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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
[Re: Sniper John]
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12/21/23 11:47 PM
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You just taught me to measure the bolt face if ever one comes my way.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
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12/22/23 01:59 AM
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One of my favorite 6.5s is another old military round 6.5X54MS. Not as powerful but also has a history of killing critters way beyond what many would consider it acceptable for today. Bell used a 6.5X54 for lots of elephants and it is about equal to the 30-30 in energy but long heavy for caliber military solids would reach what he needed to make the kills.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
[Re: Longhorn74]
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12/22/23 06:11 AM
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It will always amaze me how a military cartridge from 1891 can be Americanized into a short action and become the new great thing almost over night. It has always been there for the taking.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
[Re: Longhorn74]
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I think the creedmoor wins for ammo availability, that just makes it more practical. I just like the swedish mauser better. Don’t ask me why. I likes what i likes.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
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12/22/23 09:22 PM
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I think the creedmoor wins for ammo availability, that just makes it more practical. I just like the swedish mauser better. Don’t ask me why. I likes what i likes. Ain’t a thing wrong with liking something just because. Most of the guns I have are “just because” purchases. The 6.5 CM is the easy button. I’ve bought three of them (Ruger, Savage, Tikka), and all were ridiculously accurate with factory ammo. And I am 100% certain I could go find a box of ammo locally within 20 minutes if I needed to. For those that don’t handload, ammo availability would be high on the list of must haves.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
[Re: Sniper John]
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12/23/23 12:22 PM
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If you plan to shoot factory ammunition there are more choices available for the creedmoor. If you handload, the creedmoor can not quite match the performance of 6.5x55 sweede. The creedmoor is a tiny bit more efficient but I’ve never heard any of my buddies sitting around the table at the deer camp get excited about leaving performance on the table in the name of efficiency. In my opinion they are both really good without enough difference to make either clearly superior. How many camps, or hunts have you been on where a Swede was present? I can't remember a single one in 53 years. I have, but I am sure I only noticed because I had one myself. And they were Winchesters. I never encountered another Remington. Winchester made some in the 90s. My Remington Classic was a single 1994 year. I did an even trade with a guy from Maine. My Rem 700 30 06 for his in 6.5x55. He decided his new rifle was not adequate for bear and I felt a 6.5x55 would be better for Texas whitetail. I did have a few friends who also had C&R FFLs like me who sportered Swedish Mausers into hunting rifles during the good old days of cheap imports. I still have swedish mausers in storage that I pulled out of the box only to inspect when I received them and have never opened them again. I once bought some civilian target M96 Mausers with altered stocks and the aftermarket sights removed as "u fix em"s at 4 for $100 from one of the importers. There were a lot of people building 6.5x55 sporters for hunting during those years. Talking about twist, Both my Remington 700 and the Baikal in 6.5x55 are 1/8. And another issue from the past on 6.5x55 ammo and rifles design was that some American made ammo and brass was based off a 3006 case, .473. The swede case head is .480. Or something close to that. It may no longer be that way. I don't know. I have long since forgot which size case Remington cut their bolt face for, but in 1994 I bet it was for 3006 based American Brass for what was available and cost cutting. For my deer stand hunting, it would not have mattered anyway and I only used original surplus swedish ammo in my Sniper rifle. But for a serious reloader with a swede, it would be worth paying attention to it. The first one I saw (made me want one) was a sporterized Swedish Mauser in a Bell and Carlson stock. I love those rifles. Sniper John’s comments about having some still in the box makes me want one all over again…
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
[Re: Longhorn74]
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12/24/23 02:12 PM
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Like the others have said, the 6.5 CM won't give you anything over what you have. If you really like 6.5s, add a 6.5 PRC in the mix. Alternately, use the brass you already have to fireform and get about the same performance out of the 6.5x55mm Bob Jourdan Ackley Improved (BJAI).
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
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12/31/23 04:57 AM
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If you already have 6.5x55, no need for the Creedmoor. I assume you have at least one Swedish Mauser with the fast twist that can handle long heavy bullets no problem. If you're going to get another 6.5, PRC would probably more worth your while as far as a performance upgrade. Which 6.5x55s do you have? I'd like to get a Husqvarna M38 and a Ljungman at some point. ^100% agree.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
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12/31/23 07:06 PM
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If you plan to shoot factory ammunition there are more choices available for the creedmoor. If you handload, the creedmoor can not quite match the performance of 6.5x55 sweede. The creedmoor is a tiny bit more efficient but I’ve never heard any of my buddies sitting around the table at the deer camp get excited about leaving performance on the table in the name of efficiency. In my opinion they are both really good without enough difference to make either clearly superior. How many camps, or hunts have you been on where a Swede was present? I can't remember a single one in 53 years. I only know one guy that shoots one. Very, very casual hunter. He’s the only guy I know who has one. Everyone and their cousin now has a 6.5 cm. People finally figured out you don’t need much horsepower as originally thought to kill a whitetail. Even the tried and true .270 is much more than needed when you get down to it. The 6.5 cm fills a good gap between .243/.257 Robert’s and a .270/.308/.30-06. Honestly I’m shocked that the .25-06 didn’t garner much more attention, but then again, it’s a Remington round so not all that surprising
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
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01/03/24 04:26 PM
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264 Win Mag...6.5 in a 7 mag case...smokes em.all!
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
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264 Win Mag...6.5 in a 7 mag case...smokes em.all! Actually the 7mm Remington mag is a 7mm bullet in a 264 Winchester case since all Remington did was expand the mouth .02 inches and call it a 7mm Remington Magnum and overtook the 264 Win Mag in sales very quickly.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
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01/03/24 09:03 PM
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264 Win Mag...6.5 in a 7 mag case...smokes em.all! Including the barrel!
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
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01/03/24 10:16 PM
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264 Win Mag...6.5 in a 7 mag case...smokes em.all! Including the barrel! Speed costs ..How fast you want to go?
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
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01/03/24 10:28 PM
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A swede is the last rifle I still want. I have zero need for it...but I waunt it. I need to reduce some others. I waunt them all
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
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01/03/24 11:12 PM
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264 Win Mag...6.5 in a 7 mag case...smokes em.all! If all you're worried about is muzzle velocity.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
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01/04/24 12:13 AM
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264 Win Mag...6.5 in a 7 mag case...smokes em.all! and the 6.5 -300 wby makes the 264 WM anemic
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
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01/04/24 11:55 AM
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I had never heard of the 6.5 x 55 at all before this site. But then again, I wasn't into hunting or even shooting at all really. That was 10-15 years ago.
The genius of the Hornady 6.5CM wasn't ballistics - it was support. The idea of long range precision shooting was so out of touch for most shooters 15 years ago. But Hornady came out with a round that was incredibly accurate with readily available factory ammo up to and beyond 1000 yards. It worked well for hunting or paper punching with available factory loads, and had very manageable recoil, and to top it off, it was an easy cartridge to reload for if a shooter later decided they wanted to get into reloading. Really smart overall approach by Hornady.
For folks that already reloaded and had been shooting for a hundred years, it didn't do a ton that other cartridges didn't already do. For folks new to the game or for hunters who wanted to get into long range without having to spend a fortune in time or money figuring it out, it was an absolute game-changer.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
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01/04/24 07:12 PM
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6.5CM smoked 2 big boars with ease this past week.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
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01/04/24 08:21 PM
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I started out with surplus Swedes more than 40 years ago; my brother still has the one I gave him. That said, the Creedmoor is just crazy simple to get to perform and it is so pleasant to shoot that your kids can shoot it -- and shoot it very well.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swede
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