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Re: Allen West wife arrested. [Re: BigPig] #8366099 08/27/21 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPig


Wasn’t it found later that the guy he did this too was actually the wrong person?


That is correct. It was an Iraqi Police officer who knew nothing. He gave some random names to get them to stop the beating. Oddly when the Iraqi Police officer was interviewed by the press, he told them he did not blame West for what he did because West was just going by false intelligence that had been provided to him and West only did what he did to protect his men.

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Which ever story you believe, the roadside bombs miraculously stopped for the rest of the time West was there. Believe the media or draw your own conclusions….

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Originally Posted by Sniper John
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Wasn’t it found later that the guy he did this too was actually the wrong person?


That is correct. It was an Iraqi Police officer who knew nothing. He gave some random names to get them to stop the beating. Oddly when the Iraqi Police officer was interviewed by the press, he told them he did not blame West for what he did because West was just going by false intelligence that had been provided to him and West only did what he did to protect his men.

Well there ya go, sounds like a military expert to me…
Interrogation of the wrong perpetrator.


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Dang. I don’t like how he handled this situation, but I sure ain’t in no position to criticize how he handled terrorist suspects in war.

I’m highly opinionated and as critical as anyone, but I just can’t go that far without having been in his shoes. If you have been in his shoes, then I ain’t criticizing you, either.

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Originally Posted by Sneaky
Dang. I don’t like how he handled this situation, but I sure ain’t in no position to criticize how he handled terrorist suspects in war.

I’m highly opinionated and as critical as anyone, but I just can’t go that far without having been in his shoes. If you have been in his shoes, then I ain’t criticizing you, either.


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Tough for civilized people to win wars.

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Originally Posted by SnakeWrangler
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Dang. I don’t like how he handled this situation, but I sure ain’t in no position to criticize how he handled terrorist suspects in war.

I’m highly opinionated and as critical as anyone, but I just can’t go that far without having been in his shoes. If you have been in his shoes, then I ain’t criticizing you, either.


I'm in this camp...^^^^


Prezactly my stance as well.


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Originally Posted by SnakeWrangler
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Dang. I don’t like how he handled this situation, but I sure ain’t in no position to criticize how he handled terrorist suspects in war.

I’m highly opinionated and as critical as anyone, but I just can’t go that far without having been in his shoes. If you have been in his shoes, then I ain’t criticizing you, either.


I'm in this camp...^^^^



Me too. He's a POS for the way he's handled the DWI, but I'll not judge him for his actions with a suspected terrorist.


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What he did to that Iraqi police officer was a war crime
clearly illegal due to the UN Anti Torture Convention signed by Reagan in 1988. If the army could not tolerate what West did at the time when much abuse was mindlessly used for no good reason, he must have really been far out in his violence.


Several pages of the Article 15 trial. Several other of his party were also busted down for beating or intimidating prisoner. It was found that the prisoner had no creditable information.

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https://www.politifact.com/factchec...n-beck-says-allen-west-modern-day-ronin/

In early August, soldiers received a tip that West and one of his subordinate battery commanders were to be the subject of an assassination attempt. The same informant returned with the names of three people involved in the planning of the assassination, including an Iraqi policeman, Yehiya Kadoori Hamoodi.

Hamoodi was apprehended and brought in for questioning.

What happened next comes from accounts provided by West and the other soldiers involved in the interrogation through sworn statements they gave during a subsequent military investigation.

West joined the interrogation in progress after soldiers were unable to get useful information from Hamoodi. West said soldiers told him Hamoodi was being evasive and belligerent.

That's when the interrogation got more physical. Soldiers punched and shoved Hamoodi when he wouldn't answer interrogators' questions. At some point, West sat down across from Hamoodi, took out his 9mm pistol and placed it on his thigh pointing in Hamoodi's direction.

"I'm here for a reason," West said, according to a solider. "You are going to tell me who wants to kill me, or I am going to kill you."

Then they took Hamoodi outside and placed his head over a clearing barrel -- a barrel filled with sand where people can unload firearms safely. West showed Hamoodi the gun and told him he had five seconds to talk. "I brought his head down toward the barrel using my left hand to shield him away from any sand or blast," West told investigators.

