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Carrying a concealed Handgun in Public - LTC needed? #8843827 05/01/23 01:23 PM
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Since Texas went constitutional carry, if you carry a pistol concealed do you still need to carry your LTC/CHL with you when you are walking in public?

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In Texas as of 2021, people who qualify under the law can carry a handgun in a public place in Texas without a license to carry (LTC). Texans can still apply for an LTC since it may carry additional benefits. this applies for concealed or NOT concealed.
Sections 46.02 and 46.04 of the Texas Penal Code describe unlawful carry and possession of a firearm. Generally, to carry a handgun in public in Texas without an LTC, a person must:

Be at least 21 years old (Note: a recent court decision may affect the age restriction)
Not have a prior felony conviction as described in Section 46.04
Not have a recent conviction for certain types of misdemeanors as described in Sections 46.02 and 46.04
Not be subject to an unexpired protective order as described in Section 46.04(c)
Not be restricted from possessing a firearm under federal law as described in 18 United States Code Section 922(g)
Not be intoxicated, except in certain situations as described in Section 46.02(a-6)
These changes did not give the right to carry a handgun to anyone who was prohibited before the amendment took effect. Section 2 of HB 1927 states:


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Originally Posted by Bass&More
In Texas as of 2021, people who qualify under the law can carry a handgun in a public place in Texas without a license to carry (LTC). Texans can still apply for an LTC since it may carry additional benefits. this applies for concealed or NOT concealed.
Sections 46.02 and 46.04 of the Texas Penal Code describe unlawful carry and possession of a firearm. Generally, to carry a handgun in public in Texas without an LTC, a person must:

Be at least 21 years old (Note: a recent court decision may affect the age restriction)
Not have a prior felony conviction as described in Section 46.04
Not have a recent conviction for certain types of misdemeanors as described in Sections 46.02 and 46.04
Not be subject to an unexpired protective order as described in Section 46.04(c)
Not be restricted from possessing a firearm under federal law as described in 18 United States Code Section 922(g)
Not be intoxicated, except in certain situations as described in Section 46.02(a-6)
These changes did not give the right to carry a handgun to anyone who was prohibited before the amendment took effect. Section 2 of HB 1927 states:


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So that means you can carry in public like on sidewalks without a LTC with the gun concealed?

Re: Carrying a concealed Handgun in Public - LTC needed? [Re: RedRanger] #8843856 05/01/23 01:51 PM
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Yes you can.

My best answer however is to do the research yourself. There are still areas where you can carry with LTC and not just CC as they call it.
LTC still has benefits that you don't get not having one.


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Originally Posted by kwrhuntinglab
Yes you can.

My best answer however is to do the research yourself. There are still areas where you can carry with LTC and not just CC as they call it.
LTC still has benefits that you don't get not having one.


Gotcha, I wanted to carry on my morning walks before sun came up in case of Coyote attack, I just didn't want to have to grab a licenses to carry with me as well each trip.

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Originally Posted by RedRanger
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Yes you can.

My best answer however is to do the research yourself. There are still areas where you can carry with LTC and not just CC as they call it.
LTC still has benefits that you don't get not having one.


Gotcha, I wanted to carry on my morning walks before sun came up in case of Coyote attack, I just didn't want to have to grab a licenses to carry with me as well each trip.



Still might want to have a drivers license with you, especially if you are carrying a gun.


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Yes you can.

My best answer however is to do the research yourself. There are still areas where you can carry with LTC and not just CC as they call it.
LTC still has benefits that you don't get not having one.


Gotcha, I wanted to carry on my morning walks before sun came up in case of Coyote attack, I just didn't want to have to grab a licenses to carry with me as well each trip.



Still might want to have a drivers license with you, especially if you are carrying a gun.


So then that kinda contradicts the laws, I would rather carry a LTC instead of DL.

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you might want to try a loud yell or pepper spray for Frisco neighborhood coyotes. They shouldn't bother you unless you're trolling with your tiny dog.

