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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
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07/25/24 01:04 AM
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The rifle had a collapsible stoxk. FBI seems to think that made it invisible.
Shoot. Eat. Repeat.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
#9081240
07/25/24 01:11 AM
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Must have been a hell of a back pack 8” with folder barely fits in 20” backpack which is normal size or actually a little bigger. A 16” with folding stock still measures 26” from back of receiver to A2 flash hider add 1 inch +\- for the adapter it would have to be a rifle case or maybe a huge hiking backpack. Again I haven’t see any pictures of him with a backpack.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: KRoyal]
#9081262
07/25/24 01:57 AM
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Must have been a hell of a back pack 8” with folder barely fits in 20” backpack which is normal size or actually a little bigger. A 16” with folding stock still measures 26” from back of receiver to A2 flash hider add 1 inch +\- for the adapter it would have to be a rifle case or maybe a huge hiking backpack. Again I haven’t see any pictures of him with a backpack. I assume he took out two pins and had the upper and lower laying side by side in a backpack.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: ntxtrapper]
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07/25/24 02:04 AM
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Must have been a hell of a back pack 8” with folder barely fits in 20” backpack which is normal size or actually a little bigger. A 16” with folding stock still measures 26” from back of receiver to A2 flash hider add 1 inch +\- for the adapter it would have to be a rifle case or maybe a huge hiking backpack. Again I haven’t see any pictures of him with a backpack. I assume he took out two pins and had the upper and lower laying side by side in a backpack. That’s literally the same length. 16” barrel with A2 flash hider to back of the receiver still 26”.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
#9081275
07/25/24 02:08 AM
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But, we should trust the FBI. They would never come after our guns, they are only here to protect us, they are not our enemy. Surely you are paranoid.
Joshua 1:9
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
#9081281
07/25/24 02:21 AM
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They admitted they saw him and then lost him in the crowd. This would carry one that was in two pieces and might have been what they thought looked wrong. https://www.ebay.com/itm/325997702419
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: ntxtrapper]
#9081307
07/25/24 03:34 AM
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They admitted they saw him and then lost him in the crowd. This would carry one that was in two pieces and might have been what they thought looked wrong. https://www.ebay.com/itm/325997702419Absolutely, let me just get this back pack on top of this roof right here from my ladder I just bought from Home Depot. 150 yards from president Trump no problem Guaranteed if SS was actually doing their job. He’d stick out like a sore thumb like this Chinese gent you linked below. If you saw him walking through a trump crowd carrying this backpack, oh and also a ladder, would you have stopped him?
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
#9081308
07/25/24 03:35 AM
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But yea he looks super inconspicuous lol.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
#9081309
07/25/24 03:36 AM
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According to Bongino kid didn’t have ladder. Ladder was from police after the fact to access roof. Kid climbed ac unit to access.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Birddogger]
#9081310
07/25/24 03:38 AM
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According to Bongino kid didn’t have ladder. Ladder was from police after the fact to access roof. Kid climbed ac unit to access. They have receipt of kid buying a ladder. From what I’ve saw he didnt need a ladder to get on the roof.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
#9081311
07/25/24 03:39 AM
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You would think after 10 days and two days of hearings, we would have some answers.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: ntxtrapper]
#9081312
07/25/24 03:42 AM
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Must have been a hell of a back pack 8” with folder barely fits in 20” backpack which is normal size or actually a little bigger. A 16” with folding stock still measures 26” from back of receiver to A2 flash hider add 1 inch +\- for the adapter it would have to be a rifle case or maybe a huge hiking backpack. Again I haven’t see any pictures of him with a backpack. I assume he took out two pins and had the upper and lower laying side by side in a backpack. I think we got off on a tangent. If he had a huge backpack and took down the gun into 2 pieces why is FBI director worried so much about the “collapsible” stock.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: KRoyal]
#9081317
07/25/24 04:08 AM
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ntxtrapper
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According to Bongino kid didn’t have ladder. Ladder was from police after the fact to access roof. Kid climbed ac unit to access. They have receipt of kid buying a ladder. From what I’ve saw he didnt need a ladder to get on the roof. He apparently changed his mind about the ladder and didn’t bring it. They think he climbed up from a hvac unit.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: ntxtrapper]
#9081380
07/25/24 12:32 PM
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According to Bongino kid didn’t have ladder. Ladder was from police after the fact to access roof. Kid climbed ac unit to access. They have receipt of kid buying a ladder. From what I’ve saw he didnt need a ladder to get on the roof. He apparently changed his mind about the ladder and didn’t bring it. They think he climbed up from a hvac unit. From the pictures displayed and Wrays report, he used the condenser unit and "exterior pipes" the refrigerant lines to access roof. It is suspect he planted the rifle one or two days before the rally. There is appears to be ample foliage available.
If the 2nd amendment was written just to include guns for hunting, why is there not an amendment to protect fishing poles?
Never trust a man that doesn't trust you.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Lazyjack]
#9081383
07/25/24 12:43 PM
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According to Bongino kid didn’t have ladder. Ladder was from police after the fact to access roof. Kid climbed ac unit to access. They have receipt of kid buying a ladder. From what I’ve saw he didnt need a ladder to get on the roof. He apparently changed his mind about the ladder and didn’t bring it. They think he climbed up from a hvac unit. From the pictures displayed and Wrays report, he used the condenser unit and "exterior pipes" the refrigerant lines to access roof. It is suspect he planted the rifle one or two days before the rally. There is appears to be ample foliage available. That makes sense. He was flying a drone there a couple of days before so it wasn’t as haphazard an attempt as first reported.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
#9081401
07/25/24 01:31 PM
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His search history included " How far was Oswald from Kennedy".
