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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 09:37 PM
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The thought of Abbott having a hand in this is ridiculous. What’s to keep someone from saying West knew the officer and had his wife get arrested so he and his wife could look like a victim of the police.
Both are absurd. Y’all are comical thinking the governor sent a dwi “hit” of all things
Should be a good show It was mentioned as a possibility. If you don’t think it is possible, you haven’t been paying the least bit of attention. Again, a possibility. That is different from a fact or even a likelihood. To not consider it as a POSSIBILITY, then you obviously consider it to be impossible. I’d say that’s short-sighted and naive. I don't put ANY thing past ANY body in the nasty world of politics... woops, i mean power...
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 09:38 PM
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To me, if you think there’s some kind of political conspiracy behind this, you’re either saying the officer was forced to wrongly arrest her by someone without pc, or you’re saying she was intoxicated but someone forced her to become intoxicated or forced her to drive. None of those make sense to me.
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 09:40 PM
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If someone thinks West would make a good governor, who gives a rat's butt what his wife did or didn't do.
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 09:40 PM
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The thought of Abbott having a hand in this is ridiculous. What’s to keep someone from saying West knew the officer and had his wife get arrested so he and his wife could look like a victim of the police.
Both are absurd. Y’all are comical thinking the governor sent a dwi “hit” of all things
Should be a good show It was mentioned as a possibility. If you don’t think it is possible, you haven’t been paying the least bit of attention. Again, a possibility. That is different from a fact or even a likelihood. To not consider it as a POSSIBILITY, then you obviously consider it to be impossible. I’d say that’s short-sighted and naive. I pay attention To all the dumb speculation what if [censored] on here Magically I even know the difference between dui and dwi
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 09:42 PM
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So y’all think he just called up DPD and said arrest that woman for dwi regardless if she’s intoxicated or not? Or what, abbot “minions” spiked her drink and she never knew?
The only way someone could have a hand in this is if they called in and reported an intoxicated driver to dispatch. And I encourage anyone to do that. That’s not the caller’s fault, it’s the offender’s. Unless the caller was in on it. It’s POSSIBLE. Give me an example so I understand what you mean. I’m not being rude, really trying to understand how someone could be in on someone else driving while intoxicated. Either way, to reply to your previous response, is It within the realm of possibility yes. Is It even remotely probably, I say no. It’s unlikely. I agree. We just can’t say it’s not possible. That was my point. An example would be someone calling in to report a drunk driver. They happen to recognize who the driver is, they don’t like them or have been paid to look for them, and they call them in without just cause. That’s not so difficult for me to believe. Now, just think about how crooked and desperate politicians are. Is it that much of a stretch to think that this COULD have been a setup? I suspect she was impaired, for what it’s worth, but I’m trying not to speculate so much, with so little evidence. I have a tendency to get these things wrong when I speak out so soon. But I can talk about what’s possible. Can’t be wrong, there, cause anything is possible.
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 09:44 PM
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The thought of Abbott having a hand in this is ridiculous. What’s to keep someone from saying West knew the officer and had his wife get arrested so he and his wife could look like a victim of the police.
Both are absurd. Y’all are comical thinking the governor sent a dwi “hit” of all things
Should be a good show It was mentioned as a possibility. If you don’t think it is possible, you haven’t been paying the least bit of attention. Again, a possibility. That is different from a fact or even a likelihood. To not consider it as a POSSIBILITY, then you obviously consider it to be impossible. I’d say that’s short-sighted and naive. I pay attention To all the dumb speculation what if [censored] on here Magically I even know the difference between dui and dwi I’m not sure what you’re saying.
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 09:46 PM
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If someone thinks West would make a good governor, who gives a rat's butt what his wife did or didn't do. Have you read the comments? It’s not about what his wife did. It’s about how HE has handled it.
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 09:47 PM
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An example would be someone calling in to report a drunk driver. They happen to recognize who the driver is, they don’t like them or have been paid to look for them, and they call them in without just cause. That’s not so difficult for me to believe. Now, just think about how crooked and desperate politicians are. Is it that much of a stretch to think that this COULD have been a setup? You’re right. That could and probably does happen. But there’s not an officer in the world that would arrest based strictly on that phone call. That’s why there’s standardized field sobriety tests.
