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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders [Re: The Dude Abides] #8415058 10/12/21 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TXGUNNER308
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It’s bs


I don't know about that. They had emails...racist and anti-gay language.


This.


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Originally Posted by bill oxner
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Originally Posted by cbump
It’s bs


I don't know about that. They had emails...racist and anti-gay language.


This.


I haven't seen anything deserving of termination.....

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Ya'll need better news sites. There were other emails where he dropped words like 'f_qq_t' and blasted Goodell, Biden, Obama and several other people and went off about 'having to draft qu33rs'. These are work-place emails, not private emails. Even 10 years ago you had to be smarter than this.


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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders [Re: S.A. hunter] #8415106 10/12/21 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by TXGUNNER308
Originally Posted by cbump
It’s bs


I don't know about that. They had emails...racist and anti-gay language.


This.


I haven't seen anything deserving of termination.....


When you go back and are looking at 10 plus years of email, you don't care about context. They can manifest context, and outrage. With at said you can't call people Q on work email

Lesson: Text, emails, PM’s, even locker room type private conversations are fair game.


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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks] #8415110 10/12/21 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by QuitShootinYoungBucks
Ya'll need better news sites. There were other emails where he dropped words like 'f_qq_t' and blasted Goodell, Biden, Obama and several other people and went off about 'having to draft qu33rs'. These are work-place emails, not private emails. Even 10 years ago you had to be smarter than this.


This guy is right.

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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks] #8415112 10/12/21 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by QuitShootinYoungBucks
Ya'll need better news sites. There were other emails where he dropped words like 'f_qq_t' and blasted Goodell, Biden, Obama and several other people and went off about 'having to draft qu33rs'. These are work-place emails, not private emails. Even 10 years ago you had to be smarter than this.


Wow, maybe I was just brought up any rough environment..... I have seen nothing worth firing someone for

Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders [Re: The Dude Abides] #8415118 10/12/21 01:39 PM
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He's getting paid so he didn't care that he resigned. Coaches contracts are much different than players.


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Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
Originally Posted by QuitShootinYoungBucks
Ya'll need better news sites. There were other emails where he dropped words like 'f_qq_t' and blasted Goodell, Biden, Obama and several other people and went off about 'having to draft qu33rs'. These are work-place emails, not private emails. Even 10 years ago you had to be smarter than this.


Wow, maybe I was just brought up any rough environment..... I have seen nothing worth firing someone for


South siders rule! Somes want the inmates to run the asylum.

Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders [Re: The Dude Abides] #8415131 10/12/21 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TXGUNNER308
He's getting paid so he didn't care that he resigned. Coaches contracts are much different than players.


I would imagine there is a morals clause in there, but you or me aren't his attorney so we don't know the financial impact yet.


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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders [Re: Herbie Hancock] #8415138 10/12/21 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Herbie Hancock
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He's getting paid so he didn't care that he resigned. Coaches contracts are much different than players.


I would imagine there is a morals clause in there, but you or me aren't his attorney so we don't know the financial impact yet.



I'm sure it's got time frame specifics


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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders [Re: Hudbone] #8415163 10/12/21 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Hudbone
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Originally Posted by QuitShootinYoungBucks
Ya'll need better news sites. There were other emails where he dropped words like 'f_qq_t' and blasted Goodell, Biden, Obama and several other people and went off about 'having to draft qu33rs'. These are work-place emails, not private emails. Even 10 years ago you had to be smarter than this.


Wow, maybe I was just brought up any rough environment..... I have seen nothing worth firing someone for


South siders rule! Somes want the inmates to run the asylum.


This country is quickly growing into a bunch of sissies..... not the word I want to use, but you get the point.

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Racist, Sexist, Homophobic

They need to keep digging I'm sure he said something negative regarding Islam or Asians somewhere in the last 10 years.

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I think the email where he called Roger Godell a p#ssy and a fagg#tt sealed the deal. How many on here could say the same about the CEO of your company and survive? He was also sending topless pic's of Redskin cheerleaders through the company email. Either of those things would get me canned in a hot minute.



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Finally something worth firing someone over. I'll agree with topless pictures on company email is a fireable offense. If that really happened I haven't heard anything about it.

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The only thing I had heard when I posted was the Michelin comment. Didn’t know about all the other stuff.

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Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
Finally something worth firing someone over. I'll agree with topless pictures on company email is a fireable offense. If that really happened I haven't heard anything about it.


Yep.. Emails to Bruce Allen, President of the Redskins who got canned, were the most damming.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/11/sports/football/what-did-jon-gruden-say.html


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I think the email where he called Roger Godell a p#ssy and a fagg#tt sealed the deal. How many on here could say the same about the CEO of your company and survive? He was also sending topless pic's of Redskin cheerleaders through the company email. Either of those things would get me canned in a hot minute.




Depends on how much you make the company, probably a written warning in there somewhere. Topless cheer leaders will end up on cover of National Geographic some day


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Finally something worth firing someone over. I'll agree with topless pictures on company email is a fireable offense. If that really happened I haven't heard anything about it.


Yep.. Emails to Bruce Allen, President of the Redskins who got canned, were the most damming.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/11/sports/football/what-did-jon-gruden-say.html


Those where from his private email account. Unfortunately Allens was work.

I do find it interesting in Goodwin pressuring hiring and ultimately causing discrimination instead of hiring based off performance


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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders [Re: BOBO the Clown] #8415231 10/12/21 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
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Finally something worth firing someone over. I'll agree with topless pictures on company email is a fireable offense. If that really happened I haven't heard anything about it.


Yep.. Emails to Bruce Allen, President of the Redskins who got canned, were the most damming.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/11/sports/football/what-did-jon-gruden-say.html


Those where from his private email account. Unfortunately Allens was work.

I do find it interesting in Goodwin pressuring hiring and ultimately causing discrimination instead of hiring based off performance


So Chucky didn't send any pictures on company email? If that's the case we're back to square one.

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He both apologized and resigned.
So even Gruden disagrees with many of you.

These threads are very enlightening.


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I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.


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Originally Posted by Nogalus Prairie
He both apologized and resigned.
So even Gruden disagrees with many of you.

These threads are very enlightening.

Lol, do you think he meant it? I'm still waiting for the big bombshell comment he made that got him fired....

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If we don’t back Gruden, they will have all the power.

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He both apologized and resigned.
So even Gruden disagrees with many of you.

These threads are very enlightening.

Lol, do you think he meant it? I'm still waiting for the big bombshell comment he made that got him fired....


He. Wasn’t. Fired.


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Originally Posted by Nogalus Prairie
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He both apologized and resigned.
So even Gruden disagrees with many of you.

These threads are very enlightening.

Lol, do you think he meant it? I'm still waiting for the big bombshell comment he made that got him fired....


He. Wasn’t. Fired.

Come on are we going to play word games here. Forced out.... that better for you?

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Originally Posted by Nogalus Prairie
He both apologized and resigned.
So even Gruden disagrees with many of you.

These threads are very enlightening.


That's not disagreeing, that just deciding it was not worth fighting it, it's taking your undisclosed pay out and leaving. He has no EEOC protections, just those granted by his contract. Unemployment payments are also probably not a concern...

Most emails are from before he even look this current position. If Media wants you today, they will get you. You included. You may think you are above reproach but again connotation means nothing. You can clip things to make them do your bidding. He made bad decisions in his emails over a decade ago. It cost him. Pretty simple everyone can all agree to disagree with what we think his past actions in emails warrant his need to resign. My thoughts on fire-able personal or work email language has a changed a bunch over the last 10 years. I'm sure everyone has.




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