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this buck would have been killed last year but with the AR he got to grow a little more,so it does work give it a try!

this year pic

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Ruger, just out of curiousity, how do you know it's the same deer?

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pics are not that great but if you will look at the horns his g-3's are kinda crab clawed and he was a local at the feeder last year,if not must be his daddy but I am pretty sure it is him

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Good for the TPWD! They have to enact ARs because there are too many yahoos who shoot anything with horns. Making it illegal is the only way to get these guys on board.

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Good for the TPWD! They have to enact ARs because there are too many yahoos who shoot anything with horns. Making it illegal is the only way to get these guys on board.

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If I want to shoot anything with horns, that is between me and the land owner. This decision should NOT be made by the ones I share a fence line with.

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Good for the TPWD! They have to enact ARs because there are too many yahoos who shoot anything with horns. Making it illegal is the only way to get these guys on board.

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If I want to shoot anything with horns, that is between me and the land owner. This decision should NOT be made by the ones I share a fence line with.

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Well since everyone (technically the state) owns the deer, then yes your neighbor has as much input as you or me on what types of deer should be killed.

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If you want to grow your own deer, build a high fence. Then you can shoot a buck as soon as his horns poke through his skin and you'll be happy! For the "meat". LOL!

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pics are not that great but if you will look at the horns his g-3's are kinda crab clawed and he was a local at the feeder last year,if not must be his daddy but I am pretty sure it is him

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I agree...... that is part of hunting. Letting one walk hoping that he improves over the course of a year is a gamble.


for those worried about measuring a 13" wide deer... the ones with the low set horns are easy to judge...the ones that pull this mess can be a challenge. I saw what his daddy looked like so he is safe for the next few yrs... or until the neighbors shoot him the second he hits the 13" mark.

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Therefore, state regs should be enacted to protect that deer in the best interest of the state.

If you want to grow your own deer, build a high fence. Then you can shoot a buck as soon as his horns poke through his skin and you'll be happy! For the "meat". LOL!

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Therefore, state regs should be enacted to protect that deer in the best interest of the state.

If you want to grow your own deer, build a high fence. Then you can shoot a buck as soon as his horns poke through his skin and you'll be happy! For the "meat". LOL!

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AR's protect the interests of the trophy hunter, not the deer.

If you want to manage your bucks for quality horns, why don't you build a high fence around your place? Speaking of which, if someone builds a high fence, how come they are not required to reimburse the state for those deer that are no longer allowed to roam free?

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I agree...... that is part of hunting. Letting one walk hoping that he improves over the course of a year is a gamble.


for those worried about measuring a 13" wide deer... the ones with the low set horns are easy to judge...the ones that pull this mess can be a challenge. I saw what his daddy looked like so he is safe for the next few yrs... or until the neighbors shoot him the second he hits the 13" mark.

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Therefore, state regs should be enacted to protect that deer in the best interest of the state.

If you want to grow your own deer, build a high fence. Then you can shoot a buck as soon as his horns poke through his skin and you'll be happy! For the "meat". LOL!

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AR's protect the interests of the trophy hunter, not the deer.

If you want to manage your bucks for quality horns, why don't you build a high fence around your place? Speaking of which, if someone builds a high fence, how come they are not required to reimburse the state for those deer that are no longer allowed to roam free?

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Therefore, state regs should be enacted to protect that deer in the best interest of the state.

If you want to grow your own deer, build a high fence. Then you can shoot a buck as soon as his horns poke through his skin and you'll be happy! For the "meat". LOL!

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AR's protect the interests of the trophy hunter, not the deer.

If you want to manage your bucks for quality horns, why don't you build a high fence around your place? Speaking of which, if someone builds a high fence, how come they are not required to reimburse the state for those deer that are no longer allowed to roam free?

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Therefore, state regs should be enacted to protect that deer in the best interest of the state.

If you want to grow your own deer, build a high fence. Then you can shoot a buck as soon as his horns poke through his skin and you'll be happy! For the "meat". LOL!

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AR's protect the interests of the trophy hunter, not the deer.

If you want to manage your bucks for quality horns, why don't you build a high fence around your place? Speaking of which, if someone builds a high fence, how come they are not required to reimburse the state for those deer that are no longer allowed to roam free?

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You are obviously uneducated about the point and outcomes of AR's. You should do some reading about the idea behind it instead of assuming that because it is based on antler size it is about trophy hunting.
For example, look at how many post, JUST ON THIS ONE THREAD, say "we see sooo many more deer"!!!

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I don't think there is right and wrong here. Just different stages. Because someone is not in the same stage as you doesn't make them wrong.



SHOOTER STAGE
The hunter talks about satisfaction with hunting being closely tied to being able to "get shooting." Often the beginning duck hunter will relate he had an excellent day if he got in a lot of shooting. The beginning deer hunter will talk about the number of shooting opportunities. Missing game means little to hunters in this phase. A beginning hunter wants to pull the trigger and test the capability of his firearm. A hunter in this stage may be a dangerous hunting partner.

LIMITING OUT STAGE
A hunter still talks about satisfaction gained from shooting. But what seems more important is measuring success through the killing of game and the number of birds or animals shot. Limiting out, or filling a tag, is the absolute measure. Do not let your desire to limit out be stronger than the need for safe behavior at all times.

TROPHY STAGE
Satisfaction is described in terms of selectivity of game. A duck hunter might take only greenheads. A deer hunter looks for one special deer. A hunter might travel far to find a real trophy animal. Shooting opportunity and skills become less important.

