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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 12:46 PM
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I don't know about that. They had emails...racist and anti-gay language. This.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 12:56 PM
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I don't know about that. They had emails...racist and anti-gay language. This. I haven't seen anything deserving of termination.....
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 01:31 PM
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Ya'll need better news sites. There were other emails where he dropped words like 'f_qq_t' and blasted Goodell, Biden, Obama and several other people and went off about 'having to draft qu33rs'. These are work-place emails, not private emails. Even 10 years ago you had to be smarter than this.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 01:31 PM
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I don't know about that. They had emails...racist and anti-gay language. This. I haven't seen anything deserving of termination..... When you go back and are looking at 10 plus years of email, you don't care about context. They can manifest context, and outrage. With at said you can't call people Q on work email Lesson: Text, emails, PM’s, even locker room type private conversations are fair game.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 01:36 PM
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Ya'll need better news sites. There were other emails where he dropped words like 'f_qq_t' and blasted Goodell, Biden, Obama and several other people and went off about 'having to draft qu33rs'. These are work-place emails, not private emails. Even 10 years ago you had to be smarter than this. This guy is right. Charlie
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 01:36 PM
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Ya'll need better news sites. There were other emails where he dropped words like 'f_qq_t' and blasted Goodell, Biden, Obama and several other people and went off about 'having to draft qu33rs'. These are work-place emails, not private emails. Even 10 years ago you had to be smarter than this. Wow, maybe I was just brought up any rough environment..... I have seen nothing worth firing someone for
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 01:39 PM
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He's getting paid so he didn't care that he resigned. Coaches contracts are much different than players.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 01:45 PM
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Ya'll need better news sites. There were other emails where he dropped words like 'f_qq_t' and blasted Goodell, Biden, Obama and several other people and went off about 'having to draft qu33rs'. These are work-place emails, not private emails. Even 10 years ago you had to be smarter than this. Wow, maybe I was just brought up any rough environment..... I have seen nothing worth firing someone for South siders rule! Somes want the inmates to run the asylum.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 01:48 PM
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He's getting paid so he didn't care that he resigned. Coaches contracts are much different than players. I would imagine there is a morals clause in there, but you or me aren't his attorney so we don't know the financial impact yet.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 02:01 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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He's getting paid so he didn't care that he resigned. Coaches contracts are much different than players. I would imagine there is a morals clause in there, but you or me aren't his attorney so we don't know the financial impact yet. I'm sure it's got time frame specifics
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 02:15 PM
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Ya'll need better news sites. There were other emails where he dropped words like 'f_qq_t' and blasted Goodell, Biden, Obama and several other people and went off about 'having to draft qu33rs'. These are work-place emails, not private emails. Even 10 years ago you had to be smarter than this. Wow, maybe I was just brought up any rough environment..... I have seen nothing worth firing someone for South siders rule! Somes want the inmates to run the asylum. This country is quickly growing into a bunch of sissies..... not the word I want to use, but you get the point.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 02:22 PM
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Racist, Sexist, Homophobic
They need to keep digging I'm sure he said something negative regarding Islam or Asians somewhere in the last 10 years.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 02:27 PM
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I think the email where he called Roger Godell a p#ssy and a fagg#tt sealed the deal. How many on here could say the same about the CEO of your company and survive? He was also sending topless pic's of Redskin cheerleaders through the company email. Either of those things would get me canned in a hot minute.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 02:30 PM
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Finally something worth firing someone over. I'll agree with topless pictures on company email is a fireable offense. If that really happened I haven't heard anything about it.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 02:44 PM
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The only thing I had heard when I posted was the Michelin comment. Didn’t know about all the other stuff.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 02:45 PM
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Finally something worth firing someone over. I'll agree with topless pictures on company email is a fireable offense. If that really happened I haven't heard anything about it. Yep.. Emails to Bruce Allen, President of the Redskins who got canned, were the most damming. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/11/sports/football/what-did-jon-gruden-say.html
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 02:46 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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I think the email where he called Roger Godell a p#ssy and a fagg#tt sealed the deal. How many on here could say the same about the CEO of your company and survive? He was also sending topless pic's of Redskin cheerleaders through the company email. Either of those things would get me canned in a hot minute.
Depends on how much you make the company, probably a written warning in there somewhere. Topless cheer leaders will end up on cover of National Geographic some day
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 02:55 PM
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Those where from his private email account. Unfortunately Allens was work. I do find it interesting in Goodwin pressuring hiring and ultimately causing discrimination instead of hiring based off performance
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 03:10 PM
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Those where from his private email account. Unfortunately Allens was work. I do find it interesting in Goodwin pressuring hiring and ultimately causing discrimination instead of hiring based off performance So Chucky didn't send any pictures on company email? If that's the case we're back to square one.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 03:22 PM
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He both apologized and resigned. So even Gruden disagrees with many of you.
These threads are very enlightening.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 03:24 PM
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He both apologized and resigned. So even Gruden disagrees with many of you.
These threads are very enlightening. Lol, do you think he meant it? I'm still waiting for the big bombshell comment he made that got him fired....
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 03:27 PM
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If we don’t back Gruden, they will have all the power.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 03:33 PM
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He both apologized and resigned. So even Gruden disagrees with many of you.
These threads are very enlightening. Lol, do you think he meant it? I'm still waiting for the big bombshell comment he made that got him fired.... He. Wasn’t. Fired.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 03:36 PM
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He both apologized and resigned. So even Gruden disagrees with many of you.
These threads are very enlightening. Lol, do you think he meant it? I'm still waiting for the big bombshell comment he made that got him fired.... He. Wasn’t. Fired. Come on are we going to play word games here. Forced out.... that better for you?
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 03:40 PM
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He both apologized and resigned. So even Gruden disagrees with many of you.
These threads are very enlightening. That's not disagreeing, that just deciding it was not worth fighting it, it's taking your undisclosed pay out and leaving. He has no EEOC protections, just those granted by his contract. Unemployment payments are also probably not a concern... Most emails are from before he even look this current position. If Media wants you today, they will get you. You included. You may think you are above reproach but again connotation means nothing. You can clip things to make them do your bidding. He made bad decisions in his emails over a decade ago. It cost him. Pretty simple everyone can all agree to disagree with what we think his past actions in emails warrant his need to resign. My thoughts on fire-able personal or work email language has a changed a bunch over the last 10 years. I'm sure everyone has.
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