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Thoughts on high fence ranchs? #8981306 01/02/24 10:34 PM
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Do yall think hunting 25k acres high fence is fair chase? Heard that people will say its like shooting fish in a barrel. just wondering what are yalls opinions on large high fence game ranches.

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25k acres is a lot of property for sure. I use to own a 600 acre HF ranch and there were times I had trouble finding certain deer on it. 25k is certainly not fish in a barrel hunting.

Technically I do not think any HF ranch can be considered fair chase but there is certainly nothing wrong hunting a HF place (especially if it holds native deer) - you are going to get a ton of opinions on this thread so be ready for it


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It's been so long!!! banana2 Thanks HunterGuy for starting the New Year off right!

I leased a 10K acre, high fence, pasture for 4 years. 'Great place. Several on here called it a "pen". One on here will cast aspersions on your wife over his opinion versus yours regarding high fence. True story.


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Re: Thoughts on high fence ranchs? [Re: HunterGuy] #8981319 01/02/24 10:55 PM
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Here we go again.



Fish in a barrel can be high fence or low fence.



Re: Thoughts on high fence ranchs? [Re: HunterGuy] #8981327 01/02/24 11:04 PM
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Hmmm . . . .

Re: Thoughts on high fence ranchs? [Re: HunterGuy] #8981329 01/02/24 11:06 PM
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IMO HF should be at least 1000 and maybe 2000 acres, but that's strictly personal opinion. Nothing scientific about it.

25k acres is HUGE.


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Re: Thoughts on high fence ranchs? [Re: HunterGuy] #8981334 01/02/24 11:15 PM
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Nowadays, what defines fair chase is left up to the hunter and others who follow the same tactics. I suspect those in the non-hunting majority would often define the term much differently.


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Re: Thoughts on high fence ranchs? [Re: HunterGuy] #8981336 01/02/24 11:17 PM
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It’s fair chase to me. I dont give a chit.

Is it fair chase to buy meat at the store? GTFO. Make meat. If the rack looks good get it mounted.

If you can afford to hunt a high fence place like that, it’s an achievement in itself.


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Re: Thoughts on high fence ranchs? [Re: HunterGuy] #8981340 01/02/24 11:21 PM
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Even if it’s not fair chase, who cares? 25k acres is not a penned animal. Would a public ground trophy mean more to me? Sure.

Bit if i had the disposable income i would have a freezer full of high fence elk.


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A pen is a pen no matter the size

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The question should be is it ethical, and the answer is yes. And if you disagree, but you buy meat from the store, i guess you can’t know what you don’t know.


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Re: Thoughts on high fence ranchs? [Re: 5Redman8] #8981351 01/02/24 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 5Redman8
A pen is a pen no matter the size


See what I mean?

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Originally Posted by Bryan C. Heimann
If you can afford to hunt a high fence place like that, it’s an achievement in itself.


There you go...having to hit on the crux of the matter. Well done! up


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I personally hate them - but it's not because of what is on the inside of it. If you want to shoot a 180-inch buck in 25 acres or 25k acres - your conscience - your money - you spend it.

My gripe about high fences is the disruptive nature and the impact it has on wildlife - outside the fence. I border about 2 miles of high fence and some areas of my ranch have not seen a deer since that fence went up. I understand deer (and other animals) are adaptive by nature and to a degree, they have. With that said, a deer doesn't put itself in a position with no way out (if you understand what I'm trying to say). Unfortunately, when that fence went up (roughly 10 years ago), it created areas that are not conducive for a deer to feel safe - I presume?? I have no other answers as to why deer have vacated those areas and will not come back. I realize my perspective will differ from others and the high fence guys are going to hate - I am just speaking from first-hand experience and the impacts that a high fence has on me, personally.

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They probably fenced you out for a reason


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Re: Thoughts on high fence ranchs? [Re: DSpur72] #8981376 01/03/24 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DSpur72
I personally hate them - but it's not because of what is on the inside of it. If you want to shoot a 180-inch buck in 25 acres or 25k acres - your conscience - your money - you spend it.

My gripe about high fences is the disruptive nature and the impact it has on wildlife - outside the fence. I border about 2 miles of high fence and some areas of my ranch have not seen a deer since that fence went up. I understand deer (and other animals) are adaptive by nature and to a degree, they have. With that said, a deer doesn't put itself in a position with no way out (if you understand what I'm trying to say). Unfortunately, when that fence went up (roughly 10 years ago), it created areas that are not conducive for a deer to feel safe - I presume?? I have no other answers as to why deer have vacated those areas and will not come back. I realize my perspective will differ from others and the high fence guys are going to hate - I am just speaking from first-hand experience and the impacts that a high fence has on me, personally.



there is the other side of the coin where the property is more diverse and better habitat for all species because its better managed and more inline with natures intentions.


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Originally Posted by 5Redman8
A pen is a pen no matter the size


well atleast you stop bashing the outfitter because you didnt get a bull


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The overwhelming majority of Texas hunters cannot fathom what 25,000 acres looks or feels like, so it’s like asking someone is a 12 second car fast when most ride around in a 1/2 ton truck. You’re getting mostly speculated opinions based on no real experience

Something like 90% of properties in Texas are under 1200 acres so to throw out a number like 25,000 and ask if its fair chase is silly.


If you have access to it go hunt it, who gives a shyte what anyone else thinks. Hunters are always looking for ways to discredit other hunters. Lots of people think if you didn't kill an animal on OTC crowded public land its not a legit kill. Totally Asinine


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No problem hunting HF to me. By the definition of free chase as I understand it, I don’t think it can be call that. I don’t worry much about it.


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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
The overwhelming majority of Texas hunters cannot fathom what 25,000 acres looks or feels like, so it’s like asking someone is a 12 second car fast when most ride around in a 1/2 ton truck. You’re getting mostly speculated opinions based on no real experience

Something like 90% of properties in Texas are under 1200 acres so to throw out a number like 25,000 and ask if its fair chase is silly.


If you have access to it go hunt it, who gives a shyte what anyone else thinks. Hunters are always looking for ways to discredit other hunters. Lots of people think if you didn't kill an animal on OTC crowded public land its not a legit kill. Totally Asinine


out side of the panhandle and west tx most places in Texas you are hunting < a 600yard diameter circle at most at any giving time, hill country its probably way less.


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I would love to hunt 25,000 acres, so many places to hunt and hopefully different deer to be seen. If you ask me about a smaller high fence place, I don't think my answer would be the same.
Near our lease there is a 600-acre place that was sold 2 years ago. Always had hunters on the property. The new owner fenced 2 sides with high fence, he did not own the other. Makes no sense and there are no hunters this year. Know this is different type of comment than was expected but is still regarding high fence.

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Originally Posted by redchevy
No problem hunting HF to me. By the definition of free chase as I understand it, I don’t think it can be call that. I don’t worry much about it.



Free range and fair chase are different. By definition, technically hunting on an island like Newfoundland or Maui is not free range.

Fair chase simply means the animal has a reasonable chance at escape. In many instances that would entail walking 25-50 yards and they are in the woods and in the clear.



But, like yourself, I don't worry much about it.


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