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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
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07/15/24 04:56 PM
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.300 Win mag for the SS
did shooter have a bi pod on his AR?
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Roll-Tide]
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07/15/24 05:00 PM
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I thought I saw somewhere that a SS sniper shot him from 488 yards. If you believe any of these reports. I just don’t think tripod guy shot him. Just my opinion. I mean no disrespect, but those two guys on the roof in plain view do not resemble any preplanned counter sniper team set-up I have ever witnessed, and I've been involved in many. Maybe the SS does tactical operations differently, but much of my training came from the FEDs or retired FED so, I'm thinking we all do it the same. This entire operation looks rag-tag and uncoordinated, and a former SS team member who covered four presidents just confirmed on TV that the SS would have control of the entire operation. A Counter Sniper Team being hidden several hundred yards away would make more sense to me; these rooftops could have been occupied and secured by local police or armed observers/team members.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
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07/15/24 05:01 PM
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I’ve tried to look at the shooters Rifle. I couldn’t see a scope or red dot. 🔴 Surely he had a red dot at minimum.
Just no real good pictures of his rifle.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Concho]
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07/15/24 05:01 PM
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I thought I saw somewhere that a SS sniper shot him from 488 yards. If you believe any of these reports. I just don’t think tripod guy shot him. Just my opinion. I mean no disrespect, but those two guys on the roof in plain view do not resemble any preplanned counter sniper team set-up I have ever witnessed, and I've been involved in many. Maybe the SS does tactical operations differently, but much of my training came from the FEDs or retired FED so, I'm thinking we all do it the same. This entire operation looks rag-tag and uncoordinated, and a former SS team member who covered four presidents just confirmed on TV that the SS would have control of the entire operation. A Counter Sniper Team being hidden several hundred yards away would make more sense to me; these rooftops could have been occupied and secured by local police or armed observers/team members. Many of them were replacements due to some having to cover jill.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: bigbob_ftw]
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07/15/24 05:06 PM
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Concho
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I thought I saw somewhere that a SS sniper shot him from 488 yards. If you believe any of these reports. I just don’t think tripod guy shot him. Just my opinion. I mean no disrespect, but those two guys on the roof in plain view do not resemble any preplanned counter sniper team set-up I have ever witnessed, and I've been involved in many. Maybe the SS does tactical operations differently, but much of my training came from the FEDs or retired FED so, I'm thinking we all do it the same. This entire operation looks rag-tag and uncoordinated, and a former SS team member who covered four presidents just confirmed on TV that the SS would have control of the entire operation. A Counter Sniper Team being hidden several hundred yards away would make more sense to me; these rooftops could have been occupied and secured by local police or armed observers/team members. Many of them were replacements due to some having to cover jill. I do not doubt that information...
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: bigbob_ftw]
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07/15/24 05:07 PM
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I thought I saw somewhere that a SS sniper shot him from 488 yards. If you believe any of these reports. I just don’t think tripod guy shot him. Just my opinion. I mean no disrespect, but those two guys on the roof in plain view do not resemble any preplanned counter sniper team set-up I have ever witnessed, and I've been involved in many. Maybe the SS does tactical operations differently, but much of my training came from the FEDs or retired FED so, I'm thinking we all do it the same. This entire operation looks rag-tag and uncoordinated, and a former SS team member who covered four presidents just confirmed on TV that the SS would have control of the entire operation. A Counter Sniper Team being hidden several hundred yards away would make more sense to me; these rooftops could have been occupied and secured by local police or armed observers/team members. Many of them were replacements due to some having to cover jill. Why is Jill having a rally? She wasn't elected.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
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07/15/24 05:10 PM
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Concho
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Is the SS that short on manpower? The government has spent enough taxpayer money to finance 10,000 SS SWAT Teams / Protection Details.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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07/15/24 05:17 PM
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.300 Win mag for the SS
did shooter have a bi pod on his AR? Wouldn’t a 300WM canoe that guy’s entire head?
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
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07/15/24 05:40 PM
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“The Pennsylvania man who attempted to assassinate President Donald Trump during a rally on Saturday tried out for his high school’s rifle team, but was rejected for making “off-color” jokes — and being a “terrible” shot.“ The team at Bethel Park shoots Anschutz single-shot rifles with peep sights and .22-caliber ammunition, Jameson Murphy and another former student explained. The shooting range at the school is 50 feet long by 21 feet wide, with seven ranges. Crooks once fired from the seventh lane — the closest to the right wall — and hit the left wall, completely missing every target on the back wall. He missed his target by close to 20 feet, Murphy recalled. “He tried out … and was such a comically bad shot, he was unable to make the team and left after the first day,” https://nypost.com/2024/07/14/us-ne...s-rejected-for-being-comically-bad-shot/
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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07/15/24 05:44 PM
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Only seen blurry pictures of the assassin's rifle. Did it have a bi-pod?
I know everyone on here could make the shot without any front or rear support.
But in real life, its a hard shot especially shooting at a human target not a hunk of steel.
