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Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/20/23 04:18 PM
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/20/23 04:40 PM
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They are so loud they are not the best archery option for Texas deer.
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/20/23 05:05 PM
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I use one because of two surgeries on my right shoulder that didn't completely fix the rotator cuff problems. I do miss using my compound bow as it was way quieter and I miss the chance on multiple shots on piglets after the sow goes down.
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/20/23 07:13 PM
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I’m with Old Rabbit. Surgery on both shoulders has relegated me to the crossbow ranks. That stat could possibly be tied to the overall aging hunter population.
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/20/23 07:25 PM
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Another shoulder surgery recipient.
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/20/23 07:45 PM
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I’m with Old Rabbit. Surgery on both shoulders has relegated me to the crossbow ranks. That stat could possibly be tied to the overall aging hunter population. THIS
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/20/23 07:55 PM
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I’m with Old Rabbit. Surgery on both shoulders has relegated me to the crossbow ranks. That stat could possibly be tied to the overall aging hunter population. THIS Going to buy my first one this year.
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/20/23 07:59 PM
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Transparently, I've had a crossbow for over 15 years which complemented my compound bow nicely. Two elbow surgeries since have probably pushed me to the CB permanently now.
I also agree the increase is likely a product of the rising hunter average age.
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/20/23 08:49 PM
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Here we go with the STUPID supremacy? Use a sharp stick or a rock or you just ain’t a hunter
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/20/23 10:50 PM
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Im not a fan of crossbows during archery season unless a person has an upper limb disability that prevents them from drawing a compound bow. The weapon has a rifle stock and in most cases an optic…it goes against what archery seasons were originally created for.
During general season, sure, by all means go for it. I’ll even support it and I do think they are a great weapon for kids to use. I feel the same about modern inline muzzle loaders with scope being allowed during muzzleloader season…some of these guns are shooting a sabot bullet 2700-2800 fps. You are using a single shot centerfire rifle for all intents and purposes at that point.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/20/23 11:14 PM
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Im not a fan of crossbows during archery season unless a person has an upper limb disability that prevents them from drawing a compound bow. The weapon has a rifle stock and in most cases an optic…it goes against what archery seasons were originally created for. Just curious as to what your option of an upper limb disability is. I used my compound after my first Orthoscopic rotator cuff repair. I did lots of physical therapy and shot several times a week for months to get back up to 60# draw weight. Anything above that weight and there would be an audible pop that hurt like heck and alerted the deer to my location. When my right bicep tendon started to tear off of the shoulder attachment points and the rotator cuff had progressed to where I couldn't sleep on my right side, had to get a zipper put in my shoulder. The surgeon repaired what he could of the cuff and relocated the bicep tendons (long and short head) down my humorous about 1" from the head of the bone. I asked when I could start weights and he told me those days are over. I asked about shooting a bow and he just shook his head. This year I may have to go to a hand crank to be able to use the crossbow as at 67 years of age, pulling the rope pully is getting painful and I don't want the replacement shoulder joint he said was coming next.
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/20/23 11:33 PM
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Im not a fan of crossbows during archery season unless a person has an upper limb disability that prevents them from drawing a compound bow. The weapon has a rifle stock and in most cases an optic…it goes against what archery seasons were originally created for. Just curious as to what your option of an upper limb disability is. I used my compound after my first Orthoscopic rotator cuff repair. I did lots of physical therapy and shot several times a week for months to get back up to 60# draw weight. Anything above that weight and there would be an audible pop that hurt like heck and alerted the deer to my location. When my right bicep tendon started to tear off of the shoulder attachment points and the rotator cuff had progressed to where I couldn't sleep on my right side, had to get a zipper put in my shoulder. The surgeon repaired what he could of the cuff and relocated the bicep tendons (long and short head) down my humorous about 1" from the head of the bone. I asked when I could start weights and he told me those days are over. I asked about shooting a bow and he just shook his head. This year I may have to go to a hand crank to be able to use the crossbow as at 67 years of age, pulling the rope pully is getting painful and I don't want the replacement shoulder joint he said was coming next. I would say you would certainly qualify. I have no issues with a person such as yourself using a X-bow during archery season. What I’m against is a Person who has never shot a bow, picking up a crossbow and going into the woods during archery season and hunting. We hunted in Argentina with two guys using a crossbow. One had been in a hunting accident as a youth and I don’t believe could draw a bow. The other guy was just not willing to put the time in. Shot a Raven crossbow that shot a bolt 400+fps and had a scope. 60 yard shots were nothing. Now here we are on a “ archery only” hunt but he had a definite advantage over the vertical bow guys, which went against the original archery only purpose to begin with. He might as well shot a suppressed rifle, it would have accomplished the same thing. In Texas it’s not as big a concern but in other states with long archery season and limited Quota and more competition by hunters for game, it certainly is a concern as archers are having to share a special weapon season with folks who want a shortcut.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/20/23 11:43 PM
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/20/23 11:51 PM
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Never got the desire to hunt with a bow but was glad to see crossbows become legal for anyone who wanted to give them a try.
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/20/23 11:56 PM
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I do not have any disabilities and can use a vertical bow just fine. I prefer to hunt with my crossbow. It just makes sense the way I hunt. I have not picked up a vertical bow in the last 10 years.
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/21/23 12:02 AM
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There should be just deer season, no room for supremacist
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/21/23 12:02 AM
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Im not a fan of crossbows during archery season unless a person has an upper limb disability that prevents them from drawing a compound bow. The weapon has a rifle stock and in most cases an optic…it goes against what archery seasons were originally created for.
