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Durable camo? #8801568 02/14/23 04:39 PM
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What’s a good camo for bow hunting that can hold up to heavy brush, but is also quiet?

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I have seen a few videos, article reviews of Sitka having challenges holding up to tough brush.

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I am not impressed with Sitka at all for warmth or durability.

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Any opinions on Kuiu? I’ve been looking for a new vest.



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Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Any opinions on Kuiu? I’ve been looking for a new vest.


I have one and really like it. Excellent as a layer.

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I am not impressed with Sitka at all for warmth or durability.

There are products that are more snag resistant. But they are likely heavier and noisier. I've had a Jetstream for 3 years, all things considered I like it. I lay prone in it a lot. and haven't snagged it once. It is a lighter jacket, when I add a puffer I've worn it with temps in the 20's.


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Sitka gear is quite specialized for what it is made for. Their bow hunting apparel is good, and has good durability to normal wear and tear in a woods. The stratus line is great quiet windproof and water repellant to light precip, will stand up to snags and briars well but might collect a few a long the way due to the outer material being more "fleecey" for quiet. It is my go to outer layer for most treestand hunting in texas/Oklahoma save for really cold times. Their fanatic line is a heavier version with a heavier "fleece" outside, still quiet but will be more attractive to burrs and such. But it will hold up well to the normal wear and tear of a deer woods. there are pant and bib lines that go along with these tops that are equal from a function stand point.

Of course sitka has other lines that are more versatile, but do have some drawbacks from bow hunting perspective (since that is the OP question). Their puffy jackets will not be good from a quiet or durability standpoint, but what puffy is? They have quiet jackets that don't cut wind well (traverse) and windproof jackets that aren't as quiet (jetstream) and a slew other stuff that can be layered to create a system where you are more comfortable in the stand. But realize what it is you are getting into, and realize its limitations from a bow hunting perspective.

Kuiu has some good durable gear. quiet isn't quite their game, though they introduced the proximity line this year to compete in the bowhunting realm. It is good, some people love it, but i have heard reports of the wind barrier being non-existent and thus colder than it should be. I have no first hand experience with that line. I have quite a bit of other kuiu stuff, and it is all quality gear, similar to the sitka gear I have in longevity and durability. Each has its place in my hunting line up.

For straight up bow hunting, I always recommend the sitka stratus and bibs. they are very versatile temp wise, I have worn them in the 60's down to the teens and they are pretty dang quiet. They appear as new going on two to three seasons of good use in the trees. Those two pieces will almost always suffice for texas bowhunting, unless you are talking about far west or panhandle bowhunting. If that is what the OP is asking (doubt it due to the question about busting brush) then I can steer him in the right direction for those conditions.

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Durable to heavy brush and quiet don't generally go together. Especially since you mentioned bow hunting guessing you're thinking scent control ability too. Scent blocker wear is quiet and flexible but guessing that fabric is not real durable to heavy brush.

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Nothing will hold up well to thorns save for canvas or leather.

Softshell material from most major technical camo manufacturers will be about as good as you can get.

I like firstlight pants and Kuiu jackets. Also have a lot of Vuni gear that holds up well


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I do not have any first lite outer garments, only some of their undies, but the kuiu jackets and pants I have are not near quiet enough (for me) to bow hunt. There is enough noise to spook a deer easily, and on a calm day, for sure their noise would spook a deer. Maybe the only ones I would consider for bow hunting would be the strongfleece hoodies or the peloton 240 jacket, Those are pretty quiet, but they are both more mid layer than jacket.

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Originally Posted by Texas buckeye
I do not have any first lite outer garments, only some of their undies, but the kuiu jackets and pants I have are not near quiet enough (for me) to bow hunt. There is enough noise to spook a deer easily, and on a calm day, for sure their noise would spook a deer. Maybe the only ones I would consider for bow hunting would be the strongfleece hoodies or the peloton 240 jacket, Those are pretty quiet, but they are both more mid layer than jacket.



Trade offs in everything. Softshell isn’t as quiet as fleece but is more durable.

If you’re sitting in a stand or tree, fleece is the way to go.

I normally wear a fleece jacket and softshell pants. Best of both worlds.


