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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 12:29 AM
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Stupid? You are the one that is saying that it is OK to murder people. I am simply agreeing with you.
Criminals are still people. They are entitled to equal protection under the law that you and I are. If you are making up categories of people that are OK to murder do you want to throw Jews, Muslims, and maybe Black's into the pot? People who drive the speed limit in the left lane? Telemarketers? Where do you propose to draw a line? Just give me a list of people you think should be murdered. How would you feel if some else decided that you or one of you family members were the ones that should be murdered? Can you even come up with a legal definition of what a hardened criminals is? How about we murder anyone over 75 years of age because they are no longer beneficial to society? We wouldn't even have to directly murder them, we could just say that they are no longer worth spending money on for medical care for the 5 to 20 years that they could still live. You are talking about people you have chosen to live outside the law needing protection of the law. If the prisons were harsh enough, it would be a behavior altering experience for those who are eventually released. Let them reap what they sow.
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 12:46 AM
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blkt2
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Stupid? You are the one that is saying that it is OK to murder people. I am simply agreeing with you.
Criminals are still people. They are entitled to equal protection under the law that you and I are. If you are making up categories of people that are OK to murder do you want to throw Jews, Muslims, and maybe Black's into the pot? People who drive the speed limit in the left lane? Telemarketers? Where do you propose to draw a line? Just give me a list of people you think should be murdered. How would you feel if some else decided that you or one of you family members were the ones that should be murdered? Can you even come up with a legal definition of what a hardened criminals is? How about we murder anyone over 75 years of age because they are no longer beneficial to society? We wouldn't even have to directly murder them, we could just say that they are no longer worth spending money on for medical care for the 5 to 20 years that they could still live. You are talking about people you have chosen to live outside the law needing protection of the law. If the prisons were harsh enough, it would be a behavior altering experience for those who are eventually released. Let them reap what they sow. We used to have that up until the mid to late 1980s in Texas and the "System" produced murderous psychos because the skill set needed to survive in that environment made people unsuitable for life in the free world. When that ended in Texas the completely self funded prison system that we had for nearly 80 years ended at the sametime. Read the Ruiz v. Estelle lawsuit and you will understand what I am talking about. I am familiar with it because the Judge on the case was a family friend and I spoke with him about it at length. I do agree that prison should be harsher then they are but I think running them like a boot camp instead of the lord of the flies would serve society better.
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 01:01 AM
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Dave Davidson
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Although I agreed with him being held accountable for what he did; the government failed to keep him safe. The Warden needs to take his place in a cell. He failed to do his job. Without accountability, this was expected all along. No surprise.
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 01:14 AM
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You are talking about people you have chosen to live outside the law needing protection of the law. If the prisons were harsh enough, it would be a behavior altering experience for those who are eventually released. Let them reap what they sow.
Right on Smokey.
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 01:16 AM
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Jgraider
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We used to have that up until the mid to late 1980s in Texas and the "System" produced murderous psychos because the skill set needed to survive in that environment made people unsuitable for life in the free world. When that ended in Texas the completely self funded prison system that we had for nearly 80 years ended at the sametime. Read the Ruiz v. Estelle lawsuit and you will understand what I am talking about. I am familiar with it because the Judge on the case was a family friend and I spoke with him about it at length.
I do agree that prison should be harsher then they are but I think running them like a boot camp instead of the lord of the flies would serve society better.
Convicted murderers should be killed, promptly.
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 01:33 AM
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blkt2
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We used to have that up until the mid to late 1980s in Texas and the "System" produced murderous psychos because the skill set needed to survive in that environment made people unsuitable for life in the free world. When that ended in Texas the completely self funded prison system that we had for nearly 80 years ended at the sametime. Read the Ruiz v. Estelle lawsuit and you will understand what I am talking about. I am familiar with it because the Judge on the case was a family friend and I spoke with him about it at length.
I do agree that prison should be harsher then they are but I think running them like a boot camp instead of the lord of the flies would serve society better.
Convicted murderers should be killed, promptly. We have laws concerning that and I am very familiar with them.
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 02:03 AM
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Jgraider
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You got a problem killing convicted killers?
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 02:07 AM
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 02:32 AM
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 03:37 AM
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You got a problem killing convicted killers?
Depends on who they killed. If they killed an innocent person then I have no problem killing them for it. If it is a peer on peer killing I don't take that all that seriously and would be fine just locking them up.
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 03:55 AM
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Jgraider
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You got a problem killing convicted killers?
Depends on who they killed. If they killed an innocent person then I have no problem killing them for it. If it is a peer on peer killing I don't take that all that seriously and would be fine just locking them up. Why?
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 04:01 AM
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Mickey Moose
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 04:21 AM
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blkt2
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Considering how many woman use accusations of rape as a weapon I would not support making rape a capital crime. Remember the woman who were lining up to say that a nominee to the Supreme Court raped them?
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 04:23 AM
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blkt2
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You got a problem killing convicted killers?
Depends on who they killed. If they killed an innocent person then I have no problem killing them for it. If it is a peer on peer killing I don't take that all that seriously and would be fine just locking them up. Why? Because I want inner city violence to continue. It is like observing a war where you want both sides to lose.
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 06:54 AM
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Why should Chauvin have protective custody? Once any person becomes a ward of the Justice Systems incarceration programs the Government whether it be local, state, or federal are responsible for the health and well being of each person. In this case almost all the factors determining protective custody were met. The individual can refuse it but ultimately it is left to the highest authority in each institution. Almost always they err to the safe side because of litigation. He has a very good case if he was never offered. If he has refused the highest authority should have still placed him there until a court order released the authority and the court took responsibility. He will win a suit he goes this way. Well said ![up up](/forum/images/graemlins/default/cup.gif)
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 01:46 PM
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Wouldn't surprise me if this man was set up to be killed through deliberate negligence. It would be very very inconvenient for his conviction to be overturned from the perspective of quite a few people in government and as long as he is alive that possibility exist.
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 06:38 PM
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Wouldn't surprise me if this man was set up to be killed through deliberate negligence. It would be very very inconvenient for his conviction to be overturned from the perspective of quite a few people in government and as long as he is alive that possibility exist. Pretty much what I said.
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 06:59 PM
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Wouldn't surprise me if this man was set up to be killed through deliberate negligence. It would be very very inconvenient for his conviction to be overturned from the perspective of quite a few people in government and as long as he is alive that possibility exist. Pretty much what I said. Yup, and I agree, more corruption.
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 07:00 PM
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Im sure they will soon release the suspects name. 😂
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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11/26/23 08:18 PM
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ntxtrapper
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I’m betting it was some dirt bag getting some block cred. Like I said in my first post, no reason he shouldn’t have been in PC.
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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12/01/23 10:17 PM
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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12/01/23 10:18 PM
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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12/02/23 02:08 AM
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Jimbo1
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Stabbing dude was 2 1/2 years from getting released. FBI moved him to a different prison. This stinks of Deep State.
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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12/02/23 12:50 PM
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You're kidding, right. Guy was a Mexican Mafia gangster.
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Re: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison.
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12/02/23 11:37 PM
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he got stuck 22 times I read
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