Apparently it is a private entity and has the ability to ban LTC holders from entering while carrying, but I believe it's a bad policy. When was the last time you heard of a LTC holder creating issues at the fair. It's only the lawbreaking miscreants that cause problems and cause problems. I have always carried legally while visiting the fair but will now rethink whether or not I attend given that law abiding citizens can no longer carry. I guess only the 14 LEOs there and the criminals will be packing.

Place is a chit hole, have not been in 15 years. Every year they have shootings of some variety.

I have not been in 3 or 4 years, but have always carried there. NO question about it. I would not go there unarmed.

It does not matter who is running it, the rules apply as to who owns it. It is owned by The City of Dallas. Leasers cannot dictate licensed carriers' access as long as they follow all of the rules.

Just because some libtard a**hat says it is against the their rules, does not make it against the law.

I had thought fair park was owned by the city based on the money Dallas spends maintaining and improving it. Hope the ruling is challenged prior to the far opening.

I pretty sure it is owned by the City of Dallas still.

I had a warehouse just outside the gate off Grand Avenue, Just another part of Dallas, no biggie

I have been going to the State fair since I was old enough to drive, it's safe no need to be scared

agree

Dallas suks

unarmed peasants are what "THEY" want

Not scared. As a practice, I carry always and everywhere. And I usually don't go places that I can't carry unless I really, really want to go there. Guess don't really, really want to go to the fair.

Most places don't use machines to scan you like that State Fair does, I think most people ignore the 30.06 signs.

So some punk gets a gun into the state fair, a non licensed holder and now it's banned for everyone, and officials say they still don't know how he got the gun into the fair.

I was kinda surprised they ever let guns in there in the first place. Seems like City of Dallas has made some kind of BS company to run the state fair and made it a 501c3 company so the could ban guns.

Can buy knives at the fair. Not worried about safety at fair, its the dart ride down there

I can legally carry anywhere I want to and still wouldn't go to the state fair.

I just drive, get off at 2nd Avenue off 30 go park same place you park for the concerts, it like $20 and you are parked inside the fair grounds by the where all the farm animals and the Chevy Driving course.

Easy peasy and that lot usually don't fill up and alwasy parking

Wednesday they have bring 3 cans of food for a free entry per person, it's not too crowded during the week.

Yup! Dallas is a chit hole. And the state fair area is a cesspool inside that giant chit hole.

And now I couldn't legally carry if for some odd reason I were to have to go there.

Nope. They can keep it. I will continue to enjoy my peace and quiet in the country.

Yep. If someone wants to take their kids to some kind of similar venue, the FW Stock Show does allow LTC's and there's not a bunch of Bloods and Crips running around in their gangs like at the State Fair.

Fort Worth Stock Show suxs since it's in the dead of winter. State Fair of Texas is in the perfect fall weather time of they year

I didn't know you were so scared

Texas State Fair is pure greatness, I enjoy all the free shows they put on during the day, and enjoy all the food to eat. It's a great place to spend a day.

For us who grew up in Dallas area, we got free tickets and were given a day out of school each year to attend the fair, It's a tradition for us to go to the State Fair each year.

Another guy scared to go to Dallas or Fort Worth, boogie man might get you. I live right off the North Dallas Tollway in Frisco, I just pop on it and I can be at the fair in about 35 minutes.

I like along with the other 2.5 million people who are expected to attend we ain't scared of the big city....

J.G. is the wrong guy to poke! Just sayin...

Scared?

I'm not scared to go into the Dallas or Ft.Worth metroplex. I am 23 years as a Firefighter/Paramedic within a big city fire department, in the metroplex. I've had my hands on more dead humans, been in more burned out houses, and been on more crime scenes than you could possibly imagine. Because myself and ntxtrapper know more than you do, we do not live inside the metroplex. We've served the people. We know better than to live with them. On duty, I can't be armed, but my PD can, and they often go with us. Off duty, I am armed at all times. Because a pistol is much lighter than a Police Officer. Any entity that wants to take that away from me, will not get my business, nor see me on their property.

Look around, and you'll see fire hydrants no more than 500 feet apart, across any north Texas city that is well funded. Because we never know where a fire is going to happen. Firearms are the same way. Crime may happen anywhere, so people must be armed anywhere.

I've got a whole lot of law enforcement friends. 100% of them have no intention of setting foot on State Faur of Twxas grounds. And that has been their policy (and mine) for well over a decade.

You're clearly comfortable being a sheep. The sheep dogs know better than you do.