Then West fired into the sand, at least once, maybe three times, inches from Hamoodi's head.

Then West fired into the sky.

Some soldiers thought West had shot Hamoodi. But Hamoodi was alive, and though stiff from shock, was ready to talk.

West headed back to the operations center, and let the interrogation conclude.

The fallout from the incident

During a subsequent military hearing, Hamoodi said he was not sure what he told the interrogators, but that the information was meaningless and induced by fear and pain, the New York Times reported.

The Times reported that at least one man named was taken into custody and his home was searched. No plans for attacks on Americans or weapons were found. West testified at his hearing that he did not know whether ''any corroboration'' of a plot was ever found. ''At the time, I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received," West said. "It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi.'' Yet he also notes that no attacks occurred after the interrogation.

Hamoodi was detained another 45 days after the incident, then released without being charged.

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After all this, I wouldn't vote for this guy to being a dog catcher.

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After all this, I wouldn't vote for this guy to being a dog catcher.

Agreed I’ve gotten a few spidey senses from him previously talking about 2A. He really didn’t know wtf he was talking about. Thank God this happened for Texas Gov position and not him running for Pres. before I probably would have voted for him for prez. Especially against Biden. Hell id still vote for him again Biden.


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Originally Posted by Sniper John
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...n-beck-says-allen-west-modern-day-ronin/

In early August, soldiers received a tip that West and one of his subordinate battery commanders were to be the subject of an assassination attempt. The same informant returned with the names of three people involved in the planning of the assassination, including an Iraqi policeman, Yehiya Kadoori Hamoodi.

Hamoodi was apprehended and brought in for questioning.

What happened next comes from accounts provided by West and the other soldiers involved in the interrogation through sworn statements they gave during a subsequent military investigation.

West joined the interrogation in progress after soldiers were unable to get useful information from Hamoodi. West said soldiers told him Hamoodi was being evasive and belligerent.

That's when the interrogation got more physical. Soldiers punched and shoved Hamoodi when he wouldn't answer interrogators' questions. At some point, West sat down across from Hamoodi, took out his 9mm pistol and placed it on his thigh pointing in Hamoodi's direction.

"I'm here for a reason," West said, according to a solider. "You are going to tell me who wants to kill me, or I am going to kill you."

Then they took Hamoodi outside and placed his head over a clearing barrel -- a barrel filled with sand where people can unload firearms safely. West showed Hamoodi the gun and told him he had five seconds to talk. "I brought his head down toward the barrel using my left hand to shield him away from any sand or blast," West told investigators.

Then West fired into the sand, at least once, maybe three times, inches from Hamoodi's head.

Then West fired into the sky.

Some soldiers thought West had shot Hamoodi. But Hamoodi was alive, and though stiff from shock, was ready to talk.

West headed back to the operations center, and let the interrogation conclude.

The fallout from the incident

During a subsequent military hearing, Hamoodi said he was not sure what he told the interrogators, but that the information was meaningless and induced by fear and pain, the New York Times reported.

The Times reported that at least one man named was taken into custody and his home was searched. No plans for attacks on Americans or weapons were found. West testified at his hearing that he did not know whether ''any corroboration'' of a plot was ever found. ''At the time, I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received," West said. "It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi.'' Yet he also notes that no attacks occurred after the interrogation.

Hamoodi was detained another 45 days after the incident, then released without being charged.


You do realize politifact is a left wing rag?


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A modern day, high tech lynching. That will teach someone like West not to get too uppity.

You haters are complete idiots.

Go back & vote for the Abbott asshoe that locked the state down, y’all are complete cucks.

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A modern day, high tech lynching. That will teach someone like West not to get too uppity.

You haters are complete idiots.

Go back & vote for the Abbott asshoe that locked the state down, y’all are complete cucks.


