B&C reticle actually helped, lol.
I've killed several hundred big game animals, and at least that many hogs. That B&C reticle is a game killing machine in the right hands, no doubt about it. I've had one on a Tikka 7mm08 for years, fueling a 140AB load 2820' at the muzzle, sighted in a 215 yds. The corresponding hashes put it dead nuts on at 300, 400, 450, and 500. Given the fact that 98% of big game animals I've killed since 1971 are at 300yds and in, it flat out works no matter what the internet says. Yes sir, I agree 100% , lol. Who would have thought it . I have one on a 25-06, it is a good setup that I have grown to not like, I now prefer FFP and the NF MIL C reticle. However, when that B&C came out, I thought it was the greatest thing years ago, and it still works today. I have never had an issue with clutter. If I ever have to hunt an area with cover too tight for a scope like that, I will have an open sight 45-70 in my hands.
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Re: Should I buy a Leupold?
[Re: LonestarCobra]
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09/05/24 02:17 PM
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J.G.
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Not too busy at all. My favorite reticle. It has worked at 10 yards and everything to 2180 yards.
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Re: Should I buy a Leupold?
[Re: scottfromdallas]
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09/05/24 02:34 PM
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Wytex
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J.G. I would never use all those hash marks on that scope, that does look a little busy to me. But I know lots of folks that use them with extreme accuracy.
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Re: Should I buy a Leupold?
[Re: Wytex]
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09/05/24 02:39 PM
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J.G.
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Most people won't use them all.
If you're holding elevation, it makes for speed as well as very precise hits.
100 yard zero.
200 yards hold .4 Mil 300 yards hold 1.0 Mil 400 yards hold 1.8 Mil
Change cartridges and/or bullets, and/or muzzle velocity and the numbers change.
If you're going to dial elevation, that reticle gives you very precise wind holds as well. The most difficult and smallest target on my range is a 4" plate at 800 yards. That reticle will let you hold the wind tight enough you can hit it.
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Re: Should I buy a Leupold?
[Re: Wytex]
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09/05/24 02:40 PM
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freerange
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We have whitetails in the mountains, and yes I have hunted them too. Once took a blue grouse with my 300wsm. That pesky B&C reticle actually helped, lol.
I've killed several hundred big game animals, and at least that many hogs. That B&C reticle is a game killing machine in the right hands, no doubt about it. I've had one on a Tikka 7mm08 for years, fueling a 140AB load 2820' at the muzzle, sighted in a 215 yds. The corresponding hashes put it dead nuts on at 300, 400, 450, and 500. Given the fact that 98% of big game animals I've killed since 1971 are at 300yds and in, it flat out works no matter what the internet says. Yes sir, I agree 100% , lol. Who would have thought it . Some of us noticers noticed and were happy to see it as well.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Should I buy a Leupold?
[Re: Wytex]
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09/05/24 04:46 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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J.G. I would never use all those hash marks on that scope, that does look a little busy to me. But I know lots of folks that use them with extreme accuracy. What funny is JG and I both’s ideal scope would have less then 5moa wind and similar 1.5 mil. That’s 5 MOA is for a 20 mph wind at 600 yards with a 28Nos 195 Berger. not sure I can read wind good enough to be taking a longer shot than that with high wind, in fact I’d stop at 400 probably with that much wind. Truthfully I would hold no more then 5 MOA verticals either. I need to be more precise over 400, and would dial
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