Do you mean you have to trim the case a little shorter to keep the ogive out of the case mouth? I think that must be what you mean, just want to be sure.

Thanks for the clarification.

IMO, trimming a little more than you have to is a good thing unless you've already got an extremely short neck like the .300 Savage. I'll go ahead and trim brass 0.015" or more than the suggested trim-to length just so I don't ever have to do it again. Trimming is a PITA.

+1 Really is a game changer when it comes to trimming. I don't hate it or look at it as a PITA any longer, just a step in the process.

If I didn't already have the Giraud...I'd look at the Henderson and compare the two to your needs/wants. It's newer on the market and getting lots of positive feedback too. Saying that, the Giraud is not money I wish I hadn't spent on reloading.

I believe I am quoting you with this. " With reloading, there is cheap, fast, and accurate. You can only have two of those." That tool is too expensive for me!

On another note, I pulled out my Lyman 50th edition, and Lyman notes that you must trim the cases shorter for both .357 and 45/70 with FTX bullets, but Lyman does not make that notation for 30/30.

That tool is too expensive for me!

As I've gotten older, my time is getting more and more expensive

As I've gotten older, my time is getting more and more expensive

Coincidentally, I spent some time the last few days prepping .30-30 brass. I treated it just like I would treat brass for one of my bolt actions. FL size, trim, chamfer and debur, and debured the flash holes. Because I don't want to use up my CCI-200 or Fed 210 primers, I primed with Winchester Large Rifle. They don't tend to produce the lowest ES, but I'm going to have to accept that, for this project.

I have Leverloution powder, and am loaded with a 150 gr Hornady round nose. I will be doing a load development, like I would for any other rifle. Looking for what charge shoots the best, and making sure it is safe ammo. My rifle us a 1994 made Marlin 336. I will let you know what I learn. Leverloution is supposed to generate significantly more velocity than any other powder that is appropriate for .30-30

If we can put a Mil based scope on a .22 lr and make hits at 300 yards, and more, then the .30-30 can absolutely do it as well. The unknown is the energy delivery. That is unknown, because I haven't shot it yet and learned what MV it's going to have. My bullet won't have a very good BC, but it will give you an idea of the velocity potential with a 150 gr.

My rifle is currently wearing irons, the way God intended. If I still possess a scope base, I will put a scope on it for load development, and then take it back off once I'm done.