I'm assuming your talking about this scope below. That is their older style turrets. It has all the desired features for a good tactical/hunting rig. It's mil, FFP and I do like their TMR reticle. The turrets are ok, but a little mushy and spin easy. So, if you are hunting with it, you'll have to keep an eye on the turret to make sure it has not spun and dialed you off zero. It's on clearance, so it's not a bad deal.

I only have one Leupold scope, and it's a VX-7 (when they made them) and I like it a lot. I have it on a hunting rifle and It has collapsible turrets, which lock the turrets from spinning. I have no complaints on it. And as a lot of shooters say, "the glass is great!"


https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1362369641?pid=484450

Over the years Ive gone from a pretty die hard Zeiss guy... to an almost exclusively Leupold guy... to recently back to being a Zeiss guy...

At full retail price point, I think there are better options out there right now than the mid to high line Leupolds for the same amount of money...

That said, if youre eligible for their VIP program (public servant, active military, veteran, or shooting/hunting industry professional).. you can get most of their stuff for about 40% off of MSRP when you buy direct from Leupold.. which is roughly dealer (wholesale) price...

At the VIP price point, the VX3, VX5, VX6, etc lines are seriously good values..

That said.. if you belong to one of the discount groups like guidefitter (similar to leupold VIP.. if youre a public servant, mil, vet, industry, etc youre probably eligible).. there are some screaming good deals on swarovski, steiner, maven, and others...

I think the “majority” of the Leopold Defenders on here are out putting corn in their feeders or working.

Will never own another luppy again after this year. Having to look down the side of barrel to kill a bear is BS. They had three chances and 2/3 failures isn’t great odds

Night force and March Impact test their scopes. Certain Maven scopes have survived third party impact testing. Ironically Leupold normally fails 3rd testing, not always but it does. I saw impact testing on mark 4 the other day that looked promising.

If your scope manufacturer only recommends 18lbs of torque, why. Is the scope tube too thin?

All things mechanical fail, the rate of failure is not a guarantee of failure just a probability. I hope no one’s scope fails. Odds are if you careful it won’t, but accidents do happen.

I’ll admit I’m rough on stuff, and probably an exception to most cases

Where are you getting 18lbs? I thought it was 28?

if “your”(as in a generality) scope company only recommends 18lbs, ask why. It wasn’t specific to a certain scope company.

The subject is Leupold, and your post was referencing your Leupold. You have good reason to not recommend Leupold without inserting irrelevant data in the middle of your write up.

18 is Vortex for sure.

LOL. I am shocked the Leupold defenders never showed up on this thread.

Full disclosure, I did buy it.

I knew the risks, hopefully it works out for me.

Will never own another luppy again after this year. Having to look down the side of barrel to kill a bear is BS. They had three chances and 2/3 failures isn’t great odds

Night force and March Impact test their scopes. Certain Maven scopes have survived third party impact testing. Ironically Leupold normally fails 3rd testing, not always but it does. I saw impact testing on mark 4 the other day that looked promising.

If your scope manufacturer only recommends 18lbs of torque, why. Is the scope tube too thin?

All things mechanical fail, the rate of failure is not a guarantee of failure just a probability. I hope no one’s scope fails. Odds are if you careful it won’t, but accidents do happen.

I’ll admit I’m rough on stuff, and probably an exception to most cases

Late to the party. Not a dang thing wrong with that scope Scott. It's the OG of Leupold. Only thing it's pre-Zero-Stop. The Marines made it do for many years, no reason it won't work great for you. What are you putting it on? Pictures when done.

I am amazed at the number of folks needing a scope they can dial.
Never used one and my B&C reticle had served me well for 36 years now, Leupold has not failed us yet.

And yes we hunt wide open country that you could shoot for a long ways but why, get closer.

I may want someone to school me on this milliradian reticle to help with holdover as opposed to estimating off body size, or dialing.

I may want someone to school me on this milliradian reticle to help with holdover as opposed to estimating off body size, or dialing.

I prefer a clean reticle for hunting. Keep that junk out of your field of view. It may cover up an even bigger animal next to the one your look at; or conceal its movement just enough to loose them.
Save that stuff for sniper or precision shooting.

Scott, thanks for the good explanation of the milliradian. Maybe someday but Im afraid it would be too much for me in the heat of the moment.

Yeah. There might be a giant animal hiding behind a tiny hashmark or a dot. Freakin hilarious.

I prefer a clean reticle for hunting. Keep that junk out of your field of view. It may cover up an even bigger animal next to the one your look at; or conceal its movement just enough to loose them.
Save that stuff for sniper or precision shooting.

I've hunted in the Rockies.

I killed a bull elk on public land. I was using a Mil based scope. He was 250 yards away and broad side. I held .5 Mil on his lungs and put him down in one shot.
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I’m not talking about taking down the largest game animal in N. America; standing still while it’s broadside. You’ve seen a Whitetail in the Rockies? Had to be a rare sight there. I continue to spot, even while I shoulder my rifle (if given the time) You probably just jumped out of the truck too. Your skill and knowledge is beyond me comprehension. Hats off to ya!

I’m not talking about taking down the largest game animal in N. America; standing still while it’s broadside. You’ve seen a Whitetail in the Rockies? Had to be a rare sight there. I continue to spot, even while I shoulder my rifle (if given the time) You probably just jumped out of the truck too. Your skill and knowledge is beyond me comprehension. Hats off to ya!

That’s right; I forgot. Many folks out here have never hunted the Rocky Mountains or the Sierra Nevada mountain ranges. Cage hunt’in Flatlanders. My bad. Now, that’s hilarious

We have whitetails in the mountains, and yes I have hunted them too.
Once took a blue grouse with my 300wsm. That pesky B&C reticle actually helped, lol.

Every single deer I’ve harvest was at less than 200 yards away

I’ve killed 50 in a week from 30-75 yards with a 22-250 from a buggy or pickup truck, and your point?

Having the ability of 100% hit probably at 500 yards, isn’t something to chaise someone over, just because you won’t put in the range and wind work in.

Above timber line on Sheep can be pretty sporty, don’t know about you but I think I’d master my shooting and wind reading to make sure I didn’t waste OIL tags because I was pinned down in last day.

I've killed several hundred big game animals, and at least that many hogs. That B&C reticle is a game killing machine in the right hands, no doubt about it. I've had one on a Tikka 7mm08 for years, fueling a 140AB load 2820' at the muzzle, sighted in a 215 yds. The corresponding hashes put it dead nuts on at 300, 400, 450, and 500. Given the fact that 98% of big game animals I've killed since 1971 are at 300yds and in, it flat out works no matter what the internet says.

Yes sir, I agree 100% , lol. Who would have thought it .

Yes sir, I agree 100% , lol. Who would have thought it .

Yes sir, I agree 100% , lol. Who would have thought it .

J.G. I would never use all those hash marks on that scope, that does look a little busy to me.
But I know lots of folks that use them with extreme accuracy.

Night force and March Impact test their scopes.

Got my Mark V back on the rifle after getting it back from Leupold last week. It is holding zero now, but is .2 mil low when dialing. It was noticeable at 500, but very noticeable from 700 to 1000. I put my tall target stick up and saw it, I put paper up, shot the rifle and measured the error as well. At least I can compensate for it.