Any proof to the claim that they were "restocking" bears in secret?

Like I said in my original post, it was the location of the releases that were not revealed. If you do some research you will find that is often the case especially when the releases involve threatened or endangered species.

Back in the mid to late 80s LDWF was actively restocking bears in what they determined were key areas usually females with cubs. Yes, there was some limited discussion about the restocking efforts but LDWF would not reveal the location of the efforts. Finally with enough persistent outcry by landowners and the public the general locations of the releases were shared with the public.

I know of a location where a female with two cubs was reintroduced and LDWF denied the release despite numerous reported sightings by local residents. In this case the sightings of local residents were confirmed but almost ten years after the fact. One of the residents was my Grandfather that saw the bears several times while tending his livestock. He reported each sighting and each time was told he was just an old man that was seeing things.

Just my 2 cents.

Ok, I didn't really expect anything but thought I would ask. I hear rumors like that all the time

If black jaguars are the explanation for all of the sightings, where are all the sightings of the 9x more common color variety?

No one has seen a black panther in Texas.


They either saw a mountain lion in the shadows and mistook it for a black cat or another black animal and misidentified it as a panther, or they are just flat out lying.

That’s kind of short-sighted. Most of the sightings are coming from East Texas. Think about that.

I won’t tell you what the other explanation is, but I will tell you that it’s methed up.

Most lie. Many hallucinate.

I would be interested in seeing the source(s) on this. If somebody had compiled a database, that would be cool!

^^^^^

Not that much to "Think about" really.

'East Texas'.....particularly Deep East Texas (behind the Pine Curtain) is a whole 'nother world in some respects.

Its been a good while since we had a laughable "Black Panther thread" thanks for the morning laugh folks.

Arizona Jaguar
https://www.outdoorlife.com/conservation/jaguar-trail-camera-arizona/

Yep. Jags show up in Arizona from time to time. Pretty cool and pretty well-known.

East Texans think that those pine woods hold mystical magical beings.

It’s actually one of the most populous areas of the state. Just cause it gets dark at 4:30 this time of year doesent means it’s the land of enchantment.


It just means people are afraid of the dark

I wouldn't want to spend the night alone on some land we used to own outside of San Augustine without some claymores.

Thank you for reminding so many of us what we have tried so hard to forget.

Hell, a couple of years ago, a Sasquatch was reported around Lake Texhoma.

https://seslibrary.asu.edu/sites/default/files/seslibrary/sources/146/Malapai%20Borderlands%20Conservation%20Plan%20%28Final%29%20-%20reduced.pdf

The link above that image will take you to the malpai borderlands conservation plan. This is from 2008. Jaguars for sure, for sure, have been documented in the US since the turn of the century.

But on the THF I guess the predominant consensus is no jaguars have roamed this land in over 50 years. I don’t know what to tell you.

I don’t think they range the malpai borderlands. I think there are some living there.

East Texas High School mascots…

Cheese and crackers. Here I was thinking that you were one of the reasonable ones, and now you go and do this. Because I like you, I will give a response. Really, though, you’re better than this.

First off, I don’t recall anyone denying the existence of jaguars in the southern U.S. Second, most of us know that they currently range in southern Arizona. At any rate, I haven’t seen anyone dispute that. Probably because it has little to no bearing on this conversation. Third, and most important, how many jaguars have been spotted in East Texas? If such a small portion of them are black, it stands to reason that many, many more sightings of regularly colored jaguars would happen. But that isn’t the case, is it? You’re an intelligent fella. You know why.

The game wardens refer to them as Labrador retriever sightings for a reason.

Mybad. I guess i haven’t followed the thread very closely. I sort of dismissed it altogether when a couple fellers started pulling dates from their imagination and claiming it was the last one documented, last one killed, etc..

But i checked back in when one feller posted something about secretly teansporting black bears to Louisiana, and here we are.

I can agree that East Texas sightings are probably 99% lies and hallucinations.

That’s better.

LOL it’s not the first time i had to eat crow on here

You’re good, amigo. I’m just messing with you. I meant it when I said you were smart.

A buddy of mine shared pictures of a black panther taken outside of Vashti, Texas this week. There are two very nice pics, look to be game camera images, but old style with white light flash. For some reason, it looks like somene cut off any identifying time stamps from the image. Odd, no?

So I google image search the images. Here are the results to the first image. Oddly enough, the first image of the black panther is the same proof used for black panther citings around the world and going back several years and it looks like the oldest listed is from India, where they have black panthers, go figure.

https://lens.google.com/search?ep=gisbubb&hl=en&re=df&p=AbrfA8qFAiDUL8GxRelNbFbP2Lo4x4oZqs0kiU-0K_42v0oeS-RrQesf4DicCpkVWg6GCxOr-YuSPClFw6BYvyhF_OTaH5Pmu5g90qDwtRY6eJ7PsRsx9O8btkxmf4INZYYmjIGEpxvLdeI_EzBFsa3RiqJdEDDWRl1sQcyXqXrIfG4unJ04e_AjW7vBt-Ev66cdtReBYpvLLQBBBA%3D%3D#lns=W251bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLDEsIkVrY0tKREV6TnpjeU5EQTVMV0k0WkRjdE5EVTROQzFpT0RVMExUTmhNamN5WW1NMVpEVTRPUklmWXpWUFRVMXNNMmh2U2xsa1ZVTm1hVWxtYTFwaVJFSk9hSGwyYW5wb1p3PT0iLG51bGwsbnVsbCxbW251bGwsbnVsbCwiaXAtMSIsbnVsbCwyMV0sWyIxMGM0ZWMwNS1jMjI4LTQ5NzMtOGRjMC1lODBiNGNhOWE3MjYiXV0sbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsW251bGwsbnVsbCxbbnVsbCxbMCwwLDEwMDAwMCwxMDAwMDBdXV1d

The second image is one already tagged as being faked back in 2013, LOL. https://www.ksla.com/story/24080309/ldwf-warns-of-panther-hoaxes-in-louisiana/

You see, you have to cut the time stamps off the photographs or people will realize you are hoaxing everyone else with outdated material.