Anyone got an 8" barrel 300 HAM'R pistol or SBR? Wondering which ammo/bullet would be "best" (accuracy/performance) for the short barrel? Will primarly be used for a truck gun for hogs and varmits under 200 yards with suppressor.

Here's what we've learned at the WC ammo company about component availability during the BIG panic and beyond.

Bullets that were "reasonably" available throughout the panic:
Hornady 110gr V-MAX, 125gr FMJ, 135gr FTX
Lehigh (all)
Sierra 135gr HP-V
Speer 125gr TNT, 130gr HHC, 150gr BTSP

Cases:
Both Sig and Starline took good care of us and we never ran out of cases

Powder:
A1680 was easiest to get, but we never completely ran out of CFEBLK

Primers:
We never had an issue due to our close ties with Vista

The following bullets are still unobtanium:

Hornady 110gr SP (we received a few in 2021), 150gr SST (we haven't seen any of these since early 2020, last promise was Oct 2022 but it will not come true)
Sierra 125gr SBT PH (we haven't seen any of these since late 2019, last promise was Q1 2023)
Speer 110gr SP (we received a few in 2021), 135gr Bonded (we received a few in 2021), 150gr Bonded (we haven't received any of these since early 2020)

Bill W

How goes recovery from surgery ?

You picked a good time to get it done with temps and lack of rain

Get well

New hip is 100%, but I've been fighting the damn China virus for the past two weeks, this crap really sucks !!! Tks for asking

Prayers up for a fast recovery Mr Wilson.

I have one that shoots great with several different loads. My choice is to stay with lighter bullets that help to keep the velocity up given the loss from the 8" barrel. I normally run 95 to 110gr bullets in it, but have run up to 135's with no issues and very good accuracy. I get about 2360fps out of a hornady 110gr soft point with the 8".

Thanks for the feedback, will be a while before it’s all assembled, the WC lowers just went out of stock so I placed a back order. Good news is most eForm 1 SBR permits seem to be running less that 20 days right now.
Just trying to get a jump on all the info I can before purchasing ammo and heading to the range.

Is the 2360fps with or without a suppressor?

without

I have been following this thread since I found it at 70 pages long. Recently jumped in and built a 16" upper.

2 am this morning I took this pig. 130 gr Hotcore at 45 yards. I hit him as he was starting to leave. Bullet entered his rear and traveled along his body but there was no exit wound.

The hit caused his back legs to start to buckle, ran about 50 yards, stopped and feel over dead. One small twitch and that was it.

Enough blood to see a good blood trail and track him using a thermal rifle scope. Bleeding at the entry wound and from his mouth, must have done a lot of internal damage.

Good shooting! Isn't that what is called a "Texas heart shot"?

Big Sam, I believe that is correct. Never heard that term until I moved to Texas.

Would there be a problem using a 300 Blackout muzzle brake on a 300 Ham'r? Thanks!

Just ordered my WC Ranger 300 Ham'r. Can't wait for it to get done.

No problem...both are 30 caliber and shooting the same bullets.

I had a VG6 gamma 300blk on my rifle before I converted to ASR Suppressor mounts, worked fantastic without too much concussion. But speaking from experience: If you anticipate running a suppressor at any point in the future I would start out with a suppressor mount brake or flash hider, just something to think about before throwing a bunch of cash at a brake or flash hider that will eventually be removed.

Thanks guys!

Linear compensator .30 cal. <$30

Best investment you can make until you get a can.

Archon brand?

I don't recall owning that brand but I've had a handful of different types $100+ on down, and frankly they all worked reasonably well keeping the obnoxious blast directed forward. Before cans became more mainstream and usable I used the .30 & .22 linear comps in multiple shoot house classes.

The last couple I got in .30 were just placeholder AR Stoner models from Midway.

I have shaken my head at all the HAM'R weirdo rigs for a couple years now. . . and now I'm a convert myself.

A while back I stopped openly carrying an AR in my buggy and replaced it with first a bolt gun, and then a ridiculously "cheap" bolt gun because of the abuse they are taking. I've noticed that since doing so I have been getting approached by far more by people outside of my immediate circle who ask question, talk gun or hogs etc.