Doubt the Frisco POPO would like you shooting your Nina in a neighborhood.

Now, two legged varmints, DEFINITLY carry your Pistola.

BTW, you probably know Frisco has a new set of two legged POS stealing jewelry right off your body.


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Originally Posted by RedRanger
Originally Posted by kwrhuntinglab
Yes you can.

My best answer however is to do the research yourself. There are still areas where you can carry with LTC and not just CC as they call it.
LTC still has benefits that you don't get not having one.


Gotcha, I wanted to carry on my morning walks before sun came up in case of Coyote attack, I just didn't want to have to grab a licenses to carry with me as well each trip.

How much does your firearm weigh?
How much does your LTC or DL card weigh?


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I am still looking for the perfect apron, one with reinforced knee areas would be perfect.

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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
you might want to try a loud yell or pepper spray for Frisco neighborhood coyotes. They shouldn't bother you unless you're trolling with your tiny dog.

Doubt the Frisco POPO would like you shooting your Nina in a neighborhood.

Now, two legged varmints, DEFINITLY carry your Pistola.

BTW, you probably know Frisco has a new set of two legged POS stealing jewelry right off your body.


We had 7 coyotes attacks in my area a few years ago, One lady jogger had to be rushed to emergency room for surgery

Frisco Police was rolling up and down El Doradao from Preston to Coit before sunrise with lights off alot back then, They even had guys walking fake dogs on leashes with guns by their sides. I walk every morning before sunrise for years, seen all this stuff in person.

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Originally Posted by The Dude Abides
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Originally Posted by kwrhuntinglab
Yes you can.

My best answer however is to do the research yourself. There are still areas where you can carry with LTC and not just CC as they call it.
LTC still has benefits that you don't get not having one.


Gotcha, I wanted to carry on my morning walks before sun came up in case of Coyote attack, I just didn't want to have to grab a licenses to carry with me as well each trip.

How much does your firearm weigh?
How much does your LTC or DL card weigh?


I carry a hammerless SW titanium in a belt bag and it's very light, I also have my cellphone so I can listen to music.

I just don't want to be opening my wallet and transfering a DL or LTC each morning, I am usually out the door around 5:30 am, I am prone to loose stuff........

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Originally Posted by RedRanger
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Yes you can.

My best answer however is to do the research yourself. There are still areas where you can carry with LTC and not just CC as they call it.
LTC still has benefits that you don't get not having one.


Gotcha, I wanted to carry on my morning walks before sun came up in case of Coyote attack, I just didn't want to have to grab a licenses to carry with me as well each trip.



Still might want to have a drivers license with you, especially if you are carrying a gun.


So then that kinda contradicts the laws, I would rather carry a LTC instead of DL.


Doesn't contradict anything... You are supposed to have Id on you pretty much anytime out in public. You are still required to carry your DL along with LTC if you have one.


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And if you don't have your ID , not a thing will happen to you

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Doesn't contradict anything... You are supposed to have Id on you pretty much anytime out in public. You are still required to carry your DL along with LTC if you have one.


Never heard that in my life you are suppose to have ID on you out in public, Where did you get this from? I can promise you in America this isn't a law or a requirment

Please let me see the Texas law or Federal law that says one is suppose to have ID in public

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Originally Posted by RedRanger
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Yes you can.

My best answer however is to do the research yourself. There are still areas where you can carry with LTC and not just CC as they call it.
LTC still has benefits that you don't get not having one.


Gotcha, I wanted to carry on my morning walks before sun came up in case of Coyote attack, I just didn't want to have to grab a licenses to carry with me as well each trip.

How much does your firearm weigh?
How much does your LTC or DL card weigh?


I carry a hammerless SW titanium in a belt bag and it's very light, I also have my cellphone so I can listen to music.

I just don't want to be opening my wallet and transfering a DL or LTC each morning, I am usually out the door around 5:30 am, I am prone to loose stuff........


Well...just drop that ID into your "belt bag". You probably won't lose your firearm so I doubt you will lose your ID.

