Yeah, the whole measurement based system doesn’t make sense. It should be ability based.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Most of us here are in peak physical condition and warriors. Do you remember the video a few days back where the crazy woman was wielding a knife in Walmart and the copper tazed her to play it safe? Your average OT participant would have double tapped her in the central processing unit and proceeded filling the cart with the grocery list like no big deal.

Dang, Stub, did you see the price of gas?!

Not the donut shops.

They should definitely have to pass physical fitness tests like X number of push ups, pull ups, and running a few miles in X time because performing their job requires physical abilities. Waist size as a criteria makes no sense. How many NFL players would be out because of that?

X2

Idiotic at best to make that the criteria

He shouldn’t be police because of his waist size, it should be because of probable steroid use, and roid rage potential.

The air force had ridiculous weight standards. At 6' 4" my max weight was 217.

The air force had ridiculous weight standards. At 6' 4" my max weight was 217.

If that’s steroids then he needs his money back. Dudes fit but not overly jacked. But I bet he appreciates the complement

Looks more like a core guy that also plays on the mat a bunch.

You would be way off base LOL, depending on the types of steroids used and what their stacked with steroids in general don’t “Jack” you up. Steroid cycles build muscle mass in bulk and you have to cut them with several cycles of something like a Winstrol and Trenbolone to get cut and the well defined muscle tone after the bulking cycles are finished. These types of guys aren’t concerned with being ripped and are after muscle size and strength so the after effect isn’t of concern to them.

That picture of Eddie doesn’t give his size justice, he’s a monster standing next to a normal sized man and without a doubt he’s injected a ton of steroids over the years. He will probably pay the price by means of a heart attack sometime in the next 10 years but he’s got that Worlds Strongest Man belt he can be buried with Brain Shaw’s another one that’s a monster and has taken a crap ton of juice.

Is there any standard for physical fitness? Push ups, pull ups, distance run, body carry, obstacle course? I would think this to be an important factor as well. I know plenty of "fat" cops that are in pretty good shape and can pass a PT test.

The Cooper test is typically for new hires and a less demanding PAT test every year after. There is a myriad of case law on the subject though. When I started, I did the Cooper to get into the academy, but there was no annual continuing testing after being hired. Now it's annual testing. I was exempt because it wasn't a condition of my employment when I was hired. I always took and passed the PAT though, because they would give us old guys a thousand bucks if we could pass it each year.

To me, going strictly off of waist size alone tells me that the brass is not as concerned with actually being fit as they are "looking fit"

If that’s steroids then he needs his money back. Dudes fit but not overly jacked. But I bet he appreciates the complement

Looks more like a core guy that also plays on the mat a bunch.

The Cooper test is typically for new hires and a less demanding PAT test every year after. There is a myriad of case law on the subject though. When I started, I did the Cooper to get into the academy, but there was no annual continuing testing after being hired. Now it's annual testing. I was exempt because it wasn't a condition of my employment when I was hired. I always took and passed the PAT though, because they would give us old guys a thousand bucks if we could pass it each year.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Most of us here are in peak physical condition and warriors. Do you remember the video a few days back where the crazy woman was wielding a knife in Walmart and the copper tazed her to play it safe? Your average OT participant would have double tapped her in the central processing unit and proceeded filling the cart with the grocery list like no big deal.