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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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07/16/23 11:38 PM
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GasGuzzler
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Mowed my SA Wednesday and today just before the rain.
The top is crabgrass and neither is Dallisgrass. I should have taken some pics of BIG Dallisgrass on the golf course today.
Pass the gravy.
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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07/17/23 02:11 PM
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Great looking lawn TPack
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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07/17/23 02:48 PM
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Derek
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Top is crab. Bottom very well could be button. Quinclorac is great against grab, downside is Quin really needs metalated seed oil surfactant added in to work best. It's a little hot for MSO and it can yellow, but will grow/mow out quickly. Quin won't do a whole lot for Button.
I'd go with Celsius and Dismiss with a non ionic surfactant. Mix per 1000sq feet blanket spray would be 3.2 grams Celsius, 8ml Dismiss and 1/2 tablespoon of NIS. Dissolve/mix the herbicides first then add surfactant last. You could also add MSM as a nice kicker. All that is a safe mix in our hit.
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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07/17/23 03:14 PM
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Thanks again Derek, I’ve got everything on hand so I’ll be hammering it today. Would it be advisable to put down some more Gallery now since it’s rained so much for the spurge or simply fight through the rest of the year? It’s very obvious all my pre emergents have been washed away at this point and I’ve never encountered this situation before so I’m not sure what to so. I went from having a completely weed free yard to weeds popping up everywhere mid summer.
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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07/17/23 03:30 PM
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Derek
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Y'alls rain has been crazy. I would wait on the Pre. We're basically 4-6 weeks out on a full pre treatment. Crab your pre is going to be Prodiamine or Dimension. Button/Broads is Gallery. I like Prodiamine at 6 month rates and Gallery applied at 3 month rates. If I was running Dimension/Gallery I would apply them together every 3 months.
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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07/17/23 03:35 PM
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10/4, I’ll hold off until then.
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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07/18/23 01:17 AM
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Great looking lawn TPack X's 2!
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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07/18/23 06:24 PM
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well, sounds like I will have to just let my SA burn up, just went to stage 3 water restrictions, no outdoor watering via sprinkler including hose end sprinklers ... torques me since they continue to allow developers to build thousands of new homes without upgraded the infrastructure of water to match demand, much less upcoming demands with all the new builds.
"everyone that lives dies but not everyone who dies lived..."
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: PMK]
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07/18/23 07:33 PM
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Derek
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well, sounds like I will have to just let my SA burn up, just went to stage 3 water restrictions, no outdoor watering via sprinkler including hose end sprinklers ... torques me since they continue to allow developers to build thousands of new homes without upgraded the infrastructure of water to match demand, much less upcoming demands with all the new builds. Dang! That is a hard core restriction. Thankfully my county has never put on a restriction. I would be real tempted to water at 1am or so and run one hell of a fungicide program. At least until I got busted. I'm sure there is a Karen driving around at night looking for violators.
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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07/19/23 05:29 PM
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yep, I have given that a lot of thought and think I live off the beaten path enough that even a Karen driving around at night wouldn't see the sprinklers, but hard to explain a fairly green lawn after a week or two.
They only places these restrictions towards the western portion of the city, where there are literally thousands of new homes recently built or in the process of being built. This also includes Cimarron Hill gold course community (ultra wealthy homes) ... will be interesting to see if their course changes watering.
"everyone that lives dies but not everyone who dies lived..."
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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07/19/23 05:37 PM
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Gonna look real suspicious when your lawn is the only healthy green one in the hood Karen’s will be out in force.
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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07/31/23 04:02 PM
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What are you guy that have grasshoppers using to keep them off your lawn and how often. I`ve applied Bifen XTS 3 times this year ( every 4 weeks). My last application did a great job for 3 weeks and then they seemed to not to be affected by it nearly as much. It still killed most of them, but not nearly as quick as when I first sprayed it. I guess when you live in the country, you have to take the good with the bad.
For a 0.03% dilution mix 1/6 fl. oz. / 1 gal. water (1 fluid oz. = 2 tablespoons)
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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08/01/23 12:36 AM
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Grasshoppers are thick here and affecting the greens at the municipal golf course but not my yard at all. Must be Bermuda vs. St Augustine.
Pass the gravy.
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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08/01/23 05:24 PM
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Hey Derek, A friend sent me this picture of his back yard today. Said it started out with a 4' circle and spread over 3-4 days. He sprayed for fungus (don`t know what he sprayed though) and asked for my thoughts. I asked him to check for cinch bugs and thought the heat off his wall possibly might be the problem. I know he waters plenty because I was there last week and this wasn`t bad when I was there. I pretty sure he would have checked for grubs and he told me last week that he put down Imidacloprid this year.
