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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
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05/10/23 01:35 PM
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BigPig
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ive bounced mine out of those too.. lol. but just had them on front wheels
I’ve done it once, it required a ditch at 70mph. Other than that it’s traveled 15,000+ miles strapped like that without issue. There’s too much travel in the suspension to do it any other way.
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
[Re: Brother in-law]
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05/10/23 02:01 PM
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Yet another reason I upgraded to a Timbren suspension.....straight axles just plain suck and if not loaded heavy the load bounces around like crazy particularly with suspension based loads like a Mule or dirt bike, etc. I had an expensive KTM dirt bike launch off a single axle trailer and that was when I set out to find a better solution.
When I was designing the build of the trailer I had to consider the weight of the trailer (empty) which would be around 1,400 lbs and then my load considerations with my Mule being the heaviest (2k lbs). I'm already at the threshold weight of most single axle trailers. (3,400 lbs).
The thought of trailering a Dexter or other straight axle trailer using a 5,200 lb set up was a no go for me.....again this is where Timbren was the clear solution.
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
[Re: Brother in-law]
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05/10/23 02:56 PM
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Don't have a picture of mine hooked up but I strap it like this on all 4 corners. And I use automotive straps instead of UTV ones. Bigger is better.
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
[Re: WattoHunt]
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05/10/23 09:45 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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Yet another reason I upgraded to a Timbren suspension.....straight axles just plain suck and if not loaded heavy the load bounces around like crazy particularly with suspension based loads like a Mule or dirt bike, etc. I had an expensive KTM dirt bike launch off a single axle trailer and that was when I set out to find a better solution.
When I was designing the build of the trailer I had to consider the weight of the trailer (empty) which would be around 1,400 lbs and then my load considerations with my Mule being the heaviest (2k lbs). I'm already at the threshold weight of most single axle trailers. (3,400 lbs).
The thought of trailering a Dexter or other straight axle trailer using a 5,200 lb set up was a no go for me.....again this is where Timbren was the clear solution.
I’ve priced them several times, just cant let go of the cash yet, but im getting closer
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
[Re: WattoHunt]
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05/10/23 09:46 PM
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BigPig
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Yet another reason I upgraded to a Timbren suspension.....straight axles just plain suck and if not loaded heavy the load bounces around like crazy particularly with suspension based loads like a Mule or dirt bike, etc. I had an expensive KTM dirt bike launch off a single axle trailer and that was when I set out to find a better solution.
When I was designing the build of the trailer I had to consider the weight of the trailer (empty) which would be around 1,400 lbs and then my load considerations with my Mule being the heaviest (2k lbs). I'm already at the threshold weight of most single axle trailers. (3,400 lbs).
The thought of trailering a Dexter or other straight axle trailer using a 5,200 lb set up was a no go for me.....again this is where Timbren was the clear solution.
We had Timbren #5200 tandem setup on our off road toy hauler. I can say without a doubt it was a terrible setup. It would tail walk like crazy, almost as if each wheel was wanting to go its own way. Eventually it started eating tires. We ended up with the trailer builder basically using the Timbren with a solid axle tube to connect each side to each other. That helped some, but we eventually sold the trailer out of frustration. It may be better on a single axle, I don’t know, but I’ll stick with the simplicity of a solid axle. Anything with suspension that’s riding on a vehicle or trailer with suspension is going to be a chore to secure as they will work against each other, typically causing the loaded vehicle to exaggerate its movements.
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
[Re: Brother in-law]
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05/10/23 10:16 PM
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I use the Fastrap system with the small metal tire chalk in front and back of the tire(s). You bounce out of those you either didn't have them tight enough or need to quit driving like a maniac It's without a doubt the best tiedown system I've used...the only downside is if you use your trailer for other things they are almost always in the way...but it's a minor pain if your trailers primary usage is a SxS. Nice trailer WtH!
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
[Re: Brother in-law]
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05/11/23 01:13 AM
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This trailer was a little overkill and I only towed it tied down like this for 7-8 miles.
