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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
[Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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02/08/23 03:58 AM
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@txtrophy85, you’re absolutely right. I have zero experience shooting a captive animal. last HF I hunted was 14k pasture of 21k acres HF …. that was 17 years ago. Was harder then any of my leases, same tactics though. Exception, not the rule. I ain’t hating it. I was asked, I answered. I’m not trying to convince anyone that my way is for them, but for some reason hf hunters are always in defense of how they go about killing their deer. is it the exception? Im never been on a HF ranch with higher deer densities then LF Mason, Llano or Gillispie counties. Which says alot because if I was hunting HF I was normally there to cull does for friends. I know one of them in Llano had 60% less deer then outside of the ranch. Maybe you need to break places in to sub classes, apparently they arent all the same. I’m not defending how some one kills a deer, no body has to defend why, how or what they pulled the trigger on nor do they need to classify them. big difference in killing “a” deer vs “the” deer. “A” deer is extremely easy the vast majority of time, “the” deer changes everything regardless off fence. Whitetails dont exactly migrate, but most people cant exactly or effectively hunt over 30 acres at a time, especially with thick cover.
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
[Re: DQ Kid]
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02/08/23 04:01 AM
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
[Re: DocHorton]
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02/08/23 04:02 AM
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txtrophy85
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Purpose of the high fence is the be able to implement better management, at least in Texas.
Are you saying management on LF isn't as generally effective? No, but it has more determining factors. Management practices have been implemented across the country and has shown to tremendously boost age structure, herd health and as a result, antler size on varying sizes of property. But, to implement those changes there would have to be new rules take effect that I doubt would fly with Joe hunter. Just look at how AR’s have caused such a ruckus.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
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02/08/23 06:59 AM
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Apparently hunting is a contest for a lot of folks on here. I’m sure glad it’s not that way for me.
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
[Re: DQ Kid]
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02/08/23 12:01 PM
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This full moon needs to pass soon.
Asking someone if the deer was high fence or low fence is like looking at a picture of somebody’s wife and asking how much she weighs.
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
[Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks]
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02/08/23 12:11 PM
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This full moon needs to pass soon.
Asking someone if the deer was high fence or low fence is like looking at a picture of somebody’s wife and asking how much she weighs.
Is it appropriate to try and score her rack ? Asking for a friend …
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
[Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks]
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02/08/23 12:21 PM
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onlysmith&wesson
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This full moon needs to pass soon.
Asking someone if the deer was high fence or low fence is like looking at a picture of somebody’s wife and asking how much she weighs.
or, "Are those real?"
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
[Re: DQ Kid]
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02/08/23 12:27 PM
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
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02/08/23 12:27 PM
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
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02/08/23 12:29 PM
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
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02/08/23 12:30 PM
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
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02/08/23 12:36 PM
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
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02/08/23 12:42 PM
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
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02/08/23 12:43 PM
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
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02/08/23 12:43 PM
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I like it....place to brag and gloat about your farm raised animal. Do it!
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
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02/08/23 12:44 PM
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
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02/08/23 12:48 PM
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
[Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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02/08/23 02:14 PM
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I hope this is not a defining moment for this forum. A moderator, 20 year member with over 10,000 posts is telling me that selecting a buck on a low fence is no different than on a high fence. I’d expect a moderator to have more respect for our hunting heritage than try and sell that con. So what is your experience with high fence properties? Have you ever been on one? Hunted on one? Or are all your opinions based on assumptions? Zero, no and no. My assumption is that the fence is effective, and the deer are captive behind it. Also, the business model that I see advertised confirms my belief. Trophy fees, pictures of the deer you can shoot and the prices……just doesn’t appeal to me. It’s ok for those that want that type of experience, but if you post a pic with a trophy deer, and fail to mention that your shot it captive behind a high fence, don’t get butt hurt when a hunter asks you if it was hf/lf. Just proudly answer. This is typical of the anti-high fence crowd. People who have never stepped foot on one, let alone hunted in one, are forming opinions based on nothing except feelings and preconceived notions with no actual real world experience and they want their opinions to somehow carry weight…
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
[Re: txtrophy85]
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02/08/23 02:31 PM
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onlysmith&wesson
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I hope this is not a defining moment for this forum. A moderator, 20 year member with over 10,000 posts is telling me that selecting a buck on a low fence is no different than on a high fence. I’d expect a moderator to have more respect for our hunting heritage than try and sell that con. So what is your experience with high fence properties? Have you ever been on one? Hunted on one? Or are all your opinions based on assumptions? Zero, no and no. My assumption is that the fence is effective, and the deer are captive behind it. Also, the business model that I see advertised confirms my belief. Trophy fees, pictures of the deer you can shoot and the prices……just doesn’t appeal to me. It’s ok for those that want that type of experience, but if you post a pic with a trophy deer, and fail to mention that your shot it captive behind a high fence, don’t get butt hurt when a hunter asks you if it was hf/lf. Just proudly answer. This is typical of the anti-high fence crowd. People who have never stepped foot on one, let alone hunted in one, are forming opinions based on nothing except feelings and preconceived notions with no actual real world experience and they want their opinions to somehow carry weight… To help me become informed on HF harvesting, tell me the name of the last commercial HF ranch that you killed a deer on. I'll read up on it.