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 09:48 PM
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So y’all think he just called up DPD and said arrest that woman for dwi regardless if she’s intoxicated or not? Or what, abbot “minions” spiked her drink and she never knew?
The only way someone could have a hand in this is if they called in and reported an intoxicated driver to dispatch. And I encourage anyone to do that. That’s not the caller’s fault, it’s the offender’s. That’s not even close to what I said. Geez. Then tell me how this could have been orchestrated. I’m saying it’s possible that grabbot could have had his minions watching every move by these two because IMO he had a plausible chance at beating abbot in the race. I’m not saying in any way that DPD is or was in on anything, but if one of the minions called her in and said bla bla bla, then I think it’s a possibility, if you were dispatched on a dui call and found the vehicle and going off the info the dispatcher got from the caller , weaving, sitting at a green light, which I see all the time because they’re playing on their damn phone, or whatever, when you stopped the vehicle and the person blew a 0 would you just say “oh, my bad” or would you take them in for dui to get a blood draw? It’s definitely possible man.
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 09:48 PM
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Well, an officer in the US anyway.
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 09:54 PM
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An example would be someone calling in to report a drunk driver. They happen to recognize who the driver is, they don’t like them or have been paid to look for them, and they call them in without just cause. That’s not so difficult for me to believe. Now, just think about how crooked and desperate politicians are. Is it that much of a stretch to think that this COULD have been a setup? You’re right. That could and probably does happen. But there’s not an officer in the world that would arrest based strictly on that phone call. That’s why there’s standardized field sobriety tests. Absolutely, however, people can be influenced by these things even when they try not to be. The human mind is a funny thing. That phone call starts the ball of guilt rolling. Add in a few questionable details, and it’s difficult to stop. I’ve been led astray in similar ways. I believe even well-trained and experienced officers can be unknowingly influenced by these things. She’s probably guilty, though. I’d love to see the video.
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 09:56 PM
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To be super clear, I don’t think anyone is claiming officer involvement. I’m certainly not. I will say it’s possible, but that’s not likely and not what I’ve been talking about.
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 09:57 PM
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Man they are always gonna show what they are..............West just proved it.
Ya gonna pick a side whether you think so or not. I wont vote for West.
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 10:03 PM
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So y’all think he just called up DPD and said arrest that woman for dwi regardless if she’s intoxicated or not? Or what, abbot “minions” spiked her drink and she never knew?
The only way someone could have a hand in this is if they called in and reported an intoxicated driver to dispatch. And I encourage anyone to do that. That’s not the caller’s fault, it’s the offender’s. That’s not even close to what I said. Geez. Then tell me how this could have been orchestrated. I’m saying it’s possible that grabbot could have had his minions watching every move by these two because IMO he had a plausible chance at beating abbot in the race. I’m not saying in any way that DPD is or was in on anything, but if one of the minions called her in and said bla bla bla, then I think it’s a possibility, if you were dispatched on a dui call and found the vehicle and going off the info the dispatcher got from the caller , weaving, sitting at a green light, which I see all the time because they’re playing on their damn phone, or whatever, when you stopped the vehicle and the person blew a 0 would you just say “oh, my bad” or would you take them in for dui to get a blood draw? It’s definitely possible man. No investigation would ever go the way you just said. It doesn’t work that way at all. First, I would see their demeanor in the car (eyes, speech, body movements, smell, etc). If I decided there was more to It I would ask them to step out of the car, again watching for signs of intoxication. Then I would administer field sobriety tests. If they failed, then I would have more than just some callers word. I would have the call info, plus my investigation. I would then make the arrest. I don’t use a pbt which is the road side breath test. After I determine they are under arrest, I read the person the proper paperwork and ask for breath if I suspect alcohol. If they consent, they are taken to the intoxilyzer room where the breath test is administered. At that point, if the person blew 0, It doesn’t mean they aren’t intoxicated. It means it’s not from alcohol. I would then go through the steps to get blood. The person is already under arrest at that time. This happens all over the country exactly like I described every single day. What also happens thousands of times a day are intoxicated/reckless driver calls where no one is found to be intoxicated and no one goes to jail. It takes about two seconds after stopping someone to know if somethings up or not. You think the state can afford to arrest thousands of innocent people every day and pay to draw their blood for no reason. Do you think officers/cities can afford thelawsuits that would stem from thousands of unlawful seizures, a constitutional violation. Actually do you even know what It takes to get blood without consent? It takes a search warrant issued by a judge. No warrant shall issue without probable cause. Probable cause meaning the findings of the roadside investigation. Uncorroborated calls to dispatch are not pc for anything. So no, people aren’t just taken in to get blood just for the heck of It.