Good luck!


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I carry a hammerless SW titanium in a belt bag and it's very light, I also have my cellphone so I can listen to music.

I just don't want to be opening my wallet and transfering a DL or LTC each morning, I am usually out the door around 5:30 am, I am prone to loose stuff........


Well...just drop that ID into your fanny pack. You probably won't lose your firearm so I doubt you will lose your ID.

Good luck!


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If you carry your cell phone with you, take a picture of your DL and your CCW.

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Originally Posted by RedRanger
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you might want to try a loud yell or pepper spray for Frisco neighborhood coyotes. They shouldn't bother you unless you're trolling with your tiny dog.

Doubt the Frisco POPO would like you shooting your Nina in a neighborhood.

Now, two legged varmints, DEFINITLY carry your Pistola.

BTW, you probably know Frisco has a new set of two legged POS stealing jewelry right off your body.


We had 7 coyotes attacks in my area a few years ago, One lady jogger had to be rushed to emergency room for surgery

Frisco Police was rolling up and down El Doradao from Preston to Coit before sunrise with lights off alot back then, They even had guys walking fake dogs on leashes with guns by their sides. I walk every morning before sunrise for years, seen all this stuff in person.


That's wild. I thought the comment about carrying in case of coyote attack was a joke at first.


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Originally Posted by Old Rabbit
If you carry your cell phone with you, take a picture of your DL and your CCW.


Great plan, Would that suffice the laws requirments?

It there is a law requirment, I thought we had alot of police guys on this forum

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you might want to try a loud yell or pepper spray for Frisco neighborhood coyotes. They shouldn't bother you unless you're trolling with your tiny dog.

Doubt the Frisco POPO would like you shooting your Nina in a neighborhood.

Now, two legged varmints, DEFINITLY carry your Pistola.

BTW, you probably know Frisco has a new set of two legged POS stealing jewelry right off your body.


We had 7 coyotes attacks in my area a few years ago, One lady jogger had to be rushed to emergency room for surgery

Frisco Police was rolling up and down El Doradao from Preston to Coit before sunrise with lights off alot back then, They even had guys walking fake dogs on leashes with guns by their sides. I walk every morning before sunrise for years, seen all this stuff in person.


That's wild. I thought the comment about carrying in case of coyote attack was a joke at first.


We had 3 attacks in subdivision alone, it was crazy everyone was walking around with a bat or golf club during the day on the walking trails

https://www.keranews.org/texas-news/2019-04-09/whats-behind-the-coyote-attacks-in-north-texas

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WHen out for a walk I wear an Apple watch so i don't need to carry a cell phone. Take a picture of any documents you think you may need and keep them on your watch.

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Originally Posted by RedRanger
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Originally Posted by kwrhuntinglab
Yes you can.

My best answer however is to do the research yourself. There are still areas where you can carry with LTC and not just CC as they call it.
LTC still has benefits that you don't get not having one.


Gotcha, I wanted to carry on my morning walks before sun came up in case of Coyote attack, I just didn't want to have to grab a licenses to carry with me as well each trip.

How much does your firearm weigh?
How much does your LTC or DL card weigh?


I carry a hammerless SW titanium in a belt bag and it's very light, I also have my cellphone so I can listen to music.

I just don't want to be opening my wallet and transfering a DL or LTC each morning, I am usually out the door around 5:30 am, I am prone to loose stuff........

If listening to music using ear buds that's how a 2 legged varmint will get you.

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If you don't want to carry a handgun, something like a cattle prod would work. Back it up with some bear spray and you'd be good to go.


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Originally Posted by RedRanger
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Doesn't contradict anything... You are supposed to have Id on you pretty much anytime out in public. You are still required to carry your DL along with LTC if you have one.


Never heard that in my life you are suppose to have ID on you out in public, Where did you get this from? I can promise you in America this isn't a law or a requirment

Please let me see the Texas law or Federal law that says one is suppose to have ID in public


If you are carrying or driving. Sorry should have elaborated..


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