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West is an egotistical maniac, that doesn’t give a damn about me or you or the Great State of Texas !
He wants to be the Governor just to stroke his ego and will say or do anything in order to accomplish this.
You know that musty, nasty smell when you’re walking the tank bank when you realize that there’s a Cottonmouth close? Well I smell that smell when I see that guy speak.
I’m SO glad that his true colors came out now instead of electing him as Governor and finding out after it’s too late !
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West is an egotistical maniac, that doesn’t give a damn about me or you or the Great State of Texas !
He wants to be the Governor just to stroke his ego and will say or do anything in order to accomplish this.
You know that musty, nasty smell when you’re walking the tank bank when you realize that there’s a Cottonmouth close? Well I smell that smell when I see that guy speak.
I’m SO glad that his true colors came out now instead of electing him as Governor and finding out after it’s too late !
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Do you know West personally?

Who you gonna vote for, the career corrupt politician who shut down our entire state last year?

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Test was negative. All charges dropped.

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Test was negative. All charges dropped.


She needs a medical driver license revocation then.

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Well, there you go.

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Originally Posted by ChrisB
Test was negative. All charges dropped.



Maybe it is time for some driving lessons. She was all over the place.

It is also time for the arresting officer to get some recurrent training.

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Originally Posted by Sniper John
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...n-beck-says-allen-west-modern-day-ronin/

In early August, soldiers received a tip that West and one of his subordinate battery commanders were to be the subject of an assassination attempt. The same informant returned with the names of three people involved in the planning of the assassination, including an Iraqi policeman, Yehiya Kadoori Hamoodi.

Hamoodi was apprehended and brought in for questioning.

What happened next comes from accounts provided by West and the other soldiers involved in the interrogation through sworn statements they gave during a subsequent military investigation.

West joined the interrogation in progress after soldiers were unable to get useful information from Hamoodi. West said soldiers told him Hamoodi was being evasive and belligerent.

That's when the interrogation got more physical. Soldiers punched and shoved Hamoodi when he wouldn't answer interrogators' questions. At some point, West sat down across from Hamoodi, took out his 9mm pistol and placed it on his thigh pointing in Hamoodi's direction.

"I'm here for a reason," West said, according to a solider. "You are going to tell me who wants to kill me, or I am going to kill you."

Then they took Hamoodi outside and placed his head over a clearing barrel -- a barrel filled with sand where people can unload firearms safely. West showed Hamoodi the gun and told him he had five seconds to talk. "I brought his head down toward the barrel using my left hand to shield him away from any sand or blast," West told investigators.

Then West fired into the sand, at least once, maybe three times, inches from Hamoodi's head.

Then West fired into the sky.

Some soldiers thought West had shot Hamoodi. But Hamoodi was alive, and though stiff from shock, was ready to talk.

West headed back to the operations center, and let the interrogation conclude.

The fallout from the incident

During a subsequent military hearing, Hamoodi said he was not sure what he told the interrogators, but that the information was meaningless and induced by fear and pain, the New York Times reported.

The Times reported that at least one man named was taken into custody and his home was searched. No plans for attacks on Americans or weapons were found. West testified at his hearing that he did not know whether ''any corroboration'' of a plot was ever found. ''At the time, I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received," West said. "It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi.'' Yet he also notes that no attacks occurred after the interrogation.

Hamoodi was detained another 45 days after the incident, then released without being charged.



It should be noted that the attacks ceased after that. It was valid use IMO, supported by cease of attacks. I no longer support him for gov after how he handled this. It was very hot headed. But whole heartedly agree with what he did, not is ever as it seems over there is general consensus I hear from those whom been there.


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He just assumed it was conspiratorial, that's all.

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Test was negative. All charges dropped.



Maybe it is time for some driving lessons. She was all over the place.

It is also time for the arresting officer to get some recurrent training.


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Test was negative. All charges dropped.



Maybe it is time for some driving lessons. She was all over the place.

It is also time for the arresting officer to get some recurrent training.


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I did not say reprimand the officer.

I respect everyone who serves their communities as first responders.

The police are especially needed to be given the reasonable doubt as they are in a dynamic situation every time they get out of their car. I also understand that when the body cam is on, everyone becomes a judge.

I should also add that Mrs. West should learn how to blow. She made it a sh*t show with everything she did.

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