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Re: Done with Vortex-need RF bino recs
[Re: 603Country]
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10/22/23 10:23 PM
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J.G.
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You guys do what you want, but I still prefer to have the Binoculars and the RF separate. Good binoculars will last forever or until somebody says you need to upgrade. I’m on my third RF. Leica binocs and a Leica RF. I want to carry one extra piece of glass, not two. Different strokes for different folks.
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Re: Done with Vortex-need RF bino recs
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10/22/23 10:40 PM
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603Country
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It probably matters a lot where a fellow hunts. If on unfamiliar ground, the RF might be needed a lot. And if making really long shots, a RF is necessary. But me…I just range to landmarks and then put the RF back in my bag.
It’s easy to replace a RF, and new ones are always coming available, but my binoculars are great.
Not my monkeys, not my circus...
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Re: Done with Vortex-need RF bino recs
[Re: flintknapper]
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10/22/23 11:06 PM
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I can assure you it isn't 'free'.
You paid for their 'cost' to manufacture/replace another Scope/Bino/Rangfinder in the retail cost of your first purchased item.
No company (with as many returns as Vortex) can afford to replace their products for 'free'. There are plenty of consumers out there gullible enough to be sucked into buying their products on that 'warranty' promise, however.
Yep. It's easy for them to give the warranty replacements when all but the top line of their product is made overseas for a small percent of the retail sale price. Judging from what I see people using, the vast majority buy the lower models, so If they do have to replace a Razor, it probably has that covered too. Personally, when I see a Razor priced with a Nightforce or Kahles, Im going with what has done me right.
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Re: Done with Vortex-need RF bino recs
[Re: freerange]
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10/23/23 12:49 AM
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if you dont need ballastics
lecia geo R and GPO range guide are great buy I didnt need ballistics and I dont think anyone told me about those. They are quality RF binos, just no ballistics....? they werent really out when you got yours but yes good glass. Lecia just revamped the geo-R’s this year, but they are bigger then your pro’s. GPO’s just released last year’ish on theirs. I personally just got to play with them a few months ago.
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Re: Done with Vortex-need RF bino recs
[Re: txtrophy85]
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10/23/23 12:59 AM
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I can only compare the ones I have but my Kahles 624 Gen2/7-35 ATACR don’t have quite the quality glass as my Gen 3 Vortex and it’s easy to find them(Vortex) at 1000.00 less than the NF for sure not sure what Kahles are going for these days.
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Re: Done with Vortex-need RF bino recs
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10/23/23 01:29 AM
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txtrophy85
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It probably matters a lot where a fellow hunts. If on unfamiliar ground, the RF might be needed a lot. And if making really long shots, a RF is necessary. But me…I just range to landmarks and then put the RF back in my bag.
It’s easy to replace a RF, and new ones are always coming available, but my binoculars are great. I hunted for years with no rangefinder but when I discovered them in a binocular I don’t want to live without them. I don’t rifle hunt much anymore and lean towards a small handheld for bowhunting but they are nice to have. I’m not good at judging distance and constantly overestimate yardage. They are a helpful tool. I played with the vortex this evening. I don’t hate them, I’m just upset at the opportunity missed at the moose. Should I have hit the moose 3 times instead of 2 with the rangefinder? Did I rush when I ranged him? Lots of things I’m looking back at. I’ll chalk it up to “one of those things” and let it go for now. I’ll finish up the season with the Fury’s and then make a decision on which glass to go with from there.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Done with Vortex-need RF bino recs
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10/23/23 01:40 AM
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That would thoroughly piss me off too txtrophy85.
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Re: Done with Vortex-need RF bino recs
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10/23/23 03:10 PM
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Was the moose story in the Canadian thread? It appeared too long a story and I was busy about then so I never read it. If a RF cost you an animal then Ill go back and read.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Done with Vortex-need RF bino recs
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10/23/23 04:03 PM
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txtrophy85
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Was the moose story in the Canadian thread? It appeared too long a story and I was busy about then so I never read it. If a RF cost you an animal then Ill go back and read. We called in a big bull. A few days prior to had lost my hand held rangefinder but I still had my fury’s. I ranged him twice and it showed 30 yards, I drew back and set my 30 yard pin. Ended up shooting under him; he was actually around 55 yards. Only thing I can think of was the rangefinder picked up a small spruce tree that was in the foreground instead of the moose
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Done with Vortex-need RF bino recs
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10/23/23 07:03 PM
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SIG RFB, no connection to blue tube. They are Great but probably a little heavy for mountain climbing. I guess this the negative. They are very clear and range accurately.
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Re: Done with Vortex-need RF bino recs
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10/24/23 01:52 PM
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Sig kilo 6k have been doing me solid so far
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Re: Done with Vortex-need RF bino recs
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10/24/23 02:14 PM
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Jgraider
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SIG RFB, no connection to blue tube. They are Great but probably a little heavy for mountain climbing. I guess this the negative. They are very clear and range accurately. Good looking rifle Buzz, love that paint job on that stock.
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Re: Done with Vortex-need RF bino recs
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10/24/23 10:33 PM
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Buzzsaw
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SIG RFB, no connection to blue tube. They are Great but probably a little heavy for mountain climbing. I guess this the negative. They are very clear and range accurately. Good looking rifle Buzz, love that paint job on that stock.
SPACE FOR RENT
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Re: Done with Vortex-need RF bino recs
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10/25/23 03:17 AM
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txtrophy85
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Agreed. Very nice rifle Buzz
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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