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
[Re: Judd]
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05/11/23 02:54 AM
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I use the Fastrap system with the small metal tire chalk in front and back of the tire(s). You bounce out of those you either didn't have them tight enough or need to quit driving like a maniac It's without a doubt the best tiedown system I've used...the only downside is if you use your trailer for other things they are almost always in the way...but it's a minor pain if your trailers primary usage is a SxS. Nice trailer WtH! That’s why I went with the flat metal rails instead of the tire *chocks, never had good luck with tire chalk . But yeah, when a dumbass makes a quick lane change from the shoulder into a 75mph lane and everybody around you starts making evasive maneuvers, you’ve got to do what you can. I dropped the driver side tires into a grass ditch and which sent the trailer into a slide, when I got it back on the road it caught traction and did a damn good job of trying to throw that RZR off the trailer. I’ve always wanted a cad hauler setup, but times like that make me glad I have the side rails. That’s the only reason I still have the RZR. Pretty sure you can still see the crease in my seat form that
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
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05/11/23 12:44 PM
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Probably a good reason to reconsider towing faster than you should.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
[Re: Brother in-law]
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05/11/23 07:58 PM
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BigPig
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You’re right, probably shouldn’t tow faster than 40mph and stick to the side roads
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
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05/19/23 12:45 AM
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Dave Davidson
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I’ve had a 16 ft tandem axle trailer for about 20 years and the only thing I’ve messed with is the boards. I’ve put a Toyota 4 Runner on it and taken it 100 miles with no problems.
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
[Re: BigPig]
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05/19/23 11:56 AM
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Thanks guys....I've heard the bumper is pretty lousy for a tie-off point. So far I've been lucky not to have anything happen.
I'll start using the strap/wheel method or find another means to attach. Best way to tie down a SxS Are these just screwed or bolted into the wood flooring?
Wife has always wanted some Hard 8
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
[Re: reeder05]
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05/20/23 02:32 AM
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BigPig
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Thanks guys....I've heard the bumper is pretty lousy for a tie-off point. So far I've been lucky not to have anything happen.
I'll start using the strap/wheel method or find another means to attach. Best way to tie down a SxS Are these just screwed or bolted into the wood flooring? Instructions said to screw them down. I bolted through every crossmember and then 2 more bolts between each cross member. My boards were already bolted to each crossmember with 2 bolts each.
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
[Re: Brother in-law]
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06/23/23 03:25 PM
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So what did OP friend buy? My son just upgraded to a 16' PJ for his new Cann Am. I got a good deal on his 12' dovetail PJ.
Wattho, I like that idea of male welded jack body on each side.
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
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06/24/23 12:58 AM
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You gotta build it yourself if you want it industrial quality. The reverse lights are better than my brights
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
[Re: Brother in-law]
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06/24/23 12:32 PM
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No way I’m strapping $20-30k on a single axle trailer.
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
[Re: Ramball36]
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06/24/23 12:59 PM
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You gotta build it yourself if you want it industrial quality. The reverse lights are better than my brights 5200lb axle?
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
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06/24/23 02:18 PM
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3500 lb axle with 10 ply tires.
I’m curious what you think will happen to a buggy on a single axle trailer?
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
[Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks]
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06/24/23 03:37 PM
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No way I’m strapping $20-30k on a single axle trailer. I dont want single axle for anything. Partly just want the insurance if a blowout.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
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06/24/23 04:44 PM
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No way I’m strapping $20-30k on a single axle trailer. Good news for you, doesn’t appear it’s strapped down, so nothing to worry about
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
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06/24/23 05:46 PM
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Out here in gods country we use one strap sucking it to the front rail. Only Dallas folks use wheel chocks and tire straps
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
[Re: Ramball36]
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06/25/23 03:33 AM
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Out here in gods country we use one strap sucking it to the front rail. Only Dallas folks use wheel chocks and tire straps I don’t have a rear gate, onky Machines made for old men and women need ramps to load on a trailer
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
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06/25/23 08:00 PM
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You just gotta need your buggy up big enough to pull your truck out of the wet grass
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
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06/26/23 01:37 AM
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You gotta build it yourself if you want it industrial quality. The reverse lights are better than my brights Same ride he is needing for.
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Re: Medium HVY Duty Utility Trsiler
[Re: Ramball36]
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06/26/23 09:59 PM
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onlysmith&wesson
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3500 lb axle with 10 ply tires.
I’m curious what you think will happen to a buggy on a single axle trailer? I did 1000's of miles on a single axle, 6' x 12'. dove tail. Polaris Ranger XP1000, single seat. Just switched to a cargo trailer for lodging option. I had zero issues, Colorado and back twice, Panhandle trips, too many to count. With the right axle and tires, it works. Even with a blow out if you're strapped down properly it shouldn't be a problem.
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