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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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11/30/23 08:19 PM
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Yes, you would be illegal in shooting across property lines without permission (see the rest of the law you didn't cite). Also, if somebody is on the property when your bullet goes by, you may get charged with deadly conduct. If you happen to hit a person, you very well may be arrested. Plus, there will undoubtedly be a civil suit. So the bigger issue isn't just that you are breaking the law, but that you could kill somebody even if you don't think they are there. I pressed charges against 3 idiots shooting across the property line onto my property. They claimed that they didn't think anybody was on my property, as if that made it okay. Good video DNS!!!
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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11/30/23 09:05 PM
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So here’s a question… What is allowable under Tx Law 62.0121
b) A person commits an offense if: (1) the person, while hunting or engaging in recreational shooting, knowingly discharges a firearm; and (2) the projectile from the firearm travels across a property line.
We hunt on a small property, roughly 60 acres. If I miss while hunting, there is a chance that the projectile from my rifle will cross a property line, possibly multiple. If I read this correctly I am breaking the law? Am I missing something? Hunting 60 acres and you cant hunt in manner where the likelihood of you bullet leaving the property Is nominal ? Impressive
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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So here’s a question… What is allowable under Tx Law 62.0121
b) A person commits an offense if: (1) the person, while hunting or engaging in recreational shooting, knowingly discharges a firearm; and (2) the projectile from the firearm travels across a property line.
We hunt on a small property, roughly 60 acres. If I miss while hunting, there is a chance that the projectile from my rifle will cross a property line, possibly multiple. If I read this correctly I am breaking the law? Am I missing something? Hunting 60 acres and you cant hunt in manner where the likelihood of you bullet leaving the property Is nominal ? Impressive Very
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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12/01/23 02:50 AM
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It’s typical that whatever you would expect someone not to do in observance of the law or common sense, they’ll do the opposite.
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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12/01/23 03:50 PM
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Good stuff here. I remember when I was a kid shooting 22 shorts, the box said Range 1 mile. Be careful. I’ve always remembered that but the chart speaks volumes.
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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I would be curious to know what the byangle of elevation would be on the 7mm MAG for a distance of 3 1/2 miles?
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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I would be curious to know what the byangle of elevation would be on the 7mm MAG for a distance of 3 1/2 miles? On level ground, maximum range would be achieved at a 45 degree angle.
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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12/01/23 05:47 PM
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I would be curious to know what the byangle of elevation would be on the 7mm MAG for a distance of 3 1/2 miles? On level ground, maximum range would be achieved at a 45 degree angle. No, this is only valid in a vacuum. Somewhere around 32 to 33 degrees is the angle for max distance.
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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My neighbor with 5 acres has a range set up that is maybe 40 yards from my fence with a small berm. He managed to shoot two top strands in half on my barbed wire fence. I have yet to deal with him, but there is no doubt his rounds are coming on my property. Maybe I need to call the sheriff.
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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My neighbor with 5 acres has a range set up that is maybe 40 yards from my fence with a small berm. He managed to shoot two top strands in half on my barbed wire fence. I have yet to deal with him, but there is no doubt his rounds are coming on my property. Maybe I need to call the sheriff. Yeah, I'd say you have a case. I think LEO will leave it up to you on how far they take care of the problem. There's a few of them around on this thread, maybe they'll chime in.
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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My neighbor with 5 acres has a range set up that is maybe 40 yards from my fence with a small berm. He managed to shoot two top strands in half on my barbed wire fence. I have yet to deal with him, but there is no doubt his rounds are coming on my property. Maybe I need to call the sheriff. I have a guy with a small acreage adjoining one of my properties that just moved in recently. Like your deal he was target shooting with rounds passing through the fence(cutting it) and we have cows. I nicely went over and talked to him and he was a totally cool dude. About a week and a half later I go back there and see a huge back stop. Easy 8' high and ~15' + wide. He had had a big truck load of dirt delivered.
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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I have a guy with a small acreage adjoining one of my properties that just moved in recently. Like your deal he was target shooting with rounds passing through the fence(cutting it) and we have cows. I nicely went over and talked to him and he was a totally cool dude. About a week and a half later I go back there and see a huge back stop. Easy 8' high and ~15' + wide. He had had a big truck load of dirt delivered. OUTSTANDING
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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I have a guy with a small acreage adjoining one of my properties that just moved in recently. Like your deal he was target shooting with rounds passing through the fence(cutting it) and we have cows. I nicely went over and talked to him and he was a totally cool dude. About a week and a half later I go back there and see a huge back stop. Easy 8' high and ~15' + wide. He had had a big truck load of dirt delivered. OUTSTANDING Amazing what can happen when rational people communicate rationally.
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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I have a guy with a small acreage adjoining one of my properties that just moved in recently. Like your deal he was target shooting with rounds passing through the fence(cutting it) and we have cows. I nicely went over and talked to him and he was a totally cool dude. About a week and a half later I go back there and see a huge back stop. Easy 8' high and ~15' + wide. He had had a big truck load of dirt delivered. OUTSTANDING Amazing what can happen when rational people communicate rationally. I would always use the term reasonable people. Most are but occasionally there’s that one who isn’t.
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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They're right of course, as much as I hate to make contact with any neighbors. Who knows, after you talk to him, you might even have more to tell the sheriff when you call him.
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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12/03/23 12:49 AM
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Wow! I would be very upset if neighbors bullets were coming on our lease. How could anybody deal with that? How could anyone think that's all right?
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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Frangible very fast projectiles are a good start. I target shoot into giant stumps that have a tank dam behind them. When I hunt, I shoot into a naturally occurring hill from an elevated position. My gang detective office I supervised had a 75% clearance rate on proving GSW's in Fort Worth. Proving it in a rural area would be so easy it wouldn't even be much of a challenge.
So you think everyone has tank dams and stumps that they are shooting at? Everyone hunts from elevated blinds? You guys are insane if you think that’s the reality. Come to the hill country where all you’ll see from an elevated stand is the top of a cedar juniper. In your fantasy land bullets don’t cross property lines, in the real world they do. Hell I used to live near a range, with a dirt stop behind the targets and I’d always hear bullets ricocheting by. My point is, not everyone’s land is the same. Great if you guys can 100% of the time guarantee that your bullet isn’t crossing fence lines; but it’s not that way in all of Texas. You can talk about ideal situations all day long, but the FACT is you're legally responsible for every round that leaves your gun, 3,000 or 20 acres. One is imaginary and the other is real.
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Re: Tx Law 62.0121
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You can talk about ideal situations all day long, but the FACT is you're legally responsible for every round that leaves your gun, 3,000 or 20 acres. One is imaginary and the other is real. And that is the bottom line. You pull the trigger, you own the bullet and are responsible for whatever it does, no matter if you missed your deer, it passed through the deer, or ricocheted and went off property. You own it.
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