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Riverswest waterproof fleece stretchable jacket and pants. By far the best I have used. http://proshop.riverswest.com/default.asp


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I do not have any first lite outer garments, only some of their undies, but the kuiu jackets and pants I have are not near quiet enough (for me) to bow hunt. There is enough noise to spook a deer easily, and on a calm day, for sure their noise would spook a deer. Maybe the only ones I would consider for bow hunting would be the strongfleece hoodies or the peloton 240 jacket, Those are pretty quiet, but they are both more mid layer than jacket.



Trade offs in everything. Softshell isn’t as quiet as fleece but is more durable.

If you’re sitting in a stand or tree, fleece is the way to go.

I normally wear a fleece jacket and softshell pants. Best of both worlds.


Agree, pants are not as important for noise control when siting in a tree, and early to mid season I will wear my kuiu attacks and axis pants and get away with it, but as season progresses the textile gets colder either on the chair or in the pants and things get squeakier, so I end up switching to the stratus pants/bibs, much more quiet.

But fleece or fleece hybrid (like the stratus) is great when its cool to cold and need quiet. Early season a single layer shirt is good enough. Thinking of trying to the sitka equinox guard hoody to help keep insect bites to a minimum this next early season. Once you need a jacket its a moot point, but those early season sits can be brutal for mosquitos.

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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
I am not impressed with Sitka at all for warmth or durability.


which system from sitka? Problem with Kuiu, Sitka, Firstlite, Stone glacier is they are very specific applications with few cross over pieces, so you have to be pretty educated on the different lines


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Personally, I'm a big fan of First Lite stuff, but I've also torn a few holes in my bibs. I stick with them because they're probably the most comfortable piece of clothing I own, sweatpants included. All of this being said, Carhartt has a hunting line. May not be as swanky/comfy as some other brands, but I bet it'll hold up.

It's tough to find clothing that'll hold up to Texas brush. Not sure if it exists. Duck Camp brush pants are pretty tough as well.

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I've had a Sitka Jetstream since 2010, worn it quite a bit down there chasing pigs in the brush.
Still looks fine and works great.
Not real warm but very wind blocking.

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I originally started using Duck Camp gear because I had access to a pro-deal. No longer have access to those discounts, but I still buy from them because it's quality stuff. Holds up well and is comfortable, warm, and functional. I almost exclusively bow hunt as well.

I also like that they are a Texas company and not as large as the Sitka's and First Lite's (nothing against those companies). I love their midland camo pattern. It works in almost any environment at any time of the season.

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Someone needs to tan a hog hide and make a jacket. Now that'd hold up...

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Not the quietest out there I imagine, but I took Firstlite Corrugate Foundry pants on an elk hunt in NM. It was extremely thick country at points, thorny as well. The pants held up extremely well -- I couldn't even find a tear in them even though I drew blood on my legs in several places. My buddy was wearing merino pants, much quieter, and many tears later. I was so impressed, I ended up buying another pair during their holiday sales even though I probably won't need them until next season.

Hope that helps. Good luck to ya.


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Originally Posted by bbarron80
What’s a good camo for bow hunting that can hold up to heavy brush, but is also quiet?


short answer is no if dealing with Heat, if just looking at cold weather just go fleece. With that said as far as 4way stretch breathable pants, there are Lots of good option from those companies

no point in Sitka, Firstlite, Kuiu, etc in TX IMO. You dont need a high degree of technical fabrics to hunt here. I own alot of Sitka, Firstlite and kuiu also. Better price point options for Texas


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Originally Posted by TXHunter0619
Not the quietest out there I imagine, but I took Firstlite Corrugate Foundry pants on an elk hunt in NM. It was extremely thick country at points, thorny as well. The pants held up extremely well -- I couldn't even find a tear in them even though I drew blood on my legs in several places. My buddy was wearing merino pants, much quieter, and many tears later. I was so impressed, I ended up buying another pair during their holiday sales even though I probably won't need them until next season.

Hope that helps. Good luck to ya.

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The Firstlite Corrugate Foundry pants are awesome & like Steventtu mentioned, they're pretty much the most comfortable pants I own period. I pair those with the Kuiu DCS Guide jacket and add/remove other layers as needed.

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