Why are your shooting a 250 spine?

I shoot .300 spine at 27’” 76# and 150 grains on the point, which is a stiff arse arrow.

Do you have an extra long draw?

I have a 30.6” draw. I shoot a bow maxed out at 30”. But I am willing to bet it is closer to 30.5”.

I shoot 250’s because I don’t like the little 12 grain inserts. Sometimes you Robin Hood an arrow and that’s all it takes to cram the insert back into the shaft of both arrows, and split them. Longer inserts are heavier and that requires more spine. My 250’s have 100 grain inserts.

By comparison, with a 50 grain insert in a 300 spine Gold Tip, I can bury the front end of that shaft with a broadhead in a tree and unscrew it and the arrow is fine, bounces off the insert leaving a small gap. I can pound that right back in and she’s good to go. I actually did that when my bow slid off the hood of the truck and I had to verify the sights. That was before the Dropaway… I have not hunted with a Dropaway yet.

With just a standard 12 grain insert and 100 grain point and 32 inch shaft I am already underspined at 300 unless I cut my shaft down. Cut it down to 29.5” shaft and I am good to go for a 50 grain insert and 125 grain point, according to the charts. Add a luminoc just for weight on the back of the shaft to increase dynamic spine, plus I like luminocs. The long insert should also increase dynamic spine but it really doesn’t seem to matter with my bow.

My 300’s actually would not quite tune with 100 grain points, without the luminocs. I hesitate to try and push it.

Another thing I learned is that sure, you can tune an arrow that is underspined. But that is all your bow will shoot.

Tune with a properly spined arrow and just about any arrow properly spined will fly perfect.

Plus my bow does not have yokes or anything like that. So I need a properly spined arrow or it won’t tune without turning down the weight.

I used the 300’s to tune this time around. they are ballpark of 480 grains with inserts, heads, and luminocs. And moving about 270 fps out of my bow. I can shoot 35 yards on one pin with this arrow and don’t even have to hold over at all. I could probably push it and zero 35, shoot 40 but that gives me no margin for error without holding over/under.

The heavier higher FOC 250’s tune way easier.

I’m not done with Dropaway rests forever though. I almost got a NAP nighthawk when I returned it, because it does not set up in the up position. But it’s Chinese, not unlike the Trophy Ridge rest. I have plenty of f Trophy Ridge stuff nothing wrong with it, but for something like a Dropaway rest with all the moving parts, I think you need to buy all the quality you can afford.

Next time around with the Dropaway, I am going to spend the $ for quality made in USA and get it installed by a pro.
Probably a Ripcord at Midwest Archery.

In the meantime I have a micro drive whisker biscuit and two large replacement inserts on the way.

Rip Cord is a good rest and is one you can lock back or let it drop when you let off. I prefer one I can lock in the up position for keeping the arrow in place while hunting (captive type rest). One less thing to worry about like an arrow dropping off while hunting.

30.5” draw, are you 6’10”? I’ve hunted with a QAD rest for over ten years and never once had a problem with it.

I’m 6’2”. I guess I have orangutan arms. 30” draw is plenty of draw though, I’d rather shoot a 30” bow that is maxed out and operating at peak efficiency than to get one of those long draw setups and set it at 30.5”. 30” is the shortest of the long draws, those long draw bows are made for giants.

What is your draw weight?

For a 30” draw and 480 grain arrow 270 fps is on the slower side for a modern bow at 70 lbs.

I would recommend setting up a pin for 20 and 30 that way in the heat of the moment you don’t subconsciously make a mistake

I’m shooting 280 fps and it’s not fast enough to shoot one pin to 30 yards, the impact at 20 is too high

Your definitely the shortest 30.5” draw I’ve ever heard of. What bow are you shooting?

PSE Brute NXT.

I’ve been measured more than once. There is at least one other 30” draw shorter than me. Heard of the name Fitzgerald?

Other than that, all I can tell you is I’ve had it up to my gills with internet pro’s telling me I’m not a 30” draw. I don’t care what my draw is, it is what it is.

Edit- people love their toys, any time you challenge the status quo they will gang up on you. “Been doing it this way for years, newb”. I’m burned all the way out on it.

I know two guys that are 6'2 with 30" draws. thats not uncommon. My business partner is 5'11 and he has a 28 1/2" draw. One of my buddies is 6'4 and his draw is only 29"



I don't doubt he has a 30" draw, and that length arrow would denote a stiffer spined arrow.

29 inch draw. Never grew to fit my arm length, 6'1" wingspan and 5"8" tall

Hey. That's me exactly.

Oh you guys are a bunch of damn liars. Everybody knows you have to be over 6’ to draw 29”. It’s just a known fact.

That last comment was tongue in cheek. This whole thread was supposed to be but it got serious when my Dropaway started to suck. I had high hopes!

I knew it was . Hopefully in the off season you can get it working right for you.

Sorry but when I read this statement I had to question your draw length. There’s a reason 95% of bows only go to 30”. One of the biggest setup mistakes I’ve seen is people setting them up longer than their actual draw. Good luck with that 30.6” draw.

Longest draw bow I have worked on is 33.5 inches. Guy was right at 7 feet tall.

Wingspan measurement finger tip to fingertip then divide by 2.5 will get you really close to needed draw length. Grip plays a big role as well

Good luck with that know-it-all attitude big guy. I have a 30.6” draw without reaching, and I can’t even straighten my right arm all the way out.



What does it matter to you anyway? It does not make you a better hunter.

Since deer season is long over I decided to give the Dropaway rest another go. This time I got a Trophy Taker Throwdown. It was only $80 at Bass pro and since it does not have a lockup feature, I assume that it will not give me as much grief, and probably be a little bit more forgiving.

Maybe it was the experience gained from several weekends of frustration. Maybe it’s because the trophy taker is just a better rest than the Trophy Ridge micro drive Dropaway. Maybe I just got lucky. But I got this sucker dialed in, walk back tuned with bare and fletched shafts, and confirmed with a broadhead within far less than a hour. I haven’t even had much practice lately, the bow is shooting so good!

What a great little product. You can’t beat this Throwdown rest for $80. What a awesome little arrow rest.

Those slick tricks really drive deep!

You will be much happier with that drop away compared to the whisker biscuit. Longer range accuracy will be much improved