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Re: Anybody laid hands on a new Ruger American Gen II yet? [Re: 10 Gauge] #8999198 02/03/24 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryan C. Heimann
Thanks Scott. I was checking out the SWFA line and a look a here look a here. 9.5 ounces! Is this for real?

https://swfa.com/swfa-2-5-10x32-ss-ultralight-plex-reticle-1-tube-25-moa-clicks/


It’s a decent scope. Had it on a .22lr and it was a great addition to the Norinco copy of the BA-22


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So how can you have a plastic stock and plastic mag well and yet the factory torque specs are 65 inch pounds? Because the mag well has pillars. I don’t know if it is steel or aluminum but they are solid.

Also the stock fore end is definitely better engineered and stronger.

AICS mag well, each side

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It is pretty darn solid for a plastic stock.


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Re: Stock details, mag well has pillars [Re: 10 Gauge] #8999390 02/03/24 09:04 PM
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But also, I hate the way you have to disassemble the magazine catch to access the rear action screw. Me and roll pins, punches and a tiny spring don’t get along.

The new video from Ruger shows a guy using a ball headed allen key to do it without disassembling the mag catch. Didn’f work for me, and the Gen II still cones with the jig for reassembly.

If you lose the tiny pin in the jig, you can find a tiny 1/8x1/2 pin at Ace. Also replacement roll pins if you lose them. I picked up some spares.

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Re: Stock details, mag well has pillars [Re: 10 Gauge] #8999420 02/03/24 10:23 PM
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Correct size pin to hold the mag catch together in the assembly jig is actually 1/8x3/8. I already lost it and had to go get another 😅. The trigger, I do not know how to adjust the length or if I even could do it. But the weight, I took the weight adjustment screw completely out and I could not set it off by slamming or banging from any direction. Including slamming them muzzle end into my wallet for cushion. So it’s lighter but it’s still about a 7 out of ten tops. Weight, no idea but i can not lift the barreled action by the trigger so it is less than 4 pounds. I will call it “about 3” until i get a trigger gauge.

I just removed the adjustment screw completely, and re-installed it two full turns with a tiny dab of loctite blue 242. So it does not add tension to the spring at all, but it won’f fall out on it’s own.

The only thing I don’t like about this gun is that magazine latch over the rear action screw. It’s not a deal breaker but it is a real PITA.


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Re: Stock details, mag well has pillars [Re: 10 Gauge] #8999424 02/03/24 10:35 PM
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I could be interested in one of the 8 twist 223. Looks interesting. I see the also have 6ARC and 6CM coming out soon. They look to have the same foot print as the Gen 1 so the Magpul Hunter stock will probably work also.

Re: Stock details, mag well has pillars [Re: 10 Gauge] #8999443 02/03/24 11:38 PM
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What I REALLY want is a Gen II Ranch in .358 Winchester. Building a 1st gen in .358 Winchester now. This Gen II will stay a .308.


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Re: Stock details, mag well has pillars [Re: jlsbassman] #9006933 02/17/24 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jlsbassman
I could be interested in one of the 8 twist 223. Looks interesting. I see the also have 6ARC and 6CM coming out soon. They look to have the same foot print as the Gen 1 so the Magpul Hunter stock will probably work also.


I picked up the 5.56/223 a couple of weeks ago. Slapped a Vortex Venom, sandman suppresso and put about 20-rounds downrange. Shoots well and liking it....

Re: Stock details, mag well has pillars [Re: 10 Gauge] #9007716 02/18/24 10:52 PM
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Looking for a Gen II in 243. Handled one in 308 the other day and big difference in the actions. Damn that means I'm going to have 6 243's.


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Re: Stock details, mag well has pillars [Re: jlsbassman] #9007893 02/19/24 12:57 PM
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I could be interested in one of the 8 twist 223. Looks interesting. I see the also have 6ARC and 6CM coming out soon. They look to have the same foot print as the Gen 1 so the Magpul Hunter stock will probably work also.


I'd much rather have a 1-10 or better a 1-12, wish there was an option. I don't shoot anything heavier than 55 grain.


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Re: Anybody laid hands on a new Ruger American Gen II yet? [Re: 10 Gauge] #9007980 02/19/24 03:42 PM
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Might have to pick one up in 7 PRC

Re: Anybody laid hands on a new Ruger American Gen II yet? [Re: 10 Gauge] #9008333 02/20/24 11:21 AM
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dangit now i gotta have one , wife`s not gonna be happy ! wife thanks fellas

Re: Anybody laid hands on a new Ruger American Gen II yet? [Re: 10 Gauge] #9008369 02/20/24 01:19 PM
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Scheels had several out when I popped in there this weekend. I was already a fan but this Gen II is pretty sweet.

Re: Anybody laid hands on a new Ruger American Gen II yet? [Re: 10 Gauge] #9008496 02/20/24 04:40 PM
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Well i had to cancel my money order and start over with the gun I won on gunbroker. So it is gonna be a minute before I can actually confirm you can fit them to the same stock. I might just go ahead and buy a B&C sporter to see if she fits. I will eventually put the first gen in one anyway, when i finally get it.

