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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
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07/14/24 09:24 PM
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Only question did this happen because of incompetence or because they let it happen.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Texas452]
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07/14/24 09:28 PM
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Sniper looked like he thought he was the target by the way he jumped. That didn’t look good. Thats the way I see it. Didnt seem to even get a shot off. Either of them. Both seemed scared to death.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
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07/14/24 09:50 PM
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Something is wrong when a Capitol Police Lieutenant shoots an unarmed intruder with impunity but a Secret Service protection detail waits until shots are fired at President Trump before eliminating the threat.
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Re: Trump shot!
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07/14/24 10:06 PM
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Judging from the reaction of the people behind him the attack came from the left hand side of the stage. If it came from the crowd in front there would be victims behind him. I watched it on the news, wasn’t watching it live but from the replay it looks like he grabs his ear before he heard the super sonic crack so I’m guessing the shooter was not in the stands he was pretty far off. I also noticed that Trump moved his head just a little right before the shot pretty sure his head movement saved his life. He was a little stationary before he moved and I think the shooter took the shot but Trump moved his head. Good eyes Kyle, watched it after reading this and you are right. Then saw this video today. Shot from the left Trump turned to his right Yea I called that from the very beginning as soon as I saw it. Crazy the news stations were saying he was hit by glass for the longest time.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
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07/14/24 10:11 PM
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saying the shooter was in the rifle club at school
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Nathan at Fork]
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07/14/24 10:17 PM
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Only question did this happen because of incompetence or because they let it happen. FWIW I worked with a lot of secret service agents and every single one of them spoke of the republican protectees as being kind, considerate, thoughtful people. They all said democrats treated them like slaves.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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07/14/24 10:22 PM
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Sniper looked like he thought he was the target by the way he jumped. That didn’t look good. Thats the way I see it. Didnt seem to even get a shot off. Either of them. Both seemed scared to death. I thought he flinched because the other guy fired first and it startled him. By the time he gathered himself the shooter was done. It is a bit hard to tell due the sound delay due to distance from the camera.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: ntxtrapper]
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07/14/24 10:24 PM
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Only question did this happen because of incompetence or because they let it happen. FWIW I worked with a lot of secret service agents and every single one of them spoke of the republican protectees as being kind, considerate, thoughtful people. They all said democrats treated them like slaves. Why is this not the least bit surprising….. every democrap I know is full of anger and hate…even my sister who has cancelled us because we support Trump! You know…the party of peace, love, and kindness unless you dare think differently than them.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
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07/14/24 10:27 PM
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I'm still confused about the grandstand set up. Where in the stands were the people sitting who were shot? One was hit in the head, one in the torso and the young man was grazed on his neck.
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Re: Trump shot!
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07/14/24 10:28 PM
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Only question did this happen because of incompetence or because they let it happen. FWIW I worked with a lot of secret service agents and every single one of them spoke of the republican protectees as being kind, considerate, thoughtful people. They all said democrats treated them like slaves. When asked "Who are they" by one of her young friends Chelsea Clinton answered, "They're my hired pigs". The agent took issue with the young child having such disrespect for him and told her, "I'm here to protect you and would lay down my life saving you, why do you call me such a bad name?" Her answer, "That's what my parents say you are". The Secret Service were not allowed to make eye contact with Hillary, and one was dismissed for getting that wrong. They were awful, the worst to work for. To have such a noble calling to do a very important and patriotic job and be totally disrespected for it has to be discouraging to say the least.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
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07/14/24 10:33 PM
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No way to know just from the video, but it looked to me like he could see something that didn’t look right so he got down on the rifle. Bad guy shoots and he had to move the tripod to the right because of an obstruction partially blocked his line of sight. There’s not enough information though to do anything but speculate right now.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
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07/14/24 10:51 PM
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
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07/14/24 10:55 PM
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Biden and all Democrats are making their public statements condemning the attempted assassination of Donald Trump and this type of violence that should not happen in the USA in Politics but in my opinion although it was a failed attempt at former President Trump, I still believe without any reservation the Democratic Party and it’s controlled media are 100% guilty of this escalating to this point. Our Democratic Government and media has allowed( and administered) the attacks on Trump to continue for 10 years which have continually gotten worse and worse to keep him out of the Election and discourage him from running. The blood of this despicable act lays directly on the Democratic Party who have shown they will stop at nothing to attack Trump. Not sure the Dems can find enough ballots to fill out this time to save themselves this time after this. I do believe there are always individuals who take it upon themselves to do these things but it has gotten to this point through the acts of Soros, Obama, Pelosi, Schumer, Nadler and the many others who support the destruction of our country as long as they get what they want. There is Red brewing now like never before. I’m so sick of what our country is turning into and I’m not afraid to speak out about it. I just hope all of us supposedly silent majority will get up and defend this country before it’s too late. November is coming!!! Not soon enough
