I'm not familiar with the e trace. how can I find out that fast what gun you own if they don't collect that data when they do a background check?

Our best bet to win is if they leave him on the ticket. If they run someone who isn't a vegetable, we will be in trouble.

I want Joe to stay in and be humiliated by Trump with a landslide victory.

I want Joe to stay in and be humiliated by Trump with a landslide victory.

Yeah, how convenient. Doubt he has Covid, they just need to hide him for awhile.

When a FFL licensee no longer has their license, the 4473's are sent in and scanned into the eTrace database. The NTC receives an average of 1.2 million out-of-business records per month.

I heard if he leaves the race, that Kamala would have to walk away too for their campaign money to be used by another candidate, but I could be wrong.

X2 big time!

They keep the 4473’s for “up to 20 years”. It’s in the Brady Bill. Been that way since 1993.

That means they have a record of every single transfer for “up to 20 years.”

I am willing to bet no one is clearing out the old records. It’s literally like doing a google search on the digital records, if google could narrow it down to the exact one thing you are looking for.

It’s too much if you ask me.

An emergency eTrace identified his dad as buying the AR. The eTrace takes about a minute to complete. His dad led to him being identified.

The 4473 stays with the licensee. Currently, the ATF now requires that FFLs keep the 4473 for as long as the FFL is in business and licensed.

FFLs that are in business longer than 20 years, allows for records that are 20 years old to be stored off-site in a warehouse.

If they lose their FFL, see my previous post.

This is correct.

You guys really think they don’t keep a record? You really think the FBI does not have records of every background check submitted for 20 years?

They literally visit FFL holders to update the FBI database with the forms. They keep track of all the transfers.

How else do they track a transfer down in 1 minute?

We had eTrace on our desktops. I know how it works. The serial number isn’t provided on a NIC with the FBI. IOI conducts compliance inspections at the premises of licensees. They don’t bring a scanner and electronically load 4473’s. I have been present for plenty of inspections. In this case the dealer that sold dad the AR went out of business so the forms were sent to the NTC so it was immediately available on eTrace. If the dealer had still been in business, it would have been a long involved process starting with the wholesaler who purchased it from the manufacturer. I don’t know where you are getting your information from but it’s not correct.

We had eTrace on our desktops. I know how it works. The serial number isn’t provided on a NIC with the FBI. IOI conducts compliance inspections at the premises of licensees. They don’t bring a scanner and electronically load 4473’s. I have been present for plenty of inspections. In this case the dealer that sold dad the AR went out of business so the forms were sent to the NTC so it was immediately available on eTrace. If the dealer had still been in business, it would have been a long involved process starting with the wholesaler who purchased it from the manufacturer. I don’t know where you are getting your information from but it’s not correct.

WOW! Balls of steel on the Republican Senators that confronted the head of SS at the convention. I just saw the video with full audio on FOX News. This will hit the fan today. They hit her with hard questions and she did what this administration always does, stonewalls and hope they can ride it out and people forget. There are so many similar incidents over the last 3.5 years that we just quit asking about.

Why in the world did she even go there?

Shows you how entitled people that are DEI'd into positions are. She didn't even have the self awareness to realize what an awful position she is in and how it was (IMO) disrespectful for her to be there.

I was a guest at a dinner for about 100 people at my sisters' house. The Speaker of the House was guest of honor and Senate Minority Leader was in attendance as well. The SS and Capitol Police advance planning was serious. I had a casual conversation with the minority leaders detail.

My opinion, for what it's worth: Agents on the ground would die for whoever they are assigned to. The advanced planning, # of layers, and overall attention and priority given to the principal isn't on them. That's on the way up's that are in charge at high levels. Dem's are guilty of intentional neglect that lead to this.

I thought the dad bought the gun 6 months ago. Did the gun store already go out of business?

So you are going to tell me, right here in the public forum for everyone to see, that the FBI does not visit current FFL holders that are still in business, and scan and keep records of transfers? I really don’t care what type of law enforcement experience you have or how to try to explain it, the FBI today in 2024 does this.

I don’t have a foil hat.

It’s not a conspiracy.