During general season, sure, by all means go for it. I’ll even support it and I do think they are a great weapon for kids to use. I feel the same about modern inline muzzle loaders with scope being allowed during muzzleloader season…some of these guns are shooting a sabot bullet 2700-2800 fps. You are using a single shot centerfire rifle for all intents and purposes at that point. I am not a fan of compound bows during archery season. It goes against what archery season was originally created for!!!! Not to mention metal broadheads, sights, releases, range finders, etc. they need to make archery season where you can only use homemade traditional bows made from local trees and you will have to knapp your own flint arrow heads!!!!
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/21/23 01:07 AM
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Im not a fan of crossbows during archery season unless a person has an upper limb disability that prevents them from drawing a compound bow. The weapon has a rifle stock and in most cases an optic…it goes against what archery seasons were originally created for.
During general season, sure, by all means go for it. I’ll even support it and I do think they are a great weapon for kids to use. I feel the same about modern inline muzzle loaders with scope being allowed during muzzleloader season…some of these guns are shooting a sabot bullet 2700-2800 fps. You are using a single shot centerfire rifle for all intents and purposes at that point. I am not a fan of compound bows during archery season. It goes against what archery season was originally created for!!!! Not to mention metal broadheads, sights, releases, range finders, etc. they need to make archery season where you can only use homemade traditional bows made from local trees and you will have to knapp your own flint arrow heads!!!! Archery seasons are a relatively new thing. Wisconsin had the first archery season in 1934. It wasn’t legal in many states until the 50’s and 60’s. Recurve bows and metal broadheads had been around for quite some time at that point. What you’re describing is called primitive archery which uses self bows and flint knapped tips. My issue with crossbows stem more from the optics that most wear. I wouldn’t really have an issue with them if they would outlaw the optics and make it sight pin only during archery season. Cross bows have been around a long, long time. They are not a new invention. The optics are.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/21/23 01:32 AM
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"If you don't hunt the way I hunt, then you are wrong"......... slippery slope. Heard a Baptist say beer and wine was ok, but hard liquor was a sin......... Bait/no bait; high fence/low fence/no fence...
Hunters need to stick together.
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/21/23 02:15 AM
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"If you don't hunt the way I hunt, then you are wrong"......... slippery slope. Heard a Baptist say beer and wine was ok, but hard liquor was a sin......... Bait/no bait; high fence/low fence/no fence...
Hunters need to stick together. Agree for the most part. They could just issue tags and it be for any weapon. I would still bow hunt and wouldn’t be an issue for anyone. The rub ( for me at least ) is when someone is trying to gain a great advantage during a special, not general season. However, the states are allowing it and crossbows are becoming more common place as states are opening up archery seasons to them that were previously closed. And they are great at getting and keeping hunters in the game, no doubt about it. Its a common topic in archery circles; compound guys don’t like crossbow guys, recurve and longbow guys think a compound is cheating and guys using self bows are in a league all their own ( deservedly so). It’s almost a parallel to what happened with Muzzleloader seasons…originally, before in lines were invented, guys shot Hawken and Kentucky flintlocks. Then they came out with inlines, then pyrodex, then sabot bullets, then scopes, before you know it in-lines were just as effective as a centerfire rifle and the guys still using period era weapons are like “hey, what the hell?” I don’t think that crossbow hunters are “wrong” I just question the weapons use in certain seasons by the general public. That said, I’ve encouraged guys to take advantage of new ways of hunting and recommended crossbows to several. I would much rather have a guy shooting and killing with a crossbow than not practicing, shooting and wounding with a vertical bow
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/21/23 02:40 AM
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There should be just deer season, no room for supremacist Don't blame hunters, blame the equipment manufacturers and state wildlife agencies who saw separate seasons as a way to generate more revenue. I can remember when you had to pay an extra license fee to hunt during bow season.
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/21/23 02:54 AM
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There should be just deer season, no room for supremacist Don't blame hunters, blame the equipment manufacturers and state wildlife agencies who saw separate seasons as a way to generate more revenue. I can remember when you had to pay an extra license fee to hunt during bow season. You still have to have an archery endorsement on your Texas license. Other states you are issued archery tags. Some are archery only some are for any weapon, but bound to certain seasons. For instance I buy an elk tag in Colorado. I can use the tag during any season. But if I use it during archery season and fail to fill it, I cannot come back during muzzle loader or general rifle. Archery seasons were originally designed to give archers ( who have a lower chance of success) a little bit of a break by hunting unpressured animals before the general firearms season started. I’m a few years shy of 40 and remember when archery was considered more of a novelty rather than a legitimate hunting method.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/21/23 02:58 AM
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I definitely stick to my guns and won’t begrudge a weapon devised before the 7th century BC.
A season should be a season, Rock or Laser
I’m of the mindset a true hunter will succeed regardless, so called “advantages” be darned.
Its why the whole method of take is something meatheads came up with.
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Re: Crossbows Becoming the Norm
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07/21/23 04:35 AM
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I switched to a crossbow years ago when i found that I didn't have the time (or chose not to) practice with my compound. I scrapped the compound a few years back when a sounder of hogs came in and i could only shoot one. Now I hog hunt during bow season and deer hunt in the mornings of deer season. Hog hunt in the evenings of deer season, but can still kill a deer with my A/R if I see one that I want to take.
IMO, the hard part about bow hunting is getting close enough for a shot - whether with a bow to crossbow.
JR
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