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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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05/23/22 12:52 AM
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David Maas
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It listed 300 BO on the package, hmmm I was going by what the like takes you to Well, after further reading on a couple different sites, it appears that these may work with the supersonic 300 BO but not with heavier bullets or Subsonic bullets. It's a shame, it would be a great way to readily identify specific rifle magazines or ammo. I use them for 5.56, haven't finished my 300 Ham'r upper yet.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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05/23/22 04:04 AM
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Just have to say I really love this thread. Where else can you have direct interaction with the owner and inventor of such a game changing caliber??? Have to also give credit to all the respectful posters as well.
And for me the timing was perfect. I had 3,000 rounds of Hornady 6.8 110BTHP I doubled my money on by selling in the shortage and used that cash to fund my FOUR Wilson HAM'R AR's(16" super lightweight, 11.3" with folder and (2) 8-inch). Also sold my 300 BO and ammo. 300 HAM'R basically made both of those calibers obsolete in my opinion.
Finally, I noticed the NRA in their monthly magazine has been regularly promoting 300 HAM'R. Not sure what metric they use to rate at the acceptance of a new caliber, but IMO, the 300 HAM'R has arrived!!!
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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05/23/22 04:15 AM
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I have switched to Lancer magazines exclusively in the .300 Ham'r because of their distinct look. I don't have to worry about mixing up 5.56 or .300 Blackout because I don't own either of those anymore. The latest video from Josh and Holly Outdoors shows why a .300 Ham'r is an excellent replacement for either of those other chamberings in the small frame AR. I think the family of "Ham'r Heads" is only going to grow.
God bless.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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05/23/22 04:36 AM
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with all the talk about bullets, barrels, magazines and such, i hope yall wont mind if i contribute a kill vid. someone just may want to watch it during breakfast.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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05/23/22 12:59 PM
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It just figures that this would be the Youtube tile that shows up after a DJones shootin clinic video. If this was an outlaw pig hunting gang I think your street name would have to be Maestro. I was going to complain about you holding all the pigs for yourself but frankly it's saving me a ton of money on ammo and a good bit of precious water for the cattle lately so you just keep doin what you're doin for the next couple weeks.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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05/23/22 02:16 PM
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Love the Hamrsaults DJ...keep'em coming, the wheat has gotten to tall for us to hunt but in the coming weeks they will be harvesting and it'll be time again.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: David Maas]
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05/24/22 06:10 PM
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It listed 300 BO on the package, hmmm Lancer makes a separate 300 blk mag specifically for subsonic rounds and back when I first bought mine they recommend that if you are not using subsonic blackout to continue using the 223/556/300 mags for the supersonic blackout. The Lancer mags I've been using for my HAM'R are the blackout mags for subsonic loads.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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05/24/22 06:47 PM
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...I read somewhere in this thread that Team Oink uses some piston guns? If so which kits are you guys using? Like I said I love my Adams, it has run flawless for me. I'm always ready to listen to others experiences though. i asked BW once why he didn't make the hamr in a piston version, and he said they had accuracy issues... or something like that. oink and gramps both converted theirs to piston and love them. they haven't complained about accuracy that i know of. i ordered the piston kit twice and shipping screwed me around both times so i gave up. when i shot a 6.8, it was piston and i really liked the cleanup, especially with the nickel boron bcg while running a can. i can't say that it won any accuracy awards, but my idea of accuracy probably isn't the same as BW's as far as mags, my only real requirement is that they don't jam. it's kinda cool to see how many rounds are in a clear mag, but i'm not going into battle if it's not stuffed full. i don't necessarily have to see them. the 300 blkout pmag, wilson mag and lancer mags all work fine unless i get greedy with the oal. i've learned that it's not necessary to stretch the bullet out at the risk of dragging in the mag. published oal is where i live now. my least favorite is the lancer because it seems to be made of some kind of plastic that makes a louder noise when my gun is strapped in front and it rubs on a coat button or zipper. the others are quieter or at least seem to be more muffled.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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05/24/22 07:41 PM
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Thanks for the info djones. I never had any accuracy issues with my Adams 556 piston upper, in fact it was very accurate. It was a 14.5" with pinned ASR brake for my Specwar 556K. My favorite loads would shoot 3/4 MOA. I won't be a total accuracy freak on this HAMR, but would like it to shoot around MOA or so. Should be doable with the lighter loads like the 125 TNT. I ordered 400 of them to try out, looks like they will fit my shooting style pretty good. Normally I use 85 Sierra HP's, 90 TNT's or 95 VMAX's in my Grendel and I like the way they perform. The simple answer is just keep it a gas gun and not worry about it I suppose. I am trying to keep this gun as light as I can. Piston is a little heavier anyways.
