3 posts and he said he’s never killed a deer so he’s got some experience to acquire before he finds what he desires hunting wise.

Its all some people know, whatever gets you outdoors I guess is healthy.

No, it does not match the feeling of being an outdoorsman that can quickly scan an area and know how its going to unfold. Knowing the different cycles of wildlife that come in those 40 minute waves after sunrise, that monster buck that you kill whilst he is mounting a doe whilst everyone else is back eating a brunch. Never had otters try to get my attention in a shooting house or the wood ducks on a log across the river on a misty morning. Having a trophy buck at 5 yards and feeling sorry for him enough to let him walk off. A hoot owl drop a half eaten opossum carcass out of a tree that lands next to you. A herd of turkey running head to tail feathers at break neck speed splitting to go around you. The reality that squirrels make more noise than Sasquatch, the reality that squirrels are whisper quiet, likewise are the other critters. That red bird on a limb in a cold gray forrest. The leaf colors, the leaf noises, the leaf smells. The gentle rock of a pine tree when you are 30’ up in a climber in a weird semi conscious state, certain sounds grabbing your attention. Freezing your [censored] off or sweating tears. Whats that rustle, oh a copperhead. A snow covered hardwood creek bottom, the animals pawing for some snacks. A briar patch that has you by the eyelids, lip, and ears at the same time. You are watching a scrape at first dim light on a foggy morning, there he is, now gone like a ghost. Woodpeckers ! Those bizarre days where nothing moves and a squirrel lays flattened on a limb for six hours. (Go home on those days). The first sunny morning after a front. Dark thirty, here he comes, oh dang its an armadillo but off to the right the buck slipped up quiet as a mouse cept the mouse made noise. The buck was as silent as air, and there is another over there. Speaking of air, its a entity of its own. The smell of the rut up close and personal, then there is deer speak. Dang I forgot toilet paper, shirt sleeve or sock ? Why when I pee, a deer shows up within 15 minutes? If they are supposed to run oft when they wind you and everyone is concerned with scent, why is he walking straight toward me from down wind? Wait, why do mature bucks creep with the wind to their rear, do they trust their eyes for whats ahead? Heck, there is a worm, shoulda brought a fishin pole. When I was a kid, deer seldom looked up, now they do..synthetics, UV?

It is absolutely exhilarating and exhaustive being a connected to nature hunter. Put the hunt back in hunting. As for me, there is no substitute for the connection to nature and the open air free range hunting. There is so much more to encompass than the actual killing. Its the knowing that you could kill regardless of weapon, you could be successful with a sharp stick or rock.

FEEL ALIVE !

After slogging thru the Canadian marsh for 5 days I’m looking forward to sitting in a blind

This ^^

Ever notice that when someone posts about their successful, true western, spot and stalk hunt, e.g. the young man that just got back from AK with a mountain goat AND a blacktail buck, there is nary a peep of congratulations outa the low-fence-only zealots...the real hunters...the big men?

Sorry, Creek, but that makes no sense to me. Seems it would be the opposite, if anything. Im probably missing something.

That's undeniable, pure case of BAITING.

It’s a shot at nothing makes them happy, If its not the HF, its the costs, etc


Its always a projection

If only you could go back in time and ask this on the bowsite in their infancy lol. Talk about some bad arguments until Pat cleaned it up. Especially on the old leather wall!

I think its a pretty much moot point/argument today but unless your hunting in brain tanned hides you did yourself, with a spear you made STFU (not you op...just in general)

Even then, STFU lol. To many people hunting/killing for SOMEONE elses approval instead of hunting/killing for their own reasons.

I think I kinda understand, maybe. Thanks Bobo.

Jealousy clouds their happiness for others

Understand even more now.
I agree 100% that jealousy clouds the happiness of and for many. But I don’t see why “low-fence-only zealots” would be singled out as any more jealous than others.

Because they are the only ones ever bashing. You think STX would ever take a shot at what, how, where someone killed an animal, Nope. But several LF zealots sure took shots at him

Bobo, I agree with some of that but not the part about “they are the only ones ever bashing”.
On here there are all kinds of people that bash all kinds of people for all kinds of reasons. Not at all limited to HF/LF or anything else.

The OP's query makes it sound like if it is too easy, convenient, etc., then it would not be hunting, just killing. If that is the case, I hope all my hunting is just killing because hunting can be a lot of work.

Or, maybe this is a styles thing, where if you don't hunt like I think people should hunt, you aren't hunting and you aren't a hunter.

However, I am going to have to go with the legal default here. The GW and Texas state law say that it is hunting and requires a license, ergo, it is hunting.


https://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/outdoor-annual/hunting/general-regulations/definitions



https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/PW/htm/PW.1.htm

I'm only referencing Hunting. OT is an exercise in mental gymnastics, which I should probably avoid more.

Those that often criticize others for legal forums or methods of hunting tend to be zealots that A)normally lack the actual experience or B) project about those lack of experiences into something else, money, private, guided etc

The phrase "I have absolutely no desire to hunt Africa," comes to mind, usually posted on some guy's thread about his trip to Africa.

I have absolutely no desire to hunt Africa(as compared to other ways I prefer to spend my time and money).
But, that is a good example, Creek.

X2 on the zealots

Outside of Texas it’s getting bashed if it was killed on private land or with an outfitter. If you’re not hunting over crowded public land it’s not really hunting.

Podcast I listen to, guy has it out for a private land hunter. Like really, a guy who has access to private land is less than in your eyes because of opportunity?

Big game hunters are some of the most divisive people in any group I know that exists.

I used to feel the same way about Africa until I actually went.....6 times. Africa has to be seen to be believed, and consider myself blessed to have experienced the unbelievable hunting, the remoteness of Namibia, and the fantastic Namibian people.

Yelp, its crazy amount of projections I see.

"Transference", I believe, is the term.

Right up there with fly fishermen.