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 State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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Apparently it is a private entity and has the ability to ban LTC holders from entering while carrying, but I believe it's a bad policy. When was the last time you heard of a LTC holder creating issues at the fair. It's only the lawbreaking miscreants that cause problems and cause problems. I have always carried legally while visiting the fair but will now rethink whether or not I attend given that law abiding citizens can no longer carry. I guess only the 14 LEOs there and the criminals will be packing.
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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Place is a chit hole, have not been in 15 years. Every year they have shootings of some variety.
I am still looking for the perfect apron, one with reinforced knee areas would be perfect.
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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I have not been in 3 or 4 years, but have always carried there. NO question about it. I would not go there unarmed.
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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It does not matter who is running it, the rules apply as to who owns it. It is owned by The City of Dallas. Leasers cannot dictate licensed carriers' access as long as they follow all of the rules.
Just because some libtard a**hat says it is against the their rules, does not make it against the law.
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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08/10/24 01:41 AM
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I had thought fair park was owned by the city based on the money Dallas spends maintaining and improving it. Hope the ruling is challenged prior to the far opening.
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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08/10/24 04:22 PM
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I had thought fair park was owned by the city based on the money Dallas spends maintaining and improving it. Hope the ruling is challenged prior to the far opening. I pretty sure it is owned by the City of Dallas still.
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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08/10/24 04:23 PM
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I have not been in 3 or 4 years, but have always carried there. NO question about it. I would not go there unarmed. I had a warehouse just outside the gate off Grand Avenue, Just another part of Dallas, no biggie I have been going to the State fair since I was old enough to drive, it's safe no need to be scared
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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08/11/24 02:37 AM
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I have not been in 3 or 4 years, but have always carried there. NO question about it. I would not go there unarmed. I had a warehouse just outside the gate off Grand Avenue, Just another part of Dallas, no biggie I have been going to the State fair since I was old enough to drive, it's safe no need to be scared agree Dallas suks unarmed peasants are what "THEY" want
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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I have not been in 3 or 4 years, but have always carried there. NO question about it. I would not go there unarmed. I had a warehouse just outside the gate off Grand Avenue, Just another part of Dallas, no biggie I have been going to the State fair since I was old enough to drive, it's safe no need to be scared Not scared. As a practice, I carry always and everywhere. And I usually don't go places that I can't carry unless I really, really want to go there. Guess don't really, really want to go to the fair.
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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I have not been in 3 or 4 years, but have always carried there. NO question about it. I would not go there unarmed. I had a warehouse just outside the gate off Grand Avenue, Just another part of Dallas, no biggie I have been going to the State fair since I was old enough to drive, it's safe no need to be scared Not scared. As a practice, I carry always and everywhere. And I usually don't go places that I can't carry unless I really, really want to go there. Guess don't really, really want to go to the fair. Most places don't use machines to scan you like that State Fair does, I think most people ignore the 30.06 signs.
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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So some punk gets a gun into the state fair, a non licensed holder and now it's banned for everyone, and officials say they still don't know how he got the gun into the fair. I was kinda surprised they ever let guns in there in the first place. Seems like City of Dallas has made some kind of BS company to run the state fair and made it a 501c3 company so the could ban guns.
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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Can buy knives at the fair. Not worried about safety at fair, its the dart ride down there
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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I have not been in 3 or 4 years, but have always carried there. NO question about it. I would not go there unarmed. I had a warehouse just outside the gate off Grand Avenue, Just another part of Dallas, no biggie I have been going to the State fair since I was old enough to drive, it's safe no need to be scared Not scared. As a practice, I carry always and everywhere. And I usually don't go places that I can't carry unless I really, really want to go there. Guess don't really, really want to go to the fair. I can legally carry anywhere I want to and still wouldn't go to the state fair.
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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Can buy knives at the fair. Not worried about safety at fair, its the dart ride down there I just drive, get off at 2nd Avenue off 30 go park same place you park for the concerts, it like $20 and you are parked inside the fair grounds by the where all the farm animals and the Chevy Driving course. Easy peasy and that lot usually don't fill up and alwasy parking Wednesday they have bring 3 cans of food for a free entry per person, it's not too crowded during the week.
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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Place is a chit hole, have not been in 15 years. Every year they have shootings of some variety. Yup! Dallas is a chit hole. And the state fair area is a cesspool inside that giant chit hole. And now I couldn't legally carry if for some odd reason I were to have to go there. Nope. They can keep it. I will continue to enjoy my peace and quiet in the country.
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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Place is a chit hole, have not been in 15 years. Every year they have shootings of some variety. Yup! Dallas is a chit hole. And the state fair area is a cesspool inside that giant chit hole. And now I couldn't legally carry if for some odd reason I were to have to go there. Nope. They can keep it. I will continue to enjoy my peace and quiet in the country. Yep. If someone wants to take their kids to some kind of similar venue, the FW Stock Show does allow LTC's and there's not a bunch of Bloods and Crips running around in their gangs like at the State Fair.
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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Place is a chit hole, have not been in 15 years. Every year they have shootings of some variety. Yup! Dallas is a chit hole. And the state fair area is a cesspool inside that giant chit hole. And now I couldn't legally carry if for some odd reason I were to have to go there. Nope. They can keep it. I will continue to enjoy my peace and quiet in the country. Yep. If someone wants to take their kids to some kind of similar venue, the FW Stock Show does allow LTC's and there's not a bunch of Bloods and Crips running around in their gangs like at the State Fair. Fort Worth Stock Show suxs since it's in the dead of winter. State Fair of Texas is in the perfect fall weather time of they year I didn't know you were so scared Texas State Fair is pure greatness, I enjoy all the free shows they put on during the day, and enjoy all the food to eat. It's a great place to spend a day. For us who grew up in Dallas area, we got free tickets and were given a day out of school each year to attend the fair, It's a tradition for us to go to the State Fair each year.
