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Re: Allen West wife arrested. [Re: dogcatcher] #8360230 08/23/21 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by dogcatcher
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I'm sick of him saying lieutenant colonel, I Don't refer to myself as Petty Officer NORML as can be..... cool2

Because he still holds the Commission for LTC and is subject to the UCMJ. When an Officer retires , They do not resign their Commission.


Even though through an Article 15 he was given the option to resign/retire or face imprisonment?


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Re: Allen West wife arrested. [Re: BigPig] #8360233 08/23/21 05:05 AM
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I'm sick of him saying lieutenant colonel, I Don't refer to myself as Petty Officer NORML as can be..... cool2

Because he still holds the Commission for LTC and is subject to the UCMJ. When an Officer retires , They do not resign their Commission.


Even though through an Article 15 he was given the option to resign/retire or face imprisonment?

Politics and kissing hiney is important once an Officer advances past the Field Grade status. My guess is that at the time it was good politics for the Army to give the options. It would have created negative news in the media if it was not offered.

There are a lot of so called "rules" in war that have to be followed. Many are broken, the thing is not to get caught breaking one.


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Re: Allen West wife arrested. [Re: dogcatcher] #8360234 08/23/21 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by dogcatcher
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I'm sick of him saying lieutenant colonel, I Don't refer to myself as Petty Officer NORML as can be..... cool2

Because he still holds the Commission for LTC and is subject to the UCMJ. When an Officer retires , They do not resign their Commission.


Even though through an Article 15 he was given the option to resign/retire or face imprisonment?

Politics and kissing hiney is important once an Officer advances past the Field Grade status. My guess is that at the time it was good politics for the Army to give the options. It would have created negative news in the media if it was not offered.

There are a lot of so called "rules" in war that have to be followed. Many are broken, the thing is not to get caught breaking one.

Yea, that will not help him. He sank the boat with this [censored] show. I would have voted for him too but the tox screne is not out yet.


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Re: Allen West wife arrested. [Re: Roll-Tide] #8360235 08/23/21 05:12 AM
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So this guy thought the Iraqi police were out to get him, thought some students at FAU were out to get his wife, and now thinks DPD is out to get his wife. Nice

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So this guy thought the Iraqi police were out to get him, thought some students at FAU were out to get his wife, and now thinks DPD is out to get his wife. Nice

Always thinks that. He had a good run up until this... he was at the border. Wasted time and money in a couple of days for nothing.. I bet ole ted is askign for a refund lol


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I’ve tried to keep my opinion open about the arrest of his wife until the facts are released but the video definitely put a bad light on him. However the post with the child is simply to much to over look in my mind now though, he’s obviously playing the victim card and showing everyone his true colors not to mention trying to throw the officer under the bus for simply doing his job and calling for his termination is nothing short of insane before any facts are brought to fruition. He committed political suicide IMO and we’re probably better off knowing all of this now verses finding out later on.

I still can’t wrap my head around what part of his brain thought him and his daughters posts were a good idea though, obviously common sense doesn’t run very deep in thr gene pool.

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He has like 23.6k subs on youtube. He migth have 16k tomorrow.


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Re: Allen West wife arrested. [Re: JCB] #8360253 08/23/21 07:22 AM
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What a tool bag
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Looks like DPD roughed the little guy up pretty good. Looks like they beat him to the point he lost conciseness! Shameful!! roflmao



Very disappointed with Mr West.

Thanks for showing your true colors.

Adios.

Re: Allen West wife arrested. [Re: Bee'z] #8360256 08/23/21 08:02 AM
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I knew about the round he popped off and given the situation did not fault him for that near as much as I have this situation to be honest.


Before the event he thought that Iraqi police officer was out to get him too. It actually propelled West into politics with the Tea Party. He capitalized on it with a lot of anti Muslim talk in his speeches which was popular with the movement at the time. He is not dumb. No matter what the outcome is with his wife's arrest, West has already taken over the narrative and for many his wronged by corrupt police YouTube speeches is all that will ever be remembered.


I appreciate you laying it out like that. I was for West before this but that tells me what I need to know and he screwed himself here. I do not have time to research this stuff so I appreciate an honest answer and trust that John.


I dug up a couple articles for you.

The original 2004 New York Times article about the event. It would not be tainted with politics as it was before he became involved with that.
https://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/27/...risked-his-career-menacing-detainee.html

One from 2012 when all the mud slinging was going on in Florida. It is a political magazine/site so take that into consideration when reading it.
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/so-allen-west-wants-talk-about-his-military-record/

Re: Allen West wife arrested. [Re: unclebubba] #8360267 08/23/21 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by unclebubba
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What a tool bag
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Complete d-bag.

Ok, now he's being a complete douche. I've lost confidence in his ability to lead.