Well said! Thanks for your service

The State Fair is awesome. I'll be there again for Texas/OU on October 12, just like I have for the past 30 years. And I'll probably go back again on a lighter attendance day to take it in all again.

Read this was caused by a shooting last year by a 22 year old kid. Doubt he was licensed. He may have been carrying legally but I have my doubts. I am no longer going to the fair if that's how they want it.

Went there in IIRC '71, first and last time. Worked on S. Goodlatimer for a while before they built the area up. Barnum parked their trains there. I stay out of Dallas when possible, it's changed so much. Reminds me of NYC anymore.

He was indicted for aggravated assault X3

From the article:

So bad guy does not follow the rules, and shoots somebody. And the response is to not allow any good guys to carry guns? They've already proven they are NOT able to stop a bad guy from getting a gun...

I imagine that’s what their lawyers advised them to do.

Dumb lawyers.

Isn't that always the case? One bad actor ruins for everyone.

Yes, From both your post you sound scared or apprehensive. Your comments are full of double talk, they are just now starting no guns, but you said you have had policy of not setting foot inside the fair ground for over a decade.

I worked almost daily, had rental property in Fair Park for years, and before that I had a warehouse steps away from the front entrance of Fair Park. Sounds like you may of never been to the area.

The people who grew up in Dallas area are not afraid of Dallas or FW. Fair Park/Cotton Bowl area is where we all used to go the Texxas Jams in the 80's, We would go to concerts like The Rolling Stones each year they come thru Dallas, and State Fair is where you go in the Fall, it's a Texas Tradition. Going to Dallas and crusing around was what we did growing up and still to this day I will make an occasional trip to Dallas, it's feels like going home.

I was lucky I was raised in both country and city and had the best of both worlds growing up in Irving, we hunted land off Beltline from 114 to where 635 , hunting mostly dove and some quail, and we had land in Aubrey for ducks and squirrels.

I can see people like you whom wasn't raised around a big city like Dallas having concerned, but for us who grew up in the area it's just another spot on the map and we have alot of good memories. If you think DFW is bad I suggest you travel around the world and expand your horizons, I hear places like Chicago or Detroit have some pretty rough area. But since you don't go anywhere they don't allow guns I guess you won't be flying any where, Last I checked DFW was like the 2nd busiest airport in the world.

I will be making my annual trip to the State Fair once the weather gets perfect this Fall. You can spend the whole day catching all the free shows like Bird Show, Pig Races, Stunt Shows, Dog Show, etc and eat all kind of different food.

It is not fear, or concern. I just don't want to be around you people, when I don't have to.

Heard this morning that Paxton is fighting their attempt to make it a gun free zone. I doubt I'll be attending either way, haven't been to the fair in about 5yrs and wouldn't miss it if I never went again.

I last went to the fair two years ago to look at trucks. The rest of the fair, nope, the wife and I agreed never again. Not worth it.

Paxton is trying to get this changed.

Not fear or concern for me either and I can carry anywhere I want to carry.... but I don't like congested functions and don't put myself in that situation.

Saw that. Good news.

Exactly.

I haven’t lost anything at the fair I need to go back for….my last one was about 10 years ago! Emphasis on last!

Exactly.

The ONLY thing that has ever stopped a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

Show me a "gun control" measure that does NOT take guns out of the hands of good guys and succeeds taking guns from the hands of bad guys and I'll be all for it. Haven't seen one yet, though.

Yea that place is a chit hole, and I'd never go there and not carry. Not that I'll be returning anyway.

Last time we went was myself, wife, son, mother in law, and mother in law's brother who was visiting from Peru.

This was on "high school night" it was an absolute mad house hour line waits just to get the tickets to ride the rides. Think Colt actually got to ride 2 the entire time we were there. There was zero parking in any of the parking lots, so we tried a side lot and the Hispanic lady that was taking money at the gate said my truck was too big and I couldn't park in there. Finally saw someone pulling out of a parking spot and we hopped in, my truck was surrounded by probably 1000 other vehicles. Come out of the fair and sure enough all the vehicles I parked beside were still there, but guess what my Raptor had vanished. This is at 11PM and the huge crowds up and down the streets were already pretty large. I flagged down a police officer and told him I thought my truck might have gotten stolen and he said nope it was towed. Asked him if he knew who the tow company was, he said not but that gas station might know. So whole family walked through the crowds of rambunctious teens to the gas station. I guess the gas station owner was getting pretty fearful because before I could get to the door they were locking up and closing down. Walked down to the next place and asked the person behind the counter and they had no clue and wasn't paying much attention because their store was overrun with people. I just happened to see a tow company sign on the dumpster of the gas station. Called the number and asked them if they had my truck, sure enough they had it on the other side of HWY75. By this time it was around 12AM and the crowds were massive. We were getting some pretty serious looks and we walked closer to the road where the police were parked, I went up to police officer and let him know I found the truck and he told me I should probably get my family out of the area and he was surprised there hadn't been any shootings or stabbings yet.