METHOD STAGE
This hunter has all the special equipment. Hunting has become one of the most important things in his life. Satisfaction comes from the method that enables the hunter to take game. Taking game is important, but second to how it is taken. This hunter will study long and hard how best to pick a blind site, lay out decoys, and call in waterfowl. A deer hunter will go one on one with a white-tailed deer, studying sign, tracking, and the life habits of the deer. Often, the hunter will handicap himself by hunting only with black powder firearms or bow and arrow. Bagging game, or limiting, still is understood as being a necessary part of the hunt during this phase.


SPORTSMAN STAGE
As a hunter ages and after many years of hunting, he "mellows out." Satisfaction now can be found in the total hunting experience. Being in the field, enjoying the company of friends and family, and seeing nature outweigh the need for taking game. Not all hunters go through all the stages, or go through them in that particular order. It is also possible for hunters who pursue several species of game to be in different stages with regard to each species. Some hunters feel that role models of good sportsmen, training, or reading books or magazines helped them pass more quickly through some stages.

Five Stages of a Hunter - Click Here

I'm in the Old Fart Stage.

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Therefore, state regs should be enacted to protect that deer in the best interest of the state.

If you want to grow your own deer, build a high fence. Then you can shoot a buck as soon as his horns poke through his skin and you'll be happy! For the "meat". LOL!

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AR's protect the interests of the trophy hunter, not the deer.

If you want to manage your bucks for quality horns, why don't you build a high fence around your place? Speaking of which, if someone builds a high fence, how come they are not required to reimburse the state for those deer that are no longer allowed to roam free?

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Just more infiltration into how we live our lives, every law they make equates to a right we lose,desensitizing us to future "freedom theft". A little at a time, we can't even feel it slippin away, at least some of us can't.

Those of you who read this and think I am overreacting need to take the horn blinders off.

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I don't think there is right and wrong here. Just different stages. Because someone is not in the same stage as you doesn't make them wrong.



SHOOTER STAGE
The hunter talks about satisfaction with hunting being closely tied to being able to "get shooting." Often the beginning duck hunter will relate he had an excellent day if he got in a lot of shooting. The beginning deer hunter will talk about the number of shooting opportunities. Missing game means little to hunters in this phase. A beginning hunter wants to pull the trigger and test the capability of his firearm. A hunter in this stage may be a dangerous hunting partner.

LIMITING OUT STAGE
A hunter still talks about satisfaction gained from shooting. But what seems more important is measuring success through the killing of game and the number of birds or animals shot. Limiting out, or filling a tag, is the absolute measure. Do not let your desire to limit out be stronger than the need for safe behavior at all times.

TROPHY STAGE
Satisfaction is described in terms of selectivity of game. A duck hunter might take only greenheads. A deer hunter looks for one special deer. A hunter might travel far to find a real trophy animal. Shooting opportunity and skills become less important.

METHOD STAGE
This hunter has all the special equipment. Hunting has become one of the most important things in his life. Satisfaction comes from the method that enables the hunter to take game. Taking game is important, but second to how it is taken. This hunter will study long and hard how best to pick a blind site, lay out decoys, and call in waterfowl. A deer hunter will go one on one with a white-tailed deer, studying sign, tracking, and the life habits of the deer. Often, the hunter will handicap himself by hunting only with black powder firearms or bow and arrow. Bagging game, or limiting, still is understood as being a necessary part of the hunt during this phase.


SPORTSMAN STAGE
As a hunter ages and after many years of hunting, he "mellows out." Satisfaction now can be found in the total hunting experience. Being in the field, enjoying the company of friends and family, and seeing nature outweigh the need for taking game. Not all hunters go through all the stages, or go through them in that particular order. It is also possible for hunters who pursue several species of game to be in different stages with regard to each species. Some hunters feel that role models of good sportsmen, training, or reading books or magazines helped them pass more quickly through some stages.

Five Stages of a Hunter - Click Here

I'm in the Old Fart Stage.

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Therefore, state regs should be enacted to protect that deer in the best interest of the state.

If you want to grow your own deer, build a high fence. Then you can shoot a buck as soon as his horns poke through his skin and you'll be happy! For the "meat". LOL!

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AR's protect the interests of the trophy hunter, not the deer.

If you want to manage your bucks for quality horns, why don't you build a high fence around your place? Speaking of which, if someone builds a high fence, how come they are not required to reimburse the state for those deer that are no longer allowed to roam free?

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You are obviously uneducated about the point and outcomes of AR's. You should do some reading about the idea behind it instead of assuming that because it is based on antler size it is about trophy hunting.
For example, look at how many post, JUST ON THIS ONE THREAD, say "we see sooo many more deer"!!!

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And look at those of us that say we see less or just the same amount of deer but can't shoot a buck because it's still not wide enough, oops I meant mature enough. You shouldn't be calling anyone uneducated. We know what we have seen and haven't seen since manditory ARs. A meat hunter can be as educated as a trophy hunter. So what if "a yahoo" wants to shoot a small buck? OMG, how did we ever survive without ARs? I notice on the THF that there are way more folks calling meat hunters insulting names than the other way around. No bueno. Why hasn't anyone bothered to answer Dry Fire's question about "if someone builds a high fence, how come they are not required to reimburse the state for those deer that are no longer allowed to roam free?"

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