Yeah, we're not good at Making life altering decisions.........

ask ever first responder thats ever had to pull a family and kids out of a car that was killed by drunk driver, 1.5 people die ever hour on the hour 365 days a year, via dui’s. We all hate welfare and think it's BS, what about the billions spent in health care for alcohol abuse


alcohol is just like weed, sure its fine while in your home and not bothering anyone else or not beating wife or kids, or driving or running up healthcare tax bills due to liver and dependency issues but the reality is the later

Like I said I'm all for less government and individual liberties but reality is they do greatly affect individuals liberties and not in a good way.

Weed probably has more use then alcohol, But alcohol use has never made someone a better, higher functioning human

You’re talking about drinking and driving. It’s already illegal. Laws don’t stop it. More laws won’t, either.

I asked about drinking and smoking. I didn’t ask about driving.

so we dont pay any extra taxes or premiums due to alcohol abuse?


Who is a better person because of Alcohol?

Its a funny thing. Any type of vice known to man is "excused" under the guise of:

What I do in my own home is none of anyone else's business.


That is the biggest load of satanic deceit out there. It all affects someone else in some fashion or another.

“This constitution is for a moral and religious people, It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.“ John Adams


This idea of using morality to legislate is as old as time. Sorry ya hippie go back to Seattle or wherever you came from.

So who exactly is it going to effect this evening when I have a beer in my back yard after I mow the yard? Also, who is it going to effect when I take a gummy about an hour before bed to help me fall asleep and stay asleep?

You painted everyone with a very broad brush.

lol

2010 Alcohol abuse cost US citizens almost 300 billion. Now divide that out by US population….

Point isnt you or me, its the equivalent of the abusers

I ride with Sneaky.

25 years of responding to 9-1-1 calls. Seen plenty of drunks wreck very badly. Had plenty of drunks fight with us on scene and in the back of the ambulance. Saved a bunch of morons from opioid overdoses in their homes. Not ever one time have I seen someone high on marijuana give us any trouble.

Anyone that wants to save lives from automobile deaths needs to male cell phones disabled while they are traveling above a certain speed. That would make a thousand times more difference than worrying about alcohol or marijuana.

No, I totally get what you're saying Bobo. Some people just can't handle it and and are a burden on others and society. I can't handle liquor, which is why I haven't touched the stuff in a long time, I stick with beer.

But like Sneaky said, there are already laws against DUI more laws isn't going to change that. Just like more gun control laws isn't going to change the fact criminals don't care.

I was specifically asking TB who I was going to affect by having a beer in my back yard this evening or me taking a gummy to help fall asleep and stay asleep. He said, if I say it's no one's business what I do in my own home I'm somehow being satanically deceitful. I was just wondering how or who I'd be affecting by doing that.

We pay extra taxes because of politicians.

Nobody. Do you trust the government to make us better people?

These are pretty weak arguments against letting people make their own choices.

Dang right. Let’s make everything you think is morally wrong illegal. I’m not fit to make my own choices. I need a morally superior person to do it for me. You certainly fit that bill. TB for king!

That ain't no joke. Probably 7 out of 10 people I pass on the highway are on their damn phones. Drives me crazy.

I made my decision using the best medical advice I could get at the time; I usually don't go to the Internet for medical advice...guess I will pay the consequences of my choice, at least here on the THF, as will any pot smokers who get caught.

Im by no means a saint and love a good whisky way too much. Whiskey has never made me a better friend, father, husband, employee or productive member of a community.

recreational drugs have no other purpose then to alter ones reality. I dont even think Opioids should even be dispersed outside of immediate doctor supervision (example in hospital or hospice.)

I would give up some liberties if it helped just one of my friends become a better person, father, mother , etc. Alcoholism is way too prevalent to dismiss it as a small bi-product of personal liberties.

Do I care if my friends drink or smoke, no. My wife drinks. I just would never say that it doesnt intrude on to others liberties. If it went to vote, I would vote against is availability.

Id vote for this too!!

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Ben Franklin

Hope this didn’t affect anyone in a negative way

Satanic deceit... Wow, some folks on this forum sure do think of themselves as the morality police. F no, it's not Holier than Thou Buckeye's business what someone does inside their own home. If someone wants to get high, get drunk, watch porn, gamble on sports, listen to death metal, and do weird sh!t, it's not up to Texas Buckeye to determine whether they should be able to or not.

He also said, “being drunk, a very unfortunate vice”

were do you draw the line? Meth, herion, crack, cocain, opiods?

Bobo, I can see where you’re coming from but I’m not giving up any of my liberties just because others can’t control themselves.

Maybe have an alcoholic license and if you’ve ever had a DUI you’re not allowed to buy it. Would just create a black market for alcohol same as prohibition though. Alcoholics will still find a way same as drug addicts.

I think there is a better argument to over/regulate or ban alcohol than THC, but to be consistent in my argument, Id vote straight across on all drugs.

The liberties argument conveniently leaves out meth, opioids, heroin etc.

Freaking two faced, indecisive sumb***h!

You faught all of us telling you not to take the shots, and took this ^^^same stance as above.

Then you got very sick from it.

Then you said you didn't know the Paramedics weren't getting the shots, and you wish you would have known. Well you did know, but "usually don't go to the internet for medical advice". Then you later whine on the internet that you were lied to by "medical professionals".

You are a walking piece of trash. Don't stand up here and lecture people about marijuana smoking in their own homes.
It's healthier than those shots you so wisely accepted.