For months I've had a commieX39 Ruger Ranch rifle mounted across the dash & I finally came up on a new Ruger Ranch in 350 Loser that was well under market price. I had seen WC had the Ranch Rifle kits on sale just the day before so I snapped both up. 30 minutes after getting the tools all gathered she was scoped up and on the zero range.

Fast forward 12 hours and I'm out dropping salt for some wild cows that hate leaving the river. It's thick and soon enough I bumped a sounder out of the reeds. I bailed out of the buggy as the 5 pigs headed to the thicket to hide and regroup. mistake.

Here's a 1st blood pic to nudge "SOMEONE" out of retirement and get him to start posting his HAM'R Hairband videos again. After all, this mag was stuffed with 125gr TNT so Im sure he sensed a disturbance in the Force.

I have a handful of rigs that I could sell and buy a good used tacoma with but good lord, taking off into the bush with this thing gave me the ol school vibes.

For those of us who also like bolt rifles, there aren't a lot of options for compact field rifles designed around micro-calibers such as 223, 300BO, 300HAM'R, 6.5 Grendel and other common cartridges that also fit is AR15's. Yes, any short action receiver will work, but it can be a bit cumbersome and heavy.. A Sako L461 is about perfect, but that is a pricey base for a build. As far as modern mini-actions that won't break the bank, there are a few options, including the CZ 527, Howa Mini 1500, Remington Model 7.

Unfortunately, this year the CZ 527 was discontinued in favor of the company's new universal short action, the CZ 600. That said, CZ527 can still be easily found on Gunbroker. The Howa Mini 1500 has a bad reputation for being plagued by poorly designed proprietary magazine setup coupled with poor location of the magazine release lever that results in accidental dropped magazines. I believe that Bill had an experience with the Howa Mini that made him immediately disregard the rifle and focus on the Ruger Ranch rifle.

The Howa Mini has a strong following amongst the 6.5 Grendel Group, who have been the driving force behind getting aftermarket components design/marketed. I own both CZ 527 and Howa Mini 1500. When I bought my Howa Mini (+4 years ago), I was unaware of the issues that plagued the rifle. After upgrading some components, my Howa Mini is now reliable and a pleasure to shoot in tight spaces. The Howa Mini 1500 is now a viable contender for a 300 HAM'R bolt gun. Jefferson Outdoors has been working on solutions for the magazine issue for several years, and most recently has designed a drop-in replacement bottom metal ($125) that eliminates the magazine reliability issue and the magazine release lever issue. Jefferson's replacement bottom metal utilizes the CZ 527 Magazines.
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The CZ magazines are offered in 5-rounds and 10-rounds. I own a dozen or more of these magazines and can attest to them being bulletproof. They are solid metal construction with a strong spring and follower (no nose-diving).

I'm guessing it could be the increase in ambient temperature between my midwest fall load development and the here an now situation temps of Texas. Either way I just had over 100fps velocity jump on my 110vmax loads out of this bolt gun conversion compared to my other velocities noted for my 16 gas guns.

5 shot average with 29.0gr of cfeblk pushes 2640fps average in the gas guns and it just clocked 2749fps out of the converted Ruger bolt gun.

Primers are a little flat. bolt lift is just noticeably increasing.

I also had a significant velocity increase on my peak velocity TNT loads but no signs of pressure increase at all are apparant on the brass or throughout cycling the bolt.

The vmax is a smoker and she groups phenomenal. Since no pigs have shown up on any camera for the last 3 days I may go purposely hunt the bedding areas and work on getting some ballistic tests done tomorrow

CFEBlack is definitely temp sensitive. I do my load testing in Summer (July-August) when it is Hot. If my load works (accurate and reasonable pressure) at +95F then I am safe all year long. I retest the load in dead of winter (40F) to check if accuracy is still good as velocity has decreased some with colder weather.

This morning I intended to go test some loads but I am being lazy. My rationale/excuse is that I am waiting for temp to get over 90F… call it 10:30am.

We are not interested in how you do your testing.
We not interested in when you do your testing.

We just want to see the results.