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Re: Trusting People Has Ended [Re: Ol Thumper] #8483982 12/22/21 08:42 PM
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Plain & simple, Ol' Thump got hisself punked. Someone did something to him that he couldn't imagine doing to someone else.

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Originally Posted by Hudbone
Plain & simple, Ol' Thump got hisself punked. Someone did something to him that he couldn't imagine doing to someone else.



Yelp, especially since he told them why. It stinks that it makes everyone look bad, and closed another hunting opportunity door

I’d be mad in his shoes also.


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Re: Trusting People Has Ended [Re: Ol Thumper] #8484017 12/22/21 09:27 PM
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I just don't get it. I've hunted a lot of different ranches alone in the blind with numerous deer that were off limits, and never shot one of them. When in doubt, don't shoot (I do understand honest mistakes happen). In this case though, this guy knew that buck was off limits and didn't care. Pretty messed up. Anyway....

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Man I have had the sorriest friends since way back bang

A really close childhood friend of our family had a couple of hundred acres just south of Blooming Grove that had about a 16 acre lake on it full of fish.
He told me I could fish it whenever I wanted to and could bring some friends as long as they do not litter or go out there without me.

Well I took a group of my buddies out there, explained the rules no littering or coming out there without me per the land owner.
We had a great time, caught a lot of fish, drank a lot of beer life was good until those azz wipes went out there without me and left a bunch of beer cans on the property.

One of the neighbors saw them leaving the place music blaring and called in, the eldest brother went out there got pissed rightfully so and that ended the fishing out there.


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Re: Trusting People Has Ended [Re: Ol Thumper] #8484302 12/23/21 02:11 AM
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I am with you Ol Thumper, people get stupid when it comes to shooting bucks. I have even seen the " I thought it was a doe" when a giant buck was on the ground.
A family friend was hunting at my brothers place a while back. He was given instructions and pictures of a seven pointer that he could shoot, or any doe.
He shot a monster 10 pointer... at 25 yards. He is a friend and still comes around, but has never been allowed to shoot at another animal of any kind.


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Re: Trusting People Has Ended [Re: Ol Thumper] #8484612 12/23/21 11:50 AM
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I have had 2 guests on my place in the 3 years I've been hunting it. 2 guests and 2 injured bucks. One was from my 69 year old dad shooting it in the butt running away from him and blowing out his crotch and telling me he missed a doe. I killed the buck a couple weeks later to figure it all out. If someone hunts with me, the only direction i give them is that it has to be legal and ethical. If they kill the state record while hunting on my lease I'd be jealous but happy for them. With that said, I'm not a big antler managing guy and happy to see a decent buck in the thick woods of East Texas, although there are many. I don't blame Ole Thump a bit though in his situation. That's why I hunt alone, but I'm a loner and the close friends I do have all have their own leases to hunt anyway.

Re: Trusting People Has Ended [Re: skinnerback] #8484758 12/23/21 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by skinnerback
I just don't get it. I've hunted a lot of different ranches alone in the blind with numerous deer that were off limits, and never shot one of them. When in doubt, don't shoot (I do understand honest mistakes happen). In this case though, this guy knew that buck was off limits and didn't care. Pretty messed up. Anyway....


It’s because you can be trusted to behave like a guest and respect the landowners wishes.


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Re: Trusting People Has Ended [Re: TurkeyHunter] #8484782 12/23/21 03:17 PM
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I just don't get it. I've hunted a lot of different ranches alone in the blind with numerous deer that were off limits, and never shot one of them. When in doubt, don't shoot (I do understand honest mistakes happen). In this case though, this guy knew that buck was off limits and didn't care. Pretty messed up. Anyway....


It’s because you can be trusted to behave like a guest and respect the landowners wishes.


It is pretty wild how some people just dont know how to be a guest anywhere really. Take what you are offered and no more. It really isnt that hard.

Re: Trusting People Has Ended [Re: Ol Thumper] #8484814 12/23/21 03:43 PM
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That’s why I don’t let guests on the place period.

Re: Trusting People Has Ended [Re: Ktexas14] #8484823 12/23/21 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ktexas14
It is pretty wild how some people just dont know how to be a guest anywhere really.


It's not going to get better. Extremely few parents are teaching their children a dam thing about it. A friend's little kid recently spoke to me (the hunt host) in a way that, if I were the little guy in that situation, my butt woulda been yanked out of that chair by my dad, taken outside, and made to ache for a week. Instead, his name was just called, not even that loud, oh, but in a stern tone. realmad

These parents are not doing their children any favors. I've seen it in my brother's own children. They do not find what you'd call a successful, or even happy life. But I digress.