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 10:06 PM
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An example would be someone calling in to report a drunk driver. They happen to recognize who the driver is, they don’t like them or have been paid to look for them, and they call them in without just cause. That’s not so difficult for me to believe. Now, just think about how crooked and desperate politicians are. Is it that much of a stretch to think that this COULD have been a setup? You’re right. That could and probably does happen. But there’s not an officer in the world that would arrest based strictly on that phone call. That’s why there’s standardized field sobriety tests. Absolutely, however, people can be influenced by these things even when they try not to be. The human mind is a funny thing. That phone call starts the ball of guilt rolling. Add in a few questionable details, and it’s difficult to stop. I’ve been led astray in similar ways. I believe even well-trained and experienced officers can be unknowingly influenced by these things. She’s probably guilty, though. I’d love to see the video. Yes that could happen. I would say more so with inexperienced officers than experienced. Young officer who get something stuck in their mind. That does happen.
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 10:10 PM
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West possibly orchestrated the entire stop for liberal Texas votes. It’s possible.
He’s a POS. How’s he in Texas politics? Oh, he lost 3 times in Florida and came here. He’s no Texan.
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 10:11 PM
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Before some smart a corrects me, yes I know that on felony dwi due to the exigency, you can get blood without a warrant. Here we always get a warrant though. DA wants a judge reviewing It beforehand, and I agree with that.
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 10:19 PM
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Cbump, I think you are biased because of the way you do things, and maybe by the way your peers do things, as well. I hope so, since we live in the same area. The vast majority of LEO do things right, or at least try to. I’d like to think they all do, but we know that’s not the case. Sometimes you have bad cops or cops that just aren’t cut out for it. Inexperience can play a huge part, as well. The folks issuing warrants aren’t always in the right, either.
Again, that isn’t what I was talking about, but it does factor in, as well. I figure that officer made the best call that they could, but I don’t know that.
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 10:21 PM
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West possibly orchestrated the entire stop for liberal Texas votes. It’s possible.
He’s a POS. How’s he in Texas politics? Oh, he lost 3 times in Florida and came here. He’s no Texan. Do I need to point out the obvious, here?
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 10:24 PM
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Before some smart a corrects me, yes I know that on felony dwi due to the exigency, you can get blood without a warrant. Here we always get a warrant though. DA wants a judge reviewing It beforehand, and I agree with that. Good thing you posted this.
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 10:25 PM
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Cbump, you’re biased dude. No two ways about it. But that’s cool.
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 10:26 PM
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West possibly orchestrated the entire stop for liberal Texas votes. It’s possible.
He’s a POS. How’s he in Texas politics? Oh, he lost 3 times in Florida and came here. He’s no Texan. Do I need to point out the obvious, here? Right!
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West possibly orchestrated the entire stop for liberal Texas votes. It’s possible.
He’s a POS. How’s he in Texas politics? Oh, he lost 3 times in Florida and came here. He’s no Texan. Then he needs to take his butt back to Florida and take his wife with him !.
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 10:45 PM
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Now why is there so much animosity towards him?
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Re: Allen West wife arrested.
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08/22/21 10:50 PM
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I don’t have a clue about DWI laws or how that stuff works but I will say his video probably showed his true colors.. I thought he seemed like a solid guy but he managed to change my mind inside of 2 minutes. Playing the victim card will get no sympathy from me,, ever!
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