If the 2nd amendment was written just to include guns for hunting, why is there not an amendment to protect fishing poles?
Never trust a man that doesn't trust you.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Lazyjack]
#9081405
07/25/24 01:38 PM
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According to Bongino kid didn’t have ladder. Ladder was from police after the fact to access roof. Kid climbed ac unit to access. They have receipt of kid buying a ladder. From what I’ve saw he didnt need a ladder to get on the roof. He apparently changed his mind about the ladder and didn’t bring it. They think he climbed up from a hvac unit. From the pictures displayed and Wrays report, he used the condenser unit and "exterior pipes" the refrigerant lines to access roof. It is suspect he planted the rifle one or two days before the rally. There is appears to be ample foliage available. Why would he go through all that trouble when there was a ladder right there? I don't believe half of what the SS is saying and even less of what the FBI is saying.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
#9081412
07/25/24 01:50 PM
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How do you suppose the response team, and suits got up there? The elevator.... come on man....
Last edited by S.A. hunter; 07/25/24 01:55 PM.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
#9081424
07/25/24 02:12 PM
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We should care less about information on the who and how and start looking for the why. This thing stinks from start to finish, there will never be a good reason for how, and the who, we can only guess at because he apparently was just looking for 15 minutes of fame. I have been on too many tactical ops to believe that this just "occurred because of the venue location". This was either total incompetence or something more dark and evil, either way there is absolutely No Way Trump should have been allowed on that stage. Funny, I keep thinking back to Trump being led off the stage and it strikes me as so odd that the chosen detail (Group of protection officer) has no possible way to protect Trump simply from their lack of height alone. Trump's upper is exposed numerous times during that process and then getting into the vehicle, and that takes me back to JFK in Dallas with the Assassin getting off all his shots because the SS were all riding in a vehicle behind the president and just did not have time to take action or failed to react...How did anyone know there wasn't a second shooter in PA before escorting Trump off the stage and further exposing him?
Last edited by Concho; 07/25/24 02:24 PM.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
#9081434
07/25/24 02:39 PM
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Nobody knows it yet except the perps and the FBI.
"If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under." Ronald Reagan
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
#9081436
07/25/24 02:42 PM
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ntxtrapper
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Kyle, The majority of commercial structures I have been to, have a locked security cage at the bottom of a roof access ladder. It’s to keep burglars off the roof as well as dumb kids from trying to climb up it and getting hurt.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: ntxtrapper]
#9081438
07/25/24 02:45 PM
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Kyle, The majority of commercial structures I have been to, have a locked security cage at the bottom of a roof access ladder. It’s to keep burglars off the roof as well as dumb kids from trying to climb up it and getting hurt. I agree, I'm just saying to me it would be easier to climb over the security cage and up the ladder than using an AC unit and shimmying my way on exposed pipes to gain roof access.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: ntxtrapper]
#9081440
07/25/24 02:48 PM
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S.A. hunter
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Kyle, The majority of commercial structures I have been to, have a locked security cage at the bottom of a roof access ladder. It’s to keep burglars off the roof as well as dumb kids from trying to climb up it and getting hurt. They don't usually have those on single story buildings.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Concho]
#9081446
07/25/24 03:02 PM
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We should care less about information on the who and how and start looking for the why. This thing stinks from start to finish, there will never be a good reason for how, and the who, we can only guess at because he apparently was just looking for 15 minutes of fame. I have been on too many tactical ops to believe that this just "occurred because of the venue location". This was either total incompetence or something more dark and evil, either way there is absolutely No Way Trump should have been allowed on that stage. Funny, I keep thinking back to Trump being led off the stage and it strikes me as so odd that the chosen detail (Group of protection officer) has no possible way to protect Trump simply from their lack of height alone. Trump's upper is exposed numerous times during that process and then getting into the vehicle, and that takes me back to JFK in Dallas with the Assassin getting off all his shots because the SS were all riding in a vehicle behind the president and just did not have time to take action or failed to react...How did anyone know there wasn't a second shooter in PA before escorting Trump off the stage and further exposing him? It stinks alright, it’s sad when we can’t trust our government agencies to tell us the truth, “ that we pay for” especially the FBI. There was a failed assassination attempt, FJB resigns, if they would have killed Trump, would he have resigned?
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Texas452]
#9081451
07/25/24 03:14 PM
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Concho
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We should care less about information on the who and how and start looking for the why. This thing stinks from start to finish, there will never be a good reason for how, and the who, we can only guess at because he apparently was just looking for 15 minutes of fame. I have been on too many tactical ops to believe that this just "occurred because of the venue location". This was either total incompetence or something more dark and evil, either way there is absolutely No Way Trump should have been allowed on that stage. Funny, I keep thinking back to Trump being led off the stage and it strikes me as so odd that the chosen detail (Group of protection officer) has no possible way to protect Trump simply from their lack of height alone. Trump's upper is exposed numerous times during that process and then getting into the vehicle, and that takes me back to JFK in Dallas with the Assassin getting off all his shots because the SS were all riding in a vehicle behind the president and just did not have time to take action or failed to react...How did anyone know there wasn't a second shooter in PA before escorting Trump off the stage and further exposing him? It stinks alright, it’s sad when we can’t trust our government agencies to tell us the truth, “ that we pay for” especially the FBI. There was a failed assassination attempt, FJB resigns, if they would have killed Trump, would he have resigned? Strange how Joe resigns in almost perfect timing to suck out all the media coverage from the attempted assassination...they (Whomever they are, and we will probably never know) forced Joe from the race, the same people have gone after Trump since he came down the escalator, Russian Hoax, Impeachment, Prosecutions, States removing Trump from ballots.
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