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 Re: 3/4 ton discussion and sand
[Re: Gumbeaux]
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08/08/24 08:51 PM
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In the late 90's and early 00's, Ford was using all the same parts on 250's and 350's. They came to the conclusion that they saved enough money by managing a smaller parts inventory that it more than made up for using some slightly higher cost parts on the 250 trucks. But they still rated them differently as there are some tax implications based on the gross ratings. I actually had a conversation with an exec at Ford on this topic while I was in business school and working on a supply chain project.
Whether or not Ford is still doing that I have no idea. The front axle was the only thing different on the pre 99’ trucks. After that I believe you are correct
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Re: 3/4 ton discussion and sand
[Re: WT Hunter 1980]
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08/10/24 11:08 AM
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There is a difference in saying:
You can get a heavier duty 3/4 ton than standard but still not a one ton. This is true in many cases.
and...
A 3/4 ton and a one ton are the same with different ratings. Not with GM. I don't think with any others.
and...
You can buy a 3/4 ton and pay extra to have it say it's rated higher. I sure hope this is 100% false. Not true with GM at least.
GM made Heavy Half trucks in the late 1970's and early 1980's. They made 1500HD's in the early 2000's (half ton frame, 3/4 ton rear axle, engine, transmission, no body lift). GM did NOT make a single rear wheel one ton at all for a good while. There are also more than one rear axle in 3/4 tons from most eras of GM trucks. A gas 3/4 ton doesn't always have as large an axle as a diesel 3/4 ton. In many cases, one or two leafs might be the only difference in a 3/4 and one ton ... but they are not the same, nor can money make a 3/4 rating grow to be one ton rated.
Pass the gravy.
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Re: 3/4 ton discussion and sand
[Re: don k]
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08/16/24 01:46 AM
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I had a 2000 Dodge Ram diesel 2-wheel drive. You could take a leak in front of the back tires and get stuck. I had a 2001 Dodge Ram Van 2500 (2WD obviously) get stuck going up my paved driveway. And there is barely any incline on my driveway. The ground was muddy and soft and I dropped a wheel off the pavement as I backed up, I had enough momentum to get back up on the pavement, but our greasy Virginia clay soil on the concrete and the van just spun. I parked it, waited a couple hours for the sun to dry things out then backed it up the final ten feet.
"If your plan is for one year, plant rice.
If your plan is for ten years, plant trees.
If your plan is for one hundred years, educate children."
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Re: 3/4 ton discussion and sand
[Re: WT Hunter 1980]
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08/16/24 08:03 PM
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I think a Chevy or GMC with that big V8 gas engine would do you just fine. Make sure it has the Allison transmission and the locking differential and you'll do just fine. I have a 2018 Dodge with a cummins engine and 4wd. Never been stuck, when the back wheels start to spin I go to 4wd hi with the turn of a switch. I can't honestly say I need a 3/4 ton pickup but sure don't have to worry about overloadin a half ton either. I do go out in the pasture but I don't go muddin either. It pulls our 26 ft rv well. I can also haul a chord of firewood. Not at the same time, lol.
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