I posted a video from the other night up in the wild hog forum where I was shooting the 85 HP. Not a HAMR so I kept it out of this thread. But we killed 10-11 pigs out of a 25 pig sounder. I think you would approve of the shooting, lol.
I ordered some of the Lancer mags from Wilson off the sale the other day. I will try them out.
I ordered some factory Starline brass for a quick startup into loading. But I have tons of once fired LC brass that came out of match chambered pressure test barrels, so I also bought the little mini cutoff saw from Harbor Freight the other day. I guess I need to look back and find that post that gives the Etsy link for the little jig to go with it. I will always catch what brass I can to reuse but one of the big draws to me on the HAMR was to not worry about it if brass hit the ground, just roll on. I got that brass for about 4 cents apiece, so not too concerned about losing a few of them.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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05/25/22 02:05 AM
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Being the frugal person I am I like to save all my used brass to reload as many times as it will stand...so all my AR platform rifles sport a brass catcher. It doesn't interfere with normal operation and adds maybe half an ounce to the weight. The only time I lose brass now is when I forget to empty the catcher before laying the rifle down on it's side in my vehicle.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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05/25/22 06:30 AM
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Being the frugal person I am I like to save all my used brass to reload as many times as it will stand...so all my AR platform rifles sport a brass catcher. It doesn't interfere with normal operation and adds maybe half an ounce to the weight. The only time I lose brass now is when I forget to empty the catcher before laying the rifle down on it's side in my vehicle. I could not agree more on the brass catcher (when I remember to put it on). It is not in the way. As a reloader there is another big reason to use the brass catcher on a semi rifle. Brass that is thrown from the gun, rolled around on the ground some and finally swept up is amazingly dirty. It typically requires an extra brass cleaning step... that I don't want to do. It seems the greatest enemy to clean brass in the example is the sweeping it up on an outdoor concrete floor.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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05/26/22 05:03 AM
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I was perusing Midway for something the other day and saw that Hornady now offers a 300 HAM'R die set!? https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1011077269?pid=922075 https://grabagun.com/hornady-2-die-set-300-ham-r-308.html?avad=211021_f28c75831They're rather spendy.. But Grab a gun had them cheaper and while looking around there I caught them slipping on the price of Tactacam Spotter LR's for $154.99! I posted it on the reloading discord, I think a few of us got `em before they fixed the price So, it made trying the Hornady's well worth it. Having more options is never a bad thing. Some people prefer the features of certain manufactures dies.. Hornady needs to make this a Regularly produced SKU or whatever it takes to bring the price down, currently it's over double what you can get a LEE set for! Here is a comparison of Seating stems to Bullet tip/ogive contact. These are on Nosler 155 CC's, because my crazy [censored] is still loading them haha LEE RCBS Hornady Just thought it'd be worth sharing if someone was looking at getting a die set, or those possibly having issues with bullet seating/concentricity with the LEE dies. I'm not saying they will always cause an issue with every bullet style/shape, but since I switched to the RCBS my seated bullets are like .002" or less from my Sinclair's reading. YMMV But I'm guessing for longer slicker bullets the Hornady's will be even better. Also, it seems like enough people bugged the fella's over at Vortex Nation Podcast enough for them to do a "10min Cartridge Talk" on the 300 HAM'R! Thoughts and Prayers with Uvalde Stay Texas Strong and Keep HAM'Rin away!