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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07/14/24 10:59 PM
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Only question did this happen because of incompetence or because they let it happen. FWIW I worked with a lot of secret service agents and every single one of them spoke of the republican protectees as being kind, considerate, thoughtful people. They all said democrats treated them like slaves. When asked "Who are they" by one of her young friends Chelsea Clinton answered, "They're my hired pigs". The agent took issue with the young child having such disrespect for him and told her, "I'm here to protect you and would lay down my life saving you, why do you call me such a bad name?" Her answer, "That's what my parents say you are". The Secret Service were not allowed to make eye contact with Hillary, and one was dismissed for getting that wrong. They were awful, the worst to work for. To have such a noble calling to do a very important and patriotic job and be totally disrespected for it has to be discouraging to say the least. I watched something about this some years back, the Clinton’s, especially Hillary are terrible people, most democrats I know are not good people, their greedy and always looking for something free.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: KRoyal]
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07/14/24 11:07 PM
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Hilarious if you read that in a Donald Trump accent.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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07/14/24 11:35 PM
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I'm still confused about the grandstand set up. Where in the stands were the people sitting who were shot? One was hit in the head, one in the torso and the young man was grazed on his neck. From some of the wide angle video I have seen there was 3 sets of bleachers. Left, right, and center stage. One diagram I saw showed one victim was in the bleachers to the left of the stage but not sure how accurate that was. I would have thought the bleachers to the right of the stage would have been the ones more in the line of fire. In some of the video you can see what looks like blood soaked clothing or something in the bleachers to the left of the stage though. I would be surprised if anyone in the center stage bleachers were hit though.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
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07/14/24 11:51 PM
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I feel like any career government employee is left leaning if they admit it or not. Truth is the truth. No rational person can be totally independent.
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Re: Trump shot!
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07/15/24 12:06 AM
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I feel like any career government employee is left leaning if they admit it or not. Truth is the truth. No rational person can be totally independent. I have a lot of experience that the opposite is true. The boots on the ground agents are disgusted with the upper administrators of these agencies because they know the administrators are just politicians who have sold out to the left.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
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07/15/24 12:13 AM
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Re: Trump shot!
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07/15/24 12:18 AM
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I'm still confused about the grandstand set up. Where in the stands were the people sitting who were shot? One was hit in the head, one in the torso and the young man was grazed on his neck. From some of the wide angle video I have seen there was 3 sets of bleachers. Left, right, and center stage. One diagram I saw showed one victim was in the bleachers to the left of the stage but not sure how accurate that was. I would have thought the bleachers to the right of the stage would have been the ones more in the line of fire. In some of the video you can see what looks like blood soaked clothing or something in the bleachers to the left of the stage though. I would be surprised if anyone in the center stage bleachers were hit though. The first shot was the only real shot he got off, after that he was just shooting.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: ntxtrapper]
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07/15/24 12:23 AM
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I feel like any career government employee is left leaning if they admit it or not. Truth is the truth. No rational person can be totally independent. I have a lot of experience that the opposite is true. The boots on the ground agents are disgusted with the upper administrators of these agencies because they know the administrators are just politicians who have sold out to the left. I disagree with that, it seems the longer they’re employed by the government the more dependent they are on the government. It’s even got to the point where older retired people think they are dependent on the government, which is the way government wants it.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
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07/15/24 12:29 AM
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Just east of Sallisaw, OK on I40. Took the photo today.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
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07/15/24 12:36 AM
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I need a 2024 banner, but I wanted to show support today. The neighbors loved it.
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Re: Trump shot!
[Re: Guy]
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07/15/24 12:38 AM
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Re: Trump shot!
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07/15/24 12:46 AM
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I feel like any career government employee is left leaning if they admit it or not. Truth is the truth. No rational person can be totally independent. I have a lot of experience that the opposite is true. The boots on the ground agents are disgusted with the upper administrators of these agencies because they know the administrators are just politicians who have sold out to the left. I disagree with that, it seems the longer they’re employed by the government the more dependent they are on the government. It’s even got to the point where older retired people think they are dependent on the government, which is the way government wants it. I worked hundreds of cases with them for a decade and supervised federally commissions task force detectives for years. Everyone in my gang unit was dual commission with HSI. The field agents were die hard republicans. The senior field agents spoke of anyone over the rank SAC or RAC with much disdain. That's just my experience on the subject.
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