I am going to try JGs suggestion of dry firing next outing. I’ve always saw a .5 moa shift after the first round though.

I have found that it can help me "get in the zone." It seems to take a lot of concentration the stay there once you find it, and there are days I just can't do it. Shooting several times a week would surely help. Pretty soon I'll be able to shoot that often.

Map your cold bore shot on a separate target over several days. Compare it with groups shot after cold bore shot. Some rifles put them all in the same group. Some don’t. For the ones that don’t, if you know the adjustment, you can put them all together in the same group.

For me this was my cold shot. 308AR10 @ ~ 80 yds, prone on 31F asphalt, bipod and my hand under the stock. 165gr GC PCd, 2400 fps load. 10 shots each group. Semi rapid fire. Flyers due to shivers. I'm sure it would be worse for a longer range. Same load in summer in sunflower field, did near MOA @200, time to drive gator and reset steel. Typically run a #9 wet patch after shooting to wipe out loose stuff. For me, shooter causes first shot flyer.

Did group II include the hit near the bullseye?

Pretty good shooting right there regardles

Im confused but I stay that way when it comes to shooting stuff. Question-you are asking why cold bore is different than others instead of why are others different than cold bore. Seems like thats an important distinction.
For me, as a hunter, the cold bore is the important one. As Judd said, the rest its probably gonna get western and a hairs difference wont matter.
Maybe, more importantly, I think you got some Goldilocks going on.
I think most anyone would say that if you shoot "a lot" in a row that barrel will heat up and give you some poor shots=porridge is too hot.
Cold bore you are saying is not good either=porridge is too cold.
Your string(how many?) of shots in between you say are real good=porridge is just right.
Thats probably not helpful, but its all I got.
Good luck and Im glad youre aware you may be splitting hairs.

After further thoughts I still stand by my cold bore shift is a thing statement.

Here’s why,

At a match last year I hit the 2” cold bore swinger at 500 yards. Unfortunately so did two other people so the three of us had to do it again. I knew exactly where my cold bore was going to hit Vs the next shot and aimed accordingly. I hit it again, the other two didn’t.

Two different points of aim, same impact, 2” at 500 yards.

I might add that I did terrible the rest of the match and packed up quickly so there’s that.

group II include the hit near the bullseye?
Yes, called flyer, 'C'. Definitely ME. Prone on parking area, shooting at a berm, jeans and sweat shirt after the sleet storm prev. night in NW Ar. 1:10 DPMS LR308 16" barrel. All shots from mag.

I guess I have gotten lucky over the years as all I have ever seen or experienced is a cold shooter issue versus a true cold bore shift.

Of course the rifle is ZEROED and zero stop is set and ballistic chart run. JEEZ JG, give me a little credit

wp, thats good shooting. Curious, if you hadnt adjusted point of aim, how far off would the shot of been?

Zero stop set?

Where, a hard stop at zero?

If so, what happnes when you need to move your zero down, and you're up against the stop. I know what happens. You remove your turret, move your zero stop, then try to zero the scope again. I leave about .5 Mil down travel available for this reason.

I say again, if the zero isn't good, then the rest is irrelevant.

you're like my old boss who just died from being Mr. negative.

It's not about negative or positive. It is about proper steps to take, to make things work in someone's favor.

gotcha

Attempting to prove first cold shot to be rifle or shooter would be a chore. Need a led sled type rest, fire cold, then another. Wait a day and try again. Problem with led sled is it secures the barrel so free floated or bedded, changes harmonics. So use a spring loaded tie-down on the sling point of the forearm? Is it possible to have a cold bore flyer? Yes, proving it is something else. The warehouse gang verified but I'm not going to try.

Terrible advice.

Sleds and vices make them shoot different. They are prohibited on my range.

If shooter is the error, become a better shooter.

It is not hard to prove. Document everything, every time you shoot. POI compared to POA, day after day. When you see a pattern (.2 Mil high, .2 Mil right) as an example on every cold bore shot, it is not the shooter.

some members need to work on their people skills


besides me of course

Buzz, you were in sales, right?

Some members need thicker skin and more developed brains.

Sneaky and I reading from the same sheet of music again.

great song , love to hear ya'll sing, .

yes but the only way you can get the gun to shoot the same every time, mechanically.

That is still false, no matter how many times you write it.

It might be the case for you, but not the whole world.

JG what is your standard shooting setup?

Need a gear rundown.

Atlas bipod and weebad bag?