Yep!
And I find it annoying as hell that he starts his videos telling his military rank as if to make sure everyone knows or thinks he is more important than most!
What is also very disturbing to me is that he keeps mentioning the police officers name and badge number like he is putting a target on her.


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Originally Posted by BigPig
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I'm sick of him saying lieutenant colonel, I Don't refer to myself as Petty Officer NORML as can be..... cool2

Because he still holds the Commission for LTC and is subject to the UCMJ. When an Officer retires , They do not resign their Commission.


Even though through an Article 15 he was given the option to resign/retire or face imprisonment?

Correct !
And was “allowed to retire “ even though he didn’t have the full time in service for retirement.
How do you spell entitlement???


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At least he showed his true character before we voted him in office, what a douche bag.


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Re: Allen West wife arrested. [Re: Roll-Tide] #8360372 08/23/21 12:50 PM
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Yep, this sucks.
I’ll be honest though, I still probably won’t vote for grabbot

I might write in DeSantis. grin

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Yep, this sucks.
I’ll be honest though, I still probably won’t vote for grabbot

I might write in DeSantis. grin

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Re: Allen West wife arrested. [Re: pdr55] #8360388 08/23/21 01:06 PM
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And was “allowed to retire “ even though he didn’t have the full time in service for retirement.
How do you spell entitlement???


It's one thing to question him as a politician but not his service. His political days just ended but that's not his service record.

He was Lt Col, and He had 22 years In when he retired. At 20 years Of service you are eligible for retirement @ 50% of your last three years base pay. 30 years is 75%. It's actually pretty standard for most officers to retire as 05’s, as it normally takes 16-22 year's to make 05

What he did or was accused of I doubt any of us wouldnt of done.


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We didn't know what we were getting with Trump til we got him...we already know what we have with Abbott - what we don't know is what we'd have with West...I don't give a rat's a$$ about optics or personalities now - we need fighters for Texas and for America, and West has damn sure proven he'll fight for America...he might not be the man for the job either, but I have to say Texas can do better than Abbott for these times...

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Originally Posted by PappawRock
We didn't know what we were getting with Trump til we got him...we already know what we have with Abbott - what we don't know is what we'd have with West...I don't give a rat's a$$ about optics or personalities now - we need fighters for Texas and for America, and West has damn sure proven he'll fight for America...he might not be the man for the job either, but I have to say Texas can do better than Abbott for these times...


Whats wrong with Abbott again?

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Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
Originally Posted by PappawRock
We didn't know what we were getting with Trump til we got him...we already know what we have with Abbott - what we don't know is what we'd have with West...I don't give a rat's a$$ about optics or personalities now - we need fighters for Texas and for America, and West has damn sure proven he'll fight for America...he might not be the man for the job either, but I have to say Texas can do better than Abbott for these times...


Whats wrong with Abbott again?


He shut down the economy.


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We didn't know what we were getting with Trump til we got him...we already know what we have with Abbott - what we don't know is what we'd have with West...I don't give a rat's a$$ about optics or personalities now - we need fighters for Texas and for America, and West has damn sure proven he'll fight for America...he might not be the man for the job either, but I have to say Texas can do better than Abbott for these times...


Whats wrong with Abbott again?


He shut down the economy.


Trump did the same, but it was the whole country, and most people like him....

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Originally Posted by PappawRock
We didn't know what we were getting with Trump til we got him...we already know what we have with Abbott - what we don't know is what we'd have with West...I don't give a rat's a$$ about optics or personalities now - we need fighters for Texas and for America, and West has damn sure proven he'll fight for America...he might not be the man for the job either, but I have to say Texas can do better than Abbott for these times...


Whats wrong with Abbott again?


He shut down the economy.


Trump did the same, but it was the whole country, and most people like him....


LOL, your very misinformed.


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Big Bob, I can't say there's much wrong with Abbott or the way he's attempted to face adversity in light of the world falling in around us, but I'm thinking desperate times call for desperate measures, and West might could shake things up in a positive way...kind of in the same sense as President Trump proved to be a drastic improvement over his predecessor...

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Originally Posted by PappawRock
Big Bob, I can't say there's much wrong with Abbott or the way he's attempted to face adversity in light of the world falling in around us, but I'm thinking desperate times call for desperate measures, and West might could shake things up in a positive way...kind of in the same sense as President Trump proved to be a drastic improvement over his predecessor...


Until something changes, I still support Mr. West. up


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Am I bigbob?

14 days to slow the curve, That wasn't Trump?

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Am I bigbob?

14 days to slow the curve, That wasn't Trump?


trump had no ability to shut down anything, and I stand by my first statement.


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All 3 alone are better than Abbott. Time for a true conservatives in the mansion


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