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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05/26/22 09:41 AM
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Like DJ said, I converted my HAM'R to piston with a Superlative Arms Kit. I run it with the bypass wide open with a Taccom buffer and a Tubb spring. I'm guessing about 6,000 rounds with it and just one hickup and it was my fault. I've never cleaned the piston since I've owned it. The best part is how much cleaner the carrier and magazine is shooting suppressed. Halfway through a really busy night DJ is digging in the console for the oil can because his gas gun is starting to slow down. I would oil mine about every third hunt or close to 400 rounds. My 18 inch barrel has Wilson's intermediate gas length gas port so I had to modify the op-rod to fit. With a day scope it will shoot a ragged hole so if there is a miss it's not the rifles fault. I've never shot anything but 125 TNT's because of this. Maybe I got lucky but my 6.8 is set up the same way and it's just as accurate. I use D&H mags modified with a Sledge-O-Matic so I can load long.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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05/26/22 02:17 PM
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The post about the reloading dies reminded me of a question I forgot to ask the group. I'm using the RCBS dies and I assume the seating die also has a crimping function. I was wondering how everyone reloading the Ham'r with RCBS dies sets up their seating die for a proper crimp? So far I've reloaded mine without a crimp and haven't run into any issues but then I rarely eject and reload a loaded round.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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05/26/22 04:00 PM
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The post about the reloading dies reminded me of a question I forgot to ask the group. I'm using the RCBS dies and I assume the seating die also has a crimping function. I was wondering how everyone reloading the Ham'r with RCBS dies sets up their seating die for a proper crimp? So far I've reloaded mine without a crimp and haven't run into any issues but then I rarely eject and reload a loaded round. I use a Redding .300BLK taper crimp die
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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05/26/22 10:58 PM
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Can anyone tell me the barrel profile differences in the PROTECTOR and RANGER in the 16" length?
Does anyone else produce barrels in the chambering I should consider since Wilson seems to be out of stock most of the time when I look? I want good quality and I'm not bottom feeding on the price, I just want something the next few months, not the next few years.
TIA, Sid
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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05/27/22 10:20 AM
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Wilson comes in stock pretty frequently if you get on their notification list.
I would get a wilson barrel if I were you.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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05/27/22 04:21 PM
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well well well. looky what we got here...
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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05/27/22 11:54 PM
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Can anyone tell me the barrel profile differences in the PROTECTOR and RANGER in the 16" length?
Does anyone else produce barrels in the chambering I should consider since Wilson seems to be out of stock most of the time when I look? I want good quality and I'm not bottom feeding on the price, I just want something the next few months, not the next few years.
TIA, Sid About half the various barrel length options were in stock on Wilson’s site earlier this week. I ordered an 11.3” barrel yesterday and noticed the longer barrels were out of stock. They say back order ok. I bet if you backordered one you would get it sooner than you think.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: sidpost]
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05/28/22 01:32 PM
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Wilson Combat
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Can anyone tell me the barrel profile differences in the PROTECTOR and RANGER in the 16" length?
Does anyone else produce barrels in the chambering I should consider since Wilson seems to be out of stock most of the time when I look? I want good quality and I'm not bottom feeding on the price, I just want something the next few months, not the next few years.
TIA, Sid The Protector is .700" in front of the chamber and gas block and the Ranger is .650" We have several hundred HAM'R barrels in stock, but they are bogged down with the final glass bead prep dept. (same dept that preps for Armor-Tuff finish), a BO should ship within a week or two
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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05/29/22 12:05 AM
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Hey Bill
I hate to get off topic of the hamr but I do have a question for ya on your 6.8 ammo. Ive got a few hundred rounds of all 3 of the bullets in 6.8 that you sell. That is the barnes 95Gr, Barnes 110 Gr and BTHP 110 Gr.
Can you tell me your opinion on each bullet and which one you prefer for hogs.
Will the BTHP stand up to the Barnes in Terminal capabilities?
Thanks!!!
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: Bigfoot]
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05/29/22 01:06 PM
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Hey Bill
I hate to get off topic of the hamr but I do have a question for ya on your 6.8 ammo. Ive got a few hundred rounds of all 3 of the bullets in 6.8 that you sell. That is the barnes 95Gr, Barnes 110 Gr and BTHP 110 Gr.
Can you tell me your opinion on each bullet and which one you prefer for hogs.
Will the BTHP stand up to the Barnes in Terminal capabilities?
Thanks!!! The BTHP is just a range bullet, most of the hogs I've killed with the 6.8 has been with the Barnes 110gr TSX
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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05/29/22 11:39 PM
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
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05/30/22 12:00 AM
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sidpost
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The Protector is .700" in front of the chamber and gas block and the Ranger is .650"
We have several hundred HAM'R barrels in stock, but they are bogged down with the final glass bead prep dept. (same dept that preps for Armor-Tuff finish), a BO should ship within a week or two
Awesome! So the Ranger is more of a pencil profile and the Protector is apt to handle more like my current rifle (0.730 in front of the chamber, 0.750 gas block, and 0.715 to the muzzle) but, it will be a bit lighter since it is a 0.30 bore versus a 0.223. How does getting a complete upper look? Are they backlogged way out or just a little bit like barrels? Thanks! Sid
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