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Been there and done that. Great experiance for the kid despite the circumstances. One day you may have chance to explain to him when he gets older about respecting other peoples property. I now print out my rules now and hand it to guest. My rules include a fine now. It has worked so far.

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I have a buddy that has a small lease to hunt and has great fishing. I help him do a lot and he carries me to hunt and mostly fishing. He doesn’t carry many and we do some hunting in texas and keep it to me and him. This topic reminds me of why. U know how u have a buddy then they have one and next thing u know it’s outta control so we keep everything to ourselves which works best. He has several fishing spots and I would never even think about making any my own. Some folks are that way about hunting and fishing period. When I deer hunt with him I mainly just watch cause ain’t shooting anything unless it’s bigger than what I have and let his girls shoot those deer. He earned those places not me so I follow his rules and all works fine. We drink more beer and have fun more than anything. Some folks want a picture on social media and will do almost anything to get it so we keep it close. Loose lips sink ships is what happens around here.

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Originally Posted by 603Country
Way back when I did hosting hunts, I ran across every kind of hunter, from great to awful. One guy I can never forget. We told all guests that it was 8 points or better, then put them in the box stands. Later that morning we picked them up, and one guy had shot a 4 point. I’d have fussed at him, but he was truly shaking with buck fever. I had never seen that degree of shaking before, particularly an hour after he had shot. It was his first deer, and he was way beyond counting antler points. He was my guest, and I knew him well, but I didn’t give him much of a fuss..



The first time I was ever in a blind with a gun and saw a deer, I got buck fever pretty bad and all I saw was a doe. I started shaking, heart was pumping, I got nervous, started sweating even though it was about 27 degrees. But I didn’t shoot it because I had been told not to shoot any does. Even though someone gets nervous and wants a deer, it does not justify violating clear rules.


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Re: Trusting People Has Ended [Re: scalebuster] #8487029 12/26/21 03:07 PM
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It’s just a deer. Not worth losing a friend over.



Be happy for your friend, not like he shot your prized steer

Re: Trusting People Has Ended [Re: kkfish] #8487057 12/26/21 03:56 PM
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I have a buddy that has a small lease to hunt and has great fishing. I help him do a lot and he carries me to hunt and mostly fishing. He doesn’t carry many and we do some hunting in texas and keep it to me and him. This topic reminds me of why. U know how u have a buddy then they have one and next thing u know it’s outta control so we keep everything to ourselves which works best. He has several fishing spots and I would never even think about making any my own. Some folks are that way about hunting and fishing period. When I deer hunt with him I mainly just watch cause ain’t shooting anything unless it’s bigger than what I have and let his girls shoot those deer. He earned those places not me so I follow his rules and all works fine. We drink more beer and have fun more than anything. Some folks want a picture on social media and will do almost anything to get it so we keep it close. Loose lips sink ships is what happens around here.


I have an "acquaintance" like this. He has never hunted, wants to hunt, but honestly just wants to shoot a buck to put on Instagram. He turned down the opportunity to shoot a doe two years ago and that told me all I needed to know. He's mid 30's and I suggested to look into some adult mentored hunting programs. He responded with "That's remedial s***."

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I'm afraid that this is just a sign of the times.. very little personal integrity left in the average Joe...







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I have a buddy that has a small lease to hunt and has great fishing. I help him do a lot and he carries me to hunt and mostly fishing. He doesn’t carry many and we do some hunting in texas and keep it to me and him. This topic reminds me of why. U know how u have a buddy then they have one and next thing u know it’s outta control so we keep everything to ourselves which works best. He has several fishing spots and I would never even think about making any my own. Some folks are that way about hunting and fishing period. When I deer hunt with him I mainly just watch cause ain’t shooting anything unless it’s bigger than what I have and let his girls shoot those deer. He earned those places not me so I follow his rules and all works fine. We drink more beer and have fun more than anything. Some folks want a picture on social media and will do almost anything to get it so we keep it close. Loose lips sink ships is what happens around here.


I have an "acquaintance" like this. He has never hunted, wants to hunt, but honestly just wants to shoot a buck to put on Instagram. He turned down the opportunity to shoot a doe two years ago and that told me all I needed to know. He's mid 30's and I suggested to look into some adult mentored hunting programs. He responded with "That's remedial s***."



I dont get it, i went to an acquaintances property, I was just happy for the opportunity and super excited to get a doe last year. People dont understand how to appreciate the opportunities anymore .

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