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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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03/11/24 10:48 PM
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HaywireHaywood
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Will there be a left handed version for the handicapped among us?
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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03/12/24 12:39 AM
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Will there be a left handed version for the handicapped among us? Eventually, sometime in 2025 after the M24s (.270/.30-06/etc) are out
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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03/12/24 06:16 PM
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From my original post:
I was incredibly impressed with the accuracy of the barrel and at this powder load the STD DEV of 5.2 seemed great. At 26.0 grains, it turned sour.
125.0 gr Hornady FMJ * # Speed (FPS) 1 2399.3
This first shot felt a bit snappy and when I inspected the fired case, the primer was pushed out slightly. I packed up my new Garmin Xero C1 chronograph and headed home.
On another reloading website, and they were talking about a different caliber 30.06 I believe, they had an issue similar to mine with the primer pushing up out of the pocket....in my case about .006. The response was not an overpressure but is typical of too much headspace with an intermediate pressure load. if I interpret it correctly, the firing pin pushes the cartridge forward, the pressure wave is enough to seal the mouth, locking it in place but not enough to expand the base....leaving a little gap between the base of the cartridge and the face of the bolt, thus pushing out the primer. Once the load approaches the higher pressures....this sort of corrects itself as the base of the case expands.
I am fairly new to reloading, in fact the only rifle cartridge I have reloaded is 300 AAC. Has anyone ever experienced this? On my WC (Starline brass) the headspace is at minimum, maybe even a .001 or .002 below minimum..... at least according to the WC combo gauge that I use. My plan is to resize the fired cases and duplicate the load that I used the first time. Any thoughts or words of wisdom are greatly appreciated.
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.”
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: DaleR]
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03/12/24 08:11 PM
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HaywireHaywood
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Just a wag.. It headspaces on the shoulder. Are you bumping the shoulder too far back on resize? Back your sizing die off some and adjust it so it's just sizing to the intersection of the neck and the shoulder. I haven't done any reloading on semi-autos though and I seem to recall that full length resizing is better for reliability.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: DaleR]
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03/12/24 11:09 PM
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From my original post:
I was incredibly impressed with the accuracy of the barrel and at this powder load the STD DEV of 5.2 seemed great. At 26.0 grains, it turned sour.
125.0 gr Hornady FMJ * # Speed (FPS) 1 2399.3
This first shot felt a bit snappy and when I inspected the fired case, the primer was pushed out slightly. I packed up my new Garmin Xero C1 chronograph and headed home.
On another reloading website, and they were talking about a different caliber 30.06 I believe, they had an issue similar to mine with the primer pushing up out of the pocket....in my case about .006. The response was not an overpressure but is typical of too much headspace with an intermediate pressure load. if I interpret it correctly, the firing pin pushes the cartridge forward, the pressure wave is enough to seal the mouth, locking it in place but not enough to expand the base....leaving a little gap between the base of the cartridge and the face of the bolt, thus pushing out the primer. Once the load approaches the higher pressures....this sort of corrects itself as the base of the case expands.
I am fairly new to reloading, in fact the only rifle cartridge I have reloaded is 300 AAC. Has anyone ever experienced this? On my WC (Starline brass) the headspace is at minimum, maybe even a .001 or .002 below minimum..... at least according to the WC combo gauge that I use. My plan is to resize the fired cases and duplicate the load that I used the first time. Any thoughts or words of wisdom are greatly appreciated. Sorry but I don't see couple of details. /what primer were you using and what powder?
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: Graycard]
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03/12/24 11:17 PM
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DaleR
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I apologize I should have included that..... CFE BLK and CCI 41 small rifle. primer (mil spec). 16" WC Recon Barrel. The published max load was 27.0 grain CFE BLK (which would reduce down to about 26.8 because of the reduced case volume of the WC (Starline) brass. FPS 2450.
Last edited by DaleR; 03/12/24 11:20 PM.
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.”
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: HaywireHaywood]
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03/12/24 11:24 PM
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DaleR
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These cases are basically full length sizing. With the new brass, I run the resizer up far enough that all I get is the neck expander to get a uniform neck tension.
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.”
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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03/26/24 12:51 PM
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Just back from a successful "management" hunt for Addax and Oryx down on the Bar JP southwest of Uvalde. I used the new 110gr Lehigh Tipped Xtreme Chaos bullets and they performed flawless. Both animals were DRT and the 55gr base fully penetrated the quartering Addax. Shots were in the 100-125yd range. My son-in-law Cam (his first EVER hunt) also took an Addax and Oryx with my .358 Win shooting 180gr Tipped Controlled Chaos, both were also DRT. He's hooked on hunting now!
