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Re: 5th Circuit Appeal Texas Open Carry [Re: Mickey Moose] #9131027 11/01/24 02:38 PM
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I've been in law enforcement since 1987. During this span I worked patrol for eighteen years while the remaining (so far) have been in plainclothes. I always carry concealed but have seen a couple of guys open carry and neither seemed to be seeking attention. Neither were they aware of their surroundings. One had his hands filled with a bag of mulch at the Lowes in Sherman. Can't shoot anyone when your hands are full. The other guy kept his back to the door while watching tires being put on his car, also in Sherman. If you want to open carry, that's great. But you need to understand that just because you are showing big iron to the world doesn't mean the world will shy away. Those of us who carry daily for a living practice our craft to stay alive and we don't make simple mistakes like those I just mentioned.

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Originally Posted by Choctaw
I've been in law enforcement since 1987. During this span I worked patrol for eighteen years while the remaining (so far) have been in plainclothes. I always carry concealed but have seen a couple of guys open carry and neither seemed to be seeking attention. Neither were they aware of their surroundings. One had his hands filled with a bag of mulch at the Lowes in Sherman. Can't shoot anyone when your hands are full. The other guy kept his back to the door while watching tires being put on his car, also in Sherman. If you want to open carry, that's great. But you need to understand that just because you are showing big iron to the world doesn't mean the world will shy away. Those of us who carry daily for a living practice our craft to stay alive and we don't make simple mistakes like those I just mentioned.


A Lieutenant friend of mine sent me a press release after they had made a huge bust, spanning multiple cities. He said "There are people that hunt people."

I told him I conceal carry, watch what people are doing, look them in the eye as they pass by me, don't cause any trouble, but ready for it if it comes.

He said they world would be a better place if more people would do that.

One of his Sergeants has a great line. "If you look like food, you will be eaten."


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Re: 5th Circuit Appeal Texas Open Carry [Re: ntxtrapper] #9189344 02/20/25 12:15 AM
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Concealed carry provides criminals the maximum opportunity to make a fatal error in the victim selection process.


The whole point of open carry is NOT to be selected to begin with. Criminal moves on to a perceived softer target.

Concealed carriers always tout that 'element of surprise'. Why encourage the advances of a criminal right up to the time you HAVE to draw your weapon?

IMO....there is a right time and place for both. I carry both ways based on circumstance and need. Don't really understand why some folks think that is stupid or inappropriate, or why the 'police' are offered up as supposed experts on the subject.

I say carry as you like (within the confines of the law) and support (not denigrate) those who choose to arm themselves


Well I have investigated or supervised the investigations of more than a thousand shootings and was tasked with knowing every aspect of what took place, as well as presenting the case to the DA’s office with my determination of self defense justification or who was the primary aggressor, so I can’t imagine why I would be considered an expert on the subject vs someone who has watched a bunch of YouTube videos. Then of course there’s the hundreds of hours or more of tactical training on the subject as well as 25+ years of carrying a firearm in a plainclothes or undercover capacity in the worst parts of a major metropolitan city. I’m sure your training, knowledge and experience eclipses mine on the subject though.


How many actual criminals open carry? I think everyone should carry open or otherwise. There is no guarantee of safety armed or otherwise. Open carry does not always mean the criminal is aware you have a OWB holstered weapon. In fact I can usually spot who is carrying concealed unless they are overweight. I have noticed a lot of old school cops who loved it when the rules in Texas were no you can't have a gun on or about your person for any reason. I guess it was a sort of security blanket for them.

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