Just so you know, don’t ever use a western union money order if you don’t have to. I let 15 days pass without the seller recieving payment, went to cancel it and start over with a USPS money order and the pathway to cancel a money order is pretty well buried within the western union website. Then when i got it cancelled I got a pop up that basically says please allow 30 days for processing, we are taking $15 out of it, and we are not gonna put a stop payment until we reimburse you.

They can take your money right this second but if you want to cancel it, it has to be painful. At least it is an option.


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Re: Anybody laid hands on a new Ruger American Gen II yet? [Re: 10 Gauge] #9008892 02/21/24 01:28 PM
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Did anyone find out if a stock for Gen 1 can fit a gen II?


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Re: Anybody laid hands on a new Ruger American Gen II yet? [Re: Korean Redneck] #9008914 02/21/24 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Korean Redneck
Did anyone find out if a stock for Gen 1 can fit a gen II?


The Standard barrel on the Gen 1 was very, very thin. Even the Predator model looks like it is thinner than the barrel on the G2. The action does look the same. So, a G2 stock will likely fit a G1, but with gaps. I doubt it goes the other way (although I don't know why anybody would be doing that).


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Re: Anybody laid hands on a new Ruger American Gen II yet? [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks] #9009015 02/21/24 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by QuitShootinYoungBucks
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Did anyone find out if a stock for Gen 1 can fit a gen II?


The Standard barrel on the Gen 1 was very, very thin. Even the Predator model looks like it is thinner than the barrel on the G2. The action does look the same. So, a G2 stock will likely fit a G1, but with gaps. I doubt it goes the other way (although I don't know why anybody would be doing that).

Maybe he has an aftermarket stock for G1 and wants to put it on a G2?

Re: Anybody laid hands on a new Ruger American Gen II yet? [Re: 10 Gauge] #9009043 02/21/24 05:39 PM
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The bell and carlson website says bell and carlson sporter fits American and American predator rifles. I will measure the barrel on my gen ii when i come in from the road this weekend.


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Re: Anybody laid hands on a new Ruger American Gen II yet? [Re: garyrapp55] #9009046 02/21/24 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by garyrapp55
Originally Posted by QuitShootinYoungBucks
Originally Posted by Korean Redneck
Did anyone find out if a stock for Gen 1 can fit a gen II?


The Standard barrel on the Gen 1 was very, very thin. Even the Predator model looks like it is thinner than the barrel on the G2. The action does look the same. So, a G2 stock will likely fit a G1, but with gaps. I doubt it goes the other way (although I don't know why anybody would be doing that).

Maybe he has an aftermarket stock for G1 and wants to put it on a G2?


He might, and that's why I spoke about the barrel channel. It was 50/50 he just ordered them backwards in his statement or he has a G1 custom. If his G1 has a large enough barrel channel it might fit just fine.


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Re: Anybody laid hands on a new Ruger American Gen II yet? [Re: 10 Gauge] #9009079 02/21/24 06:55 PM
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I bought the 1st gen gun on gunbroker. It won’t be my first but i am not currently in possession of one. I bought the Gen II locally, I could not put it down. I am still waiting on the 1st gen rifle. Waiting to get reimbursed for the original money order that was lost in the mail to send another.

Between now and then i might order up a Bell and Carlson for the 1st gen rifle, and check how it fits the gen II. But i got a few birthdays to pay for and a house to buy, and other things.


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Re: Anybody laid hands on a new Ruger American Gen II yet? [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks] #9009082 02/21/24 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by QuitShootinYoungBucks
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Originally Posted by QuitShootinYoungBucks
Originally Posted by Korean Redneck
Did anyone find out if a stock for Gen 1 can fit a gen II?


The Standard barrel on the Gen 1 was very, very thin. Even the Predator model looks like it is thinner than the barrel on the G2. The action does look the same. So, a G2 stock will likely fit a G1, but with gaps. I doubt it goes the other way (although I don't know why anybody would be doing that).

Maybe he has an aftermarket stock for G1 and wants to put it on a G2?


He might, and that's why I spoke about the barrel channel. It was 50/50 he just ordered them backwards in his statement or he has a G1 custom. If his G1 has a large enough barrel channel it might fit just fine.


I do have a gen 1 with an aftermarket stock, a chassis really, that I would like to use here. I appreciate the info. The barrel channel will not be an issue with this chassis.


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Impulse control…

Here is the line up for the next range sesh, plus the 168 grain hybrid hunter. I have heard that a 10 twist .308 like 175 better than 168. I don’t know how much difference 7 grains makes in length or in 2” more twist but we will figure out if it matters in this one, limited by my own ability.

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After this, I will probably just sight in about a half mil high with 180 grain Federal blue box, because it is cheap and locally available, and shoots ok. And just not buy anything else until I am set up to roll my own.


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Fellow on rugerforum.net told me the gen 1 fits the gen 2. Still waiting to see if it works the other way around


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Originally Posted by Bryan C. Heimann
Fellow on rugerforum.net told me the gen 1 fits the gen 2. Still waiting to see if it works the other way around


That implies that the V-blocks are the same. I bet KRedneck's chassis will fit, no problem.


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Originally Posted by QuitShootinYoungBucks
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Fellow on rugerforum.net told me the gen 1 fits the gen 2. Still waiting to see if it works the other way around


That implies that the V-blocks are the same. I bet KRedneck's chassis will fit, no problem.


Ought to. Them chassis usually accommodate thicker contour.


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