Shooter pointed his rifle at the cop, cop got outta there ASAP
This hurried the shooter into shooting fast. I heard he didn't even have a scope. Can't confirm. But if that is true, he was using the wrong setup. I can't speak for everyone here, but if I am shooting at 130 yards or more, I'd have a hard time connecting with a 4-5 inch target with irons. With a scope, no problem. But with Irons, problem.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: ntxtrapper]
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07/15/24 05:54 PM
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Concho
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“The Pennsylvania man who attempted to assassinate President Donald Trump during a rally on Saturday tried out for his high school’s rifle team, but was rejected for making “off-color” jokes — and being a “terrible” shot.“ The team at Bethel Park shoots Anschutz single-shot rifles with peep sights and .22-caliber ammunition, Jameson Murphy and another former student explained. The shooting range at the school is 50 feet long by 21 feet wide, with seven ranges. Crooks once fired from the seventh lane — the closest to the right wall — and hit the left wall, completely missing every target on the back wall. He missed his target by close to 20 feet, Murphy recalled. “He tried out … and was such a comically bad shot, he was unable to make the team and left after the first day,” https://nypost.com/2024/07/14/us-ne...s-rejected-for-being-comically-bad-shot/Aren't they all poor shots, early twenties, white male loners?
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: unclebubba]
#9076535
07/15/24 06:01 PM
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Only seen blurry pictures of the assassin's rifle. Did it have a bi-pod?
I know everyone on here could make the shot without any front or rear support.
But in real life, its a hard shot especially shooting at a human target not a hunk of steel.
Shooter pointed his rifle at the cop, cop got outta there ASAP
This hurried the shooter into shooting fast. I heard he didn't even have a scope. Can't confirm. But if that is true, he was using the wrong setup. I can't speak for everyone here, but if I am shooting at 130 yards or more, I'd have a hard time connecting with a 4-5 inch target with irons. With a scope, no problem. But with Irons, problem. I hit pretty consistent with my SBR 556 and red dot at 200 yards, but I know the hold through trial and error on a 1/3 IPSC target. Would be much harder on a 4-5 inch target especially moving, I probably couldn't do it. Open sights for me? No way.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: KRoyal]
#9076541
07/15/24 06:08 PM
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unclebubba
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Only seen blurry pictures of the assassin's rifle. Did it have a bi-pod?
I know everyone on here could make the shot without any front or rear support.
But in real life, its a hard shot especially shooting at a human target not a hunk of steel.
Shooter pointed his rifle at the cop, cop got outta there ASAP
This hurried the shooter into shooting fast. I heard he didn't even have a scope. Can't confirm. But if that is true, he was using the wrong setup. I can't speak for everyone here, but if I am shooting at 130 yards or more, I'd have a hard time connecting with a 4-5 inch target with irons. With a scope, no problem. But with Irons, problem. I hit pretty consistent with my SBR 556 and red dot at 200 yards, but I know the hold through trial and error on a 1/3 IPSC target. Would be much harder on a 4-5 inch target especially moving, I probably couldn't do it. Open sights for me? No way. Exactly. On a live target (for me, deer, pigs, and coyotes) 130 yards with irons or red dot, I am shooting for center mass because I would probably miss a head shot.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
#9076547
07/15/24 06:19 PM
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He was young, inexperienced and heart was probably pumping pretty good. Iron sights would be a tough headshot for him. He outsmarted SS, but couldn’t get a cheap red dot ? Or 50 dollar scope?
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Roll-Tide]
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07/15/24 06:22 PM
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ntxtrapper
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He was young, inexperienced and heart was probably pumping pretty good. Iron sights would be a tough headshot for him. He outsmarted SS, but couldn’t get a cheap red dot ? Or 50 dollar scope? What he had probably worked just fine for defeating whole armies on his video game.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: stinkbelly]
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07/15/24 06:24 PM
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I thought I saw somewhere that a SS sniper shot him from 488 yards. If you believe any of these reports. I just don’t think tripod guy shot him. Just my opinion. I mean no disrespect, but those two guys on the roof in plain view do not resemble any preplanned counter sniper team set-up I have ever witnessed, and I've been involved in many. Maybe the SS does tactical operations differently, but much of my training came from the FEDs or retired FED so, I'm thinking we all do it the same. This entire operation looks rag-tag and uncoordinated, and a former SS team member who covered four presidents just confirmed on TV that the SS would have control of the entire operation. A Counter Sniper Team being hidden several hundred yards away would make more sense to me; these rooftops could have been occupied and secured by local police or armed observers/team members. Many of them were replacements due to some having to cover jill. Why is Jill having a rally? She wasn't elected. Because fjb can’t draw a dozen people.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
#9076562
07/15/24 06:42 PM
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So when do the riots begin?
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: psycho0819]
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07/15/24 06:47 PM
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So when do the riots begin? Soon I hope,
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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07/15/24 06:54 PM
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So when do the riots begin? Soon I hope, Conservatives don't riot.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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07/15/24 06:55 PM
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So when do the riots begin? Soon I hope, Antifa just showed up at the convention.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
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07/15/24 07:05 PM
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I believe in science and I’m an insufferable [censored] Actually, BBC is pretty damn good "You Cannot Simultaneously Be Politically Correct And Intellectually Honest!"
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
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07/15/24 07:07 PM
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I believe in science and I’m an insufferable [censored] Actually, BBC is pretty damn good "You Cannot Simultaneously Be Politically Correct And Intellectually Honest!"
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: bigbob_ftw]
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07/15/24 07:07 PM
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So when do the riots begin? Soon I hope, Antifa just showed up at the convention. Oh, great.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Bullfrog]
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07/15/24 07:48 PM
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.300 Win mag for the SS
did shooter have a bi pod on his AR? Wouldn’t a 300WM canoe that guy’s entire head? Unless they have changed, Secret Service Snipers are chambered in 7mm Rem Mag.
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