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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
[Re: HunterGuy]
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01/09/24 10:30 PM
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
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01/09/24 10:33 PM
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I hope you never have a shoulder injury that prevents you from drawing a vertical bow. I would gladly go back to my stick and string if I could still pull it. Heck, I had to have someone else pull back my crossbow for 2 years after my last shoulder surgery. Edit: By the way, I haven't shot a deer with a firearm but once since 1995. I have taken a few with a recurve, many with a compound and a few with a crossbow. I still hunt the same stands/feeders at the same distance that I did with my compound. Like others have said, I would much rather hike in with a recurve or compound than carry in a heavy crossbow. Also with a compound, I have been able to take 2 deer within 3 minutes of each other as all I had to do was get another arrow strung and wait for a shot. With a crossbow, there is way more movement and noise to get it ready to shoot again, especially from an elevated stand. Just my point of view.
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
[Re: HunterGuy]
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01/10/24 05:25 AM
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
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01/10/24 01:26 PM
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If someone hunts with a crossbow, do you think they can call themselves bowhunters? who cares??? Apperently a bunch of whiny batches who feel they're superior because of their methods. Smells like insecurity to me. Childish.
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
[Re: HunterGuy]
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Using a long bow and or a compound bow is the essence of primitive hunting. The flight of the arrow is an extension of the shooters ability to draw, hold with precision and perfectly release the arrow. Any defect in this process will cause a miss or even worse a wounded animal.
Unfortunately as we age our ability to maintain this precision is diminished. When I reached my 60's I saw a marked reduction in my consistency.
Rather then give up the opportunity to pursue my passion of hunting I have opted to use the crossbow. There is no question that a cross bow markedly increases my accuracy and minimizes the risk of wounding my prey.
I couldn't care less about your definition of the type hunting hunting the use of the crossbow is. I'm just thankful technology gave us compounds over long bows, bow sights rather then instinctive shooting, releases rather then finger tabs, glass arrows rather then cedar shafts, and expandables over over fixed blade points.
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
[Re: HunterGuy]
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01/10/24 01:56 PM
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If someone hunts with a crossbow, do you think they can call themselves bowhunters? What's your opinion on the question your raise?
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
[Re: HunterGuy]
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01/10/24 02:18 PM
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I guess it depends if they are hunting with it over a feeder or not, maybe behind a high fence too? Yes they are bowhunters. Crossbows have been around long before compounds. Yes I have one, don't hunt with it currently- I use a longbow.
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
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01/10/24 02:36 PM
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If you don't cut a piece of bois de arc, shape it, kill your own ducks, fletch your own homemade arrows, make a string with sinew from last year's kill, wax it with bee's wax that you collected yourself from wild bees, and knap your own broadheads, can you really call yourself a bowhunter? Now that's one I can do.
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
[Re: HunterGuy]
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01/10/24 02:42 PM
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Can you even call yourself a hunter at all? The real hunters chase herds with their buddies until they either turn and fight or collapse from exhaustion, then dispatch them with sharp sticks.
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
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01/10/24 02:43 PM
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I guess it depends if they are hunting with it over a feeder or not, maybe behind a high fence too? Yes they are bowhunters. Crossbows have been around long before compounds. Yes I have one, don't hunt with it currently- I use a longbow.
A lot of people forget the crossbow was invented in Europe in the 1100’s
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
[Re: HunterGuy]
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01/10/24 02:45 PM
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I'm still interested in HunterGuy's thoughts on the question he raised.
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
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01/10/24 03:27 PM
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Im fine with crossbows for archery, I don’t think I’ll ever use one as long as I can shoot a vertical bow. If I ever a an injury the makes me unable to shoot a vertical bow, I would buy a crossbow and hunt with it.
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
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Can you even call yourself a hunter at all? The real hunters chase herds with their buddies until they either turn and fight or collapse from exhaustion, then dispatch them with sharp sticks. Can you call yourself a real hunter if you have to use a sharp stick? Anything above buck-naked and bare-handed is an advantage. Use whatever legal advantage you want, just don't judge others for their legal choices.