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: GasGuzzler]
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08/01/23 05:46 PM
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Derek
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Starting in a 3-4 circle does point to one of the Patch diseases. For sure check for chinch bugs where the green meets the brown. They almost always stay in the sunny spots and avoid the shady areas. See what he sprayed.
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: Derek]
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08/01/23 07:22 PM
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Grasshoppers are thick here and affecting the greens at the municipal golf course but not my yard at all. Must be Bermuda vs. St Augustine. Starting in a 3-4 circle does point to one of the Patch diseases. For sure check for chinch bugs where the green meets the brown. They almost always stay in the sunny spots and avoid the shady areas. See what he sprayed. He sprayed Azoxystrobin on Saturday which doesn`t do anything to Dollar Spot if that is the problem. He checked for chinch bugs and didn`t see any. . Just in case it might still be a fungus, I offered some of my Propiconazole if he wanted it. You throw enough $hit on the wall and somethings bound to stick on it. I told him not to worry because you can`t kill Bermuda grass. I had 3 places in my lawn last September that started out looking like it needed watering and the more I watered the worse it got. It finally got down to where you could see only the runners and bare ground. I was put out with no rain and high temps and said F it. This spring I hit those spots with a little more N than the rest, we had some decent rainfall, and they are as thicker this year ever.
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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08/01/23 11:48 PM
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I don't think it's Dollar Spot. DS will typically look like multiple spots of dog pee stain/kills and not a 3-4' circle and why I'm thinking something like large patch. If so Azox was the right move, especially spraying it, Prop right on top of that would be good too. See if he can get some close up pics where the brown meets the green to see if there are any identifying blade lesions like aids lol. He looked for chinch and they are pretty small. A soap test on the green/brown would be a good idea just to be sure. I would probably get a app of Bifen or some other insecticide just in case.
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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08/02/23 12:30 AM
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Mowed yesterday. I need to level my yard badly, maybe next year.
'It's Only Treason if You Lose."
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
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08/02/23 01:45 AM
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Mowed yesterday. I need to level my yard badly, maybe next year. Looks really good! I've been saying the last 5 years I need to level my yard and then my laziness kicks in. Love the sidewalk.
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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08/02/23 04:25 AM
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Oh knowledgeable Derek...
Bermuda Grass Lawn, in its third summer.
We have been on water rationing for a month already, and we are not to the bad part of summer, yet. Two weeks of no landscape watering at all. Now in the second week of once per week, in a narrow time window.
I have a half acre with 18 zones. I cannot put enough water on the lawn in 8 hours to keep the lawn green. A few spots are somewhat green, where zones overlap, 50% of the area are only a trace of green, and 50% is probably already dormant.
What is best for the long-term survival of the lawn. Do I continue to put a little water on it each week or do I stop watering all together? Do I select a portion of the lawn to keep green and let the rest go dormate?
We are expecting the tighter restriction to be back by the end of August. unless it turns unusually wet.
We all need to practice Whoa more.
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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08/02/23 02:34 PM
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Derek
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What does your fertilizer program look like? Have you done an irrigation audit to see how long each zone has to run to get down a 1/2" of water?
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
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08/03/23 03:43 AM
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What does your fertilizer program look like? Have you done an irrigation audit to see how long each zone has to run to get down a 1/2" of water? I have been spraying liquid fertilizer every other weekend. Alternating between 20-20-20 and something else, for a total of 1/2# nitrogen/1000 each month. I can only get down 480 gallons an hour for 8 hours, once a week. That is a little less than 1/4" a week, if it were spread perfectly. I had to be at almost an inch per week to keep it green last year during the 100+ heat. A 1/4" is just not making much impact. I am thinking about shutting down most of the zone and just watering the back yard.
We all need to practice Whoa more.
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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08/03/23 04:49 PM
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Spraying 0.25lbs of NPK every two weeks is pretty spicy in this heat. If you're running enough carrier like 2-3gal per 1K you're probably ok. I try not to go over 0.10 at any given spray. Have you considered buying a cheap 13-13-13 granular to spread? You could go out once every 4 weeks at 1/2lb NPK no problem and save yourself time. I like spraying too but I also like my granular program. I like to sling granular then spray iron/nicros and I'll add a little T20 to that mix. On the watering you might be better off doing what you're thinking and concentrate on the areas you want to look that best. If I had to shut down my backyard and could only water the front I would be k with that.
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
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08/03/23 05:34 PM
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Mowed yesterday. I need to level my yard badly, maybe next year. Thats pretty. Level yards are overrated.
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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread
[Re: TPACK]
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08/03/23 06:05 PM
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You want to kill weeds spotspraying them in cracks or along gravel driveways..................get you some gallons of 43 percent vinegar..............Dead in the sun in minutes.
You can even mix in a little water.
And wont hurt your soil
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