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Place is a chit hole, have not been in 15 years. Every year they have shootings of some variety. Yup! Dallas is a chit hole. And the state fair area is a cesspool inside that giant chit hole. And now I couldn't legally carry if for some odd reason I were to have to go there. Nope. They can keep it. I will continue to enjoy my peace and quiet in the country. Another guy scared to go to Dallas or Fort Worth, boogie man might get you. I live right off the North Dallas Tollway in Frisco, I just pop on it and I can be at the fair in about 35 minutes. I like along with the other 2.5 million people who are expected to attend we ain't scared of the big city....
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Place is a chit hole, have not been in 15 years. Every year they have shootings of some variety. Yup! Dallas is a chit hole. And the state fair area is a cesspool inside that giant chit hole. And now I couldn't legally carry if for some odd reason I were to have to go there. Nope. They can keep it. I will continue to enjoy my peace and quiet in the country. Another guy scared to go to Dallas or Fort Worth, boogie man might get you. I live right off the North Dallas Tollway in Frisco, I just pop on it and I can be at the fair in about 35 minutes. I like along with the other 2.5 million people who are expected to attend we ain't scared of the big city.... J.G. is the wrong guy to poke! Just sayin...
I am still looking for the perfect apron, one with reinforced knee areas would be perfect.
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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Place is a chit hole, have not been in 15 years. Every year they have shootings of some variety. Yup! Dallas is a chit hole. And the state fair area is a cesspool inside that giant chit hole. And now I couldn't legally carry if for some odd reason I were to have to go there. Nope. They can keep it. I will continue to enjoy my peace and quiet in the country. Another guy scared to go to Dallas or Fort Worth, boogie man might get you. I live right off the North Dallas Tollway in Frisco, I just pop on it and I can be at the fair in about 35 minutes. I like along with the other 2.5 million people who are expected to attend we ain't scared of the big city.... Scared? I'm not scared to go into the Dallas or Ft.Worth metroplex. I am 23 years as a Firefighter/Paramedic within a big city fire department, in the metroplex. I've had my hands on more dead humans, been in more burned out houses, and been on more crime scenes than you could possibly imagine. Because myself and ntxtrapper know more than you do, we do not live inside the metroplex. We've served the people. We know better than to live with them. On duty, I can't be armed, but my PD can, and they often go with us. Off duty, I am armed at all times. Because a pistol is much lighter than a Police Officer. Any entity that wants to take that away from me, will not get my business, nor see me on their property. Look around, and you'll see fire hydrants no more than 500 feet apart, across any north Texas city that is well funded. Because we never know where a fire is going to happen. Firearms are the same way. Crime may happen anywhere, so people must be armed anywhere. I've got a whole lot of law enforcement friends. 100% of them have no intention of setting foot on State Faur of Twxas grounds. And that has been their policy (and mine) for well over a decade. You're clearly comfortable being a sheep. The sheep dogs know better than you do.
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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Place is a chit hole, have not been in 15 years. Every year they have shootings of some variety. Yup! Dallas is a chit hole. And the state fair area is a cesspool inside that giant chit hole. And now I couldn't legally carry if for some odd reason I were to have to go there. Nope. They can keep it. I will continue to enjoy my peace and quiet in the country. Another guy scared to go to Dallas or Fort Worth, boogie man might get you. I live right off the North Dallas Tollway in Frisco, I just pop on it and I can be at the fair in about 35 minutes. I like along with the other 2.5 million people who are expected to attend we ain't scared of the big city.... Scared? I'm not scared to go into the Dallas or Ft.Worth metroplex. I am 23 years as a Firefighter/Paramedic within a big city fire department, in the metroplex. I've had my hands on more dead humans, been in more burned out houses, and been on more crime scenes than you could possibly imagine. Because myself and ntxtrapper know more than you do, we do not live inside the metroplex. We've served the people. We know better than to live with them. On duty, I can't be armed, but my PD can, and they often go with us. Off duty, I am armed at all times. Because a pistol is much lighter than a Police Officer. Any entity that wants to take that away from me, will not get my business, nor see me on their property. Look around, and you'll see fire hydrants no more than 500 feet apart, across any north Texas city that is well funded. Because we never know where a fire is going to happen. Firearms are the same way. Crime may happen anywhere, so people must be armed anywhere. I've got a whole lot of law enforcement friends. 100% of them have no intention of setting foot on State Faur of Twxas grounds. And that has been their policy (and mine) for well over a decade. You're clearly comfortable being a sheep. The sheep dogs know better than you do. Well said! Thanks for your service
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The State Fair is awesome. I'll be there again for Texas/OU on October 12, just like I have for the past 30 years. And I'll probably go back again on a lighter attendance day to take it in all again.
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Read this was caused by a shooting last year by a 22 year old kid. Doubt he was licensed. He may have been carrying legally but I have my doubts. I am no longer going to the fair if that's how they want it.
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Re: State Fair of Texas changes LTC policy
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Went there in IIRC '71, first and last time. Worked on S. Goodlatimer for a while before they built the area up. Barnum parked their trains there. I stay out of Dallas when possible, it's changed so much. Reminds me of NYC anymore.
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