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
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01/10/24 03:33 PM
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Can you even call yourself a hunter at all? The real hunters chase herds with their buddies until they either turn and fight or collapse from exhaustion, then dispatch them with sharp sticks. Can you call yourself a real hunter if you have to use a sharp stick? Anything above buck-naked and bare-handed is an advantage. Use whatever legal advantage you want, just don't judge others for their legal choices. I always though running the whole herd of a cliff was a little excessive
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
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I guess it depends if they are hunting with it over a feeder or not, maybe behind a high fence too? Yes they are bowhunters. Crossbows have been around long before compounds. Yes I have one, don't hunt with it currently- I use a longbow.
A lot of people forget the crossbow was invented in Europe in the 1100’s They're actually a bit older than that, 500 BC or so. The Chinese and the Greeks came up with them around the same time. They've been used in hunting that far back too based on artwork.
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
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01/10/24 04:04 PM
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Can you even call yourself a hunter at all? The real hunters chase herds with their buddies until they either turn and fight or collapse from exhaustion, then dispatch them with sharp sticks. Can you call yourself a real hunter if you have to use a sharp stick? Anything above buck-naked and bare-handed is an advantage. Use whatever legal advantage you want, just don't judge others for their legal choices. I always though running the whole herd of a cliff was a little excessive Highly unsportsmanlike. What will we eat when they spoil? And it is far too cruel to dispatch them bare handed. A sharp stick is more ethical.
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
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01/10/24 04:06 PM
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Can you even call yourself a hunter at all? The real hunters chase herds with their buddies until they either turn and fight or collapse from exhaustion, then dispatch them with sharp sticks. Can you call yourself a real hunter if you have to use a sharp stick? Anything above buck-naked and bare-handed is an advantage. Use whatever legal advantage you want, just don't judge others for their legal choices. I always though running the whole herd of a cliff was a little excessive Highly unsportsmanlike. What will we eat when they spoil? jerkey.
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
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01/10/24 04:10 PM
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Sorry i was not quick on the draw when i edited that. Sharp sticks are far more humane than bare hands.
I would rather kill them fresh than live on dried meat. And i am not a huge fan of bruised and battered bony meat. Lets use the sharp sticks. This i s the path.
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
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01/10/24 04:51 PM
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Live and let live.
The state of Texas says it's legal.
I don't care how anyone hunts, or their weapon of choice. You do you.
Some of the best hours in camp, are when everyone comes in after the sun goes down, and we've got a fire going. Everyone standing around the fire, holding their drink of choice. I'm just glad everyone made it back to camp safe. I don't care what weapon they were hunting with.
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
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Live and let live.
The state of Texas says it's legal.
I don't care how anyone hunts, or their weapon of choice. You do you.
Some of the best hours in camp, are when everyone comes in after the sun goes down, and we've got a fire going. Everyone standing around the fire, holding their drink of choice. I'm just glad everyone made it back to camp safe. I don't care what weapon they were hunting with. I would rather to stick with virtue signaling and thinking i am better than you because I wear a loin cloth and use a fire-hardened sharp stick.
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
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I will say, I do care about the weapon of choice, if they are not proficient with it and prone to taking unethical shots. But that's more on the person than the weapon, I guess.
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
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Im fine with crossbows for archery, I don’t think I’ll ever use one as long as I can shoot a vertical bow. If I ever a an injury the makes me unable to shoot a vertical bow, I would buy a crossbow and hunt with it. My issue isn’t with a crossbow, it’s the optics the majority of them wear. Shooting a crossbow with a 4x32 scope isn’t the same as me shooting a compound bow with pins. I feel the same way about scoped muzzleloader in special seasons.
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
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A few weeks back it was, "are you even a man if you don't own a 30-06". Now this crap. Some seriously shallow judgmental folks here. Glad I'm not on trial with these guys as jurors.
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
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I’ll play. Until a crossbow is developed that’s both quiet and fast, it’s not a very effective way to shoot Texas deer. ![popcorn popcorn](/forum/images/graemlins/default/popcorn.gif) This one liked the crossbow. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/01/full-63244-410489-img_3572.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/01/full-63244-410490-img_3568.jpg)
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Re: What kind of hunting is it?
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Nice Buck Angus, would love to the shot or at least entrance on that guy. Looks like you got him in the butt with that pic.
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