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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03/26/24 03:19 PM
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onlysmith&wesson
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Just back from a successful "management" hunt for Addax and Oryx down on the Bar JP southwest of Uvalde. I used the new 110gr Lehigh Tipped Xtreme Chaos bullets and they performed flawless. Both animals were DRT and the 55gr base fully penetrated the quartering Addax. Shots were in the 100-125yd range. My son-in-law Cam (his first EVER hunt) also took an Addax and Oryx with my .358 Win shooting 180gr Tipped Controlled Chaos, both were also DRT. He's hooked on hunting now! Am I looking at 300 HAM'R, Ruger American Conversion?
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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03/26/24 04:44 PM
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Theg_man
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That Tipped 110 looks to be a fantastic HAM'R bullet. I'm thinking it might prove to be the best all-around bullet to date(?).
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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03/26/24 07:00 PM
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Korean Redneck
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NICE!
In hindsight, i wish i would have gotten a bolt action 300ham'r instead.
I'm a dude who likes long barrels!
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: Korean Redneck]
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03/26/24 07:20 PM
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OnlySmith and Wesson: Am I looking at 300 HAM'R, Ruger American Conversion?
No, it's one of the first two prototype NULA M20S rifles slated for product launch in .223 Wylde, 300 Blackout, 300 HAM'R and 350 Legend calibers at the NRA show in May
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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03/26/24 08:24 PM
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onlysmith&wesson
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OnlySmith and Wesson: Am I looking at 300 HAM'R, Ruger American Conversion?
No, it's one of the first two prototype NULA M20S rifles slated for product launch in .223 Wylde, 300 Blackout, 300 HAM'R and 350 Legend calibers at the NRA show in May Nice. What does the one pictured weigh in at as shown with the optic and can?
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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03/27/24 12:59 PM
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OnlySmith and Wesson: Am I looking at 300 HAM'R, Ruger American Conversion?
No, it's one of the first two prototype NULA M20S rifles slated for product launch in .223 Wylde, 300 Blackout, 300 HAM'R and 350 Legend calibers at the NRA show in May Nice. What does the one pictured weigh in at as shown with the optic and can? 6# 2oz with scope rings, Leupold 3-9x33 Ultralight scope, Banish Backcountry suppressor and 6rds loaded
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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03/27/24 01:03 PM
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onlysmith&wesson
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OnlySmith and Wesson: Am I looking at 300 HAM'R, Ruger American Conversion?
No, it's one of the first two prototype NULA M20S rifles slated for product launch in .223 Wylde, 300 Blackout, 300 HAM'R and 350 Legend calibers at the NRA show in May Nice. What does the one pictured weigh in at as shown with the optic and can? 6# 2oz with scope rings, Leupold 3-9x33 Ultralight scope, Banish Backcountry suppressor and 6rds loaded Excellent.
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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03/27/24 01:34 PM
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Korean Redneck
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OnlySmith and Wesson: Am I looking at 300 HAM'R, Ruger American Conversion?
No, it's one of the first two prototype NULA M20S rifles slated for product launch in .223 Wylde, 300 Blackout, 300 HAM'R and 350 Legend calibers at the NRA show in May Nice. What does the one pictured weigh in at as shown with the optic and can? 6# 2oz with scope rings, Leupold 3-9x33 Ultralight scope, Banish Backcountry suppressor and 6rds loaded haha, that is ridiculous! very cool.
I'm a dude who likes long barrels!
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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03/30/24 02:33 PM
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Congratulations on some fine animals and equipment results!
Question for Bill and others, What velocities can I expect from 110-125gr. controlled chaos bullets from the 11.3” barrel?
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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03/31/24 08:45 PM
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Congratulations on some fine animals and equipment results!
Question for Bill and others, What velocities can I expect from 110-125gr. controlled chaos bullets from the 11.3” barrel? Compared to a 16" barrel you will lose approximately 150fps
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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04/01/24 01:24 AM
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Thank you sir, Happy Easter!
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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04/02/24 06:55 PM
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djones
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hunted hogs instead of easter eggs
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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04/02/24 06:57 PM
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djones
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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04/03/24 01:58 PM
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duffas
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Doesn't look like the WH lawn though.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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04/03/24 03:55 PM
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w Are you still using the 125 TNT? If so, what are your longer ranges with it and how's their performance at longer ranges? I'm wondering because the water testing Bill posted showed them getting less predictable at 200 yards. I was thinking of trying them here on deer and bears, but shots can be 300 yards or so pretty easily.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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04/03/24 09:28 PM
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djones
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yes 125 tnt. i shoot at them till i can see them anymore. sometimes they go down, sometimes not. dont think id count on them for game animals past 200.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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04/04/24 11:53 AM
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Just back from a successful "management" hunt for Addax and Oryx down on the Bar JP southwest of Uvalde. I used the new 110gr Lehigh Tipped Xtreme Chaos bullets and they performed flawless. Both animals were DRT and the 55gr base fully penetrated the quartering Addax. Shots were in the 100-125yd range. My son-in-law Cam (his first EVER hunt) also took an Addax and Oryx with my .358 Win shooting 180gr Tipped Controlled Chaos, both were also DRT. He's hooked on hunting now! Nice animals Bill, congrats!
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