Brought up the Uber app to get a ride to the tow yard, the Uber app literally made us walk a mile and a half because the area we were in was too dangerous for pickup. After all that and around $380 tow fee we were on our way home from the fair around 1:30ish.

I'll never go back to that chit hole again

It's not about being scared RR it's about being smart.

Yeah, but he isn't smart.
So there's that.

^ This right here! Word!

I always go during the week like on Wednesday, If you know the area you know where to park. You park at the "Starplex" parking ground where all the concerts are, it runs about $20 but your inside the fair ground and next to the all the barns and where they do the place where they let you drive the new Chevy Trucks around the course.

I have even worked at the Fair in the past, You just got to know the area and how the game is played there with parking.

Sure you can be armed at work, why let others tell you what to do? Go find a job where you can make your own rules and not have someone tell you what to do?

You stated any entity that take away your right to carry a gun will not see your business, but then you go work at a place that will not allow you to carry, your statements just don't jive.

Then you said you need police with you to go to the "Big City".

Probably more than 50% of people on the THF carry a gun, it's not that big of deal.

I remember old ladies in the 70's and 80's who would carry a pistol in their purse

I never find any food inside that food court that I like to eat, All the good food seems to be located outside while walking around. That area is a good place to be able to sit down and chill out during the day if it's hot.

I always try to hit the car and truck show display area at the heat of day, they keep it pretty cool and go chill out in the massage chairs area where you can try them out for free

It is department policy. No carrying on duty.

You don't read so well. I carry every day, just not at work.

Like I said why do you let others tell you what to do, If you choose to work at a place that will not let you carry a gun then that's on you bud.

Seem like your job or your "Entity" doesn't allow you to carry and you comply, Which contradicts what you say.

You think it's a big deal to carry gun in Texas? Geez you must be young. I remember going to night clubs in Dallas in the mid 80's lots of dudes carry pistols back then, Why I have no clue, I guess they thought they were cool.

Let me give you a newsflash, lot of people carry everyday, it's just not that big of deal.

How is Epstein's next island doing

The State Fair doubled down and responded to Paxton that they are a private entity and can do whatever they want as far as gun possession at the event.

It would serve them right if AG Paxton were to shut down the whole fair for failing to obey State Constitutional law!

Reportedly, there is going to be a court decision about this today.

IIRC, Paxton surrendered. But TV news says court case is still on, maybe results tonite?

Attempt to block State Fair of Texas gun ban denied by judge

https://www.fox4news.com/news/state-fair-texas-gun-ban-allowed-stand

Paxton may appeal last nite decision.

The state fair runs for 24 days only. The Appeals Court isn't likely to put him at the front of the line for something like this.

This stuff is called “court shopping” or picking the right judge.

I will go check out today and see how the scanners and the people actually checking for weapons are doing

I am a semi expert on this process

'I am a semi expert on this process' Humm. Did they check the horses now?

I have traveled many places and of course airports have body scanner and the good ones where you have to put your hands in the air and it scanner goes all around you.

Plus traveling especially in the Philippines you get alot of scanners, like walking into malls or bus terminals.

My buddy tucks his pistol in his groin area and nevers gets caught. The weak link is always the person who does the final check.

The State Fair of Texas appears very easy place to carry you gun if you wanted to, I could of went in the exit that is how relaxed the security was.

They have something called people movers and you need to remove your hat, and it appears they have just regular fair people working scanners.

I myself when I used to carry on me I never looked or cared if a store or a business had any signage I just carried and the fine was like $200, they say it's against the law to carry a gun on lake that is corp property, I know many who violate that law.

If you couldn't get you gun into the State Fair with a LTC then you aren't very wise or smart, looked like a piece of cake to me. The fair crowd is made up by about 80% woman and children and most seemed to me caucasian when I was there on Wednesday, to me the State Fair is like a 2nd home I have been going so long, no need or desire to tote one with me.

Exactly! So, the only people that don't have guns will be the law abiding citizens. That shows how blatantly stupid the policy is.

Interesting.
https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amend...carry-private-property-unconstitutional/

Went back on Thursday to State Fair, Lots more people this time, This one dude with a stick is what is checking for a gun.