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GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 03:40 AM
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I know were gonna have some fun with this one but whats the best way to goat proof your feeders???
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 03:54 AM
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Man I hunted in Sonora and there were tons of goats I hated it! I got a pellet gun and started shooting and sooner than later they left. Shoot Billy and the herd will follow!!
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 03:57 AM
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goat fence? like netwire, or cattle pannels??
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 04:02 AM
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rifleman
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shoot all the goats...they are worthless.
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 04:04 AM
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not so true rifleman, weve considered doin away with some cattle on one place and thorin in some goats.... pretty profitable creatures....
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 04:08 AM
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not so true rifleman, weve considered doin away with some cattle on one place and thorin in some goats.... pretty profitable creatures.... Thats odd......our landowner just sold off all of his goats and got into cattle!
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 04:20 AM
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 04:29 AM
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not so true rifleman, weve considered doin away with some cattle on one place and thorin in some goats.... pretty profitable creatures.... Thats odd......our landowner just sold off all of his goats and got into cattle! lol
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 04:29 AM
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nope, just goats, i think it has to do with what kinda vegetation u got.
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 04:50 AM
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 12:29 PM
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 12:56 PM
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I know were gonna have some fun with this one but whats the best way to goat proof your feeders??? .270
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 01:34 PM
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If you do the math, the rancher can make more in 2 years off of 3 crops of kids which can be done than he can make in 2 years of leasing to hunters. I would have never believed this until I sat down and figured it out. Of course having hunters and raising livestock is the ideal situation for the landowner.
TO keep the goats out, buy the 4 inch bull wire panels and use them instead of just normal fencing and enclose your feeders area with this. It comes in heights that goats cannot clear. Do not buy the 6 inch bull wire, because they can get their horns through there and then they are stuck. If you use normal wire fencing, you have to stretch it and dig holes for posts and all of that. For the bullwire, just buy or make a T post driver and drive T posts into the ground and wire the bullwire to them and you are done.
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 02:36 PM
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Are people eating that much kid, or is this some sort of fad like emu?
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 03:08 PM
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 03:20 PM
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Goats are no fad. They have been around since Moby Dick was a minnow. They do not take much to survive. You eliminate a few predators and you can have a 150% kids crop of 3 kiddings in 2 years. Do the math and see for yourself.
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 03:26 PM
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I know the existence of the goat is not a fad. They didn't materialize out of thin air 15 years ago or anything. I'm saying the meat goats will not become the next major food source for the U.S. JMO of course. I've yet to see goat in the meat counter at United, I don't think burger king is sellin a goat burger. I'm saying the meat craze is a fad. I don't think it will keep up much longer. I'm not a goat hater by anymeans, my family made their living off hair goats back in the days when hair goats were a viable means of income.
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 03:37 PM
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I don't think he saying goats are a fad just the current high kid prices
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 03:42 PM
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I was always told that you need a fence that will hold water to keep a goat in. I guess you need a fence that will hold water to keep a goat out!!
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 03:52 PM
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If you do the math, the rancher can make more in 2 years off of 3 crops of kids which can be done than he can make in 2 years of leasing to hunters. I would have never believed this until I sat down and figured it out. Of course having hunters and raising livestock is the ideal situation for the landowner.
TO keep the goats out, buy the 4 inch bull wire panels and use them instead of just normal fencing and enclose your feeders area with this. It comes in heights that goats cannot clear. Do not buy the 6 inch bull wire, because they can get their horns through there and then they are stuck. If you use normal wire fencing, you have to stretch it and dig holes for posts and all of that. For the bullwire, just buy or make a T post driver and drive T posts into the ground and wire the bullwire to them and you are done.
+1  Goats will eat the same browse your deer like and they will eat higher up on the plants. Your rancher needs to keep their numbers within reasonable limits.
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 03:53 PM
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According to my BIL nothing worse than removing a dead, rotting goat from your feeder pen after it has managed to get in, get stuck and died !
Texas Heat, feeder pen, dead goat and beer - PRICELESS
Still laughing about that one !!
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 04:00 PM
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Goats are no fad. They have been around since Moby Dick was a minnow. They do not take much to survive. You eliminate a few predators and you can have a 150% kids crop of 3 kiddings in 2 years. Do the math and see for yourself. Like you said, no fad at all, they are being slaughtered and shipped to the middle east at a good price.
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 04:03 PM
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 05:41 PM
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I know the existence of the goat is not a fad. They didn't materialize out of thin air 15 years ago or anything. I'm saying the meat goats will not become the next major food source for the U.S. JMO of course. I've yet to see goat in the meat counter at United, I don't think burger king is sellin a goat burger. I'm saying the meat craze is a fad. I don't think it will keep up much longer. I'm not a goat hater by anymeans, my family made their living off hair goats back in the days when hair goats were a viable means of income. I do not care what they are used for. My point was that you can make more money off of goats in 2 years than you can off of hunting in 2 years. With that in mind, you need to keep the rancher happy and not be shooting up his goats. If he has to choose, the goats make him more money and they never shoot up the place and they never give him any lip. So, if the rancher has to choose, you get the boot and the goats stay.
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Re: GOAT PROOF
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09/15/09 10:58 PM
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A man who raises goats told me that to cattle and horses a fence is a barrier-to a goat,it's a challenge!
My dad told me the way to determine if a fence would keep goats in or out is to build a fence and throw a bucket of water against it.
If any water goes through, a goat can get out (or in)!
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