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
[Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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02/08/23 02:42 PM
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I hope this is not a defining moment for this forum. A moderator, 20 year member with over 10,000 posts is telling me that selecting a buck on a low fence is no different than on a high fence. I’d expect a moderator to have more respect for our hunting heritage than try and sell that con. I have been hunting a long time and yes, in lots of respects it is NO different and I have a lot of respect for our hunting heritage. I took NO deer this year high fence or low fence because the ones that I was after didn’t show up. You must not have hunted a lot over the years. Or not hunted high fence very much. It is not shooting fish in a barrel.
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
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02/08/23 02:55 PM
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It is not shooting fish in a barrel. I never have hunted high fence. But this is what I have been told by many people. Especially if the ranch is several thousand acres. The same tactics that apply on any hunt, still apply inside a high fence.
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
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02/08/23 02:56 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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To help me become informed on HF harvesting, tell me the name of the last commercial HF ranch that you killed a deer on. I'll read up on it.
have you ever hunted any where commercially(IE -MLD lease or outfitted public or private) ?
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
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02/08/23 02:57 PM
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txtrophy85
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[/quote] To help me become informed on HF harvesting, tell me the name of the last commercial HF ranch that you killed a deer on. I'll read up on it. [/quote]
Well, we could do that, which I am happy to do and will tell you I had a great time.
Or, you could go hunt on one yourself and gain some real world experience.
I have hunted on commercial high fence places as well as private high fence ranches.
I’ve also killed Deer, Bear, antelope and elk on public land out west, so my opinions on how challenging/enjoyable they can be come from a very wide variety of hunting that I’ve done.
Please tell me, other than whitetail and pigs in Texas, what other types of hunting have you experienced?
Your logic is so flawed it’s hard to believe you are serious. That’s like telling someone you don’t like diesel trucks, but you’ve never been in one, never driven one, but one drove by you once and you thought it was loud.
It’s the epitome of ignorance.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
[Re: kwrhuntinglab]
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02/08/23 02:58 PM
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onlysmith&wesson
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I hope this is not a defining moment for this forum. A moderator, 20 year member with over 10,000 posts is telling me that selecting a buck on a low fence is no different than on a high fence. I’d expect a moderator to have more respect for our hunting heritage than try and sell that con. I have been hunting a long time and yes, in lots of respects it is NO different and I have a lot of respect for our hunting heritage. I took NO deer this year high fence or low fence because the ones that I was after didn’t show up. You must not have hunted a lot over the years. Or not hunted high fence very much. It is not shooting fish in a barrel. The deer are captive, and not free to allow their instincts to establish their range, major difference. It doesn't appeal to me. You asked me for a response earlier, so I answered. I've hunted 50 years. Before making an assumption about my hunting experience you should ask. Review my post history. I have never hunted a high fence, or visited one. txtrophy85 will be providing me with a relevant HF commercial operation for me to read up on. I never said it was shooting fish in a barrel, but that is a common point that HF hunters seem the need to defend, even when it isn't stated or implied by myself.
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: Has THF Ever Considered a
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02/08/23 03:00 PM
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So pray tell, what’s the difference between a commercial high fence ranch and a private high fence ranch? Cause now you are bringing up another category
What about a commercial low fence property? How does that play into the mix?
You are trying to argue a point on something you know nothing about. I might as well ask you what is your thoughts on the next lunar mission because your thoughts and opinions on that will be just as valid as your thoughts on high fences.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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