We used to use the intermediate length gas on 18" and 20" barrels and they run fine with 125gr or heavier bullets over AA1680 or CFEBLK, but just don't put out enough gas pressure with lighter bullets and SOCOM powder even with the port at max size. So just to make our life easier at WC we've changed all 16" or longer to mid gas which is much more forgiving.

I actually like the inter best personally, especially when running a suppressor. But I understand the limitations.

I bought these to run either the 110 vmax or 110 sierra hp for coyote hunting. All 4 of us live in missouri no hogs to be found and want the flattest trajectory. Is there anyway to work with WC to swap my barrel for one with the mid length so it will cycle all bullet weights?

As long as you run CFEBLK and use a std MilSpec buffer/spring you won't have any issues with 110gr. Run some of the #s on one of the ballistic calculators like the one on Hornady's web site and I think you'll find some of the heavier bullets actually shoot flatter. The Sierra 110 HP has a terrible BC and we're disc that load.

nooooooooo!!!!!!!

i like the 110s. they kill like lightning (if i can hit them). blow up like a firecracker. if you must, then discontinue them now and send them to me!!!

Bill, Finally decided to add a 300 HAM'R to my hog rifle collection and went to the Wilson Combat site intent on buying a 20" and found none. I was sure I had seen them earlier but sent an E-mail and was told that you don't make them and 18" was the longest that I could buy. Is this so? Are there any plans to make a 20" barrel in the future?

DJ don't panic, we're only disc the Sierra 110gr HP, we're still loading both the 110gr Hornady SP and Speer SP

Sierra bullets have gotten so expensive compared to Hornady and Speer that we're phasing out of them all together.

No plans to make anymore 20" in the near future. Due to extreme demand we're focusing on the best selling barrels in all calibers that we can produce in larger production runs which increases the # of barrels we can produce per month. We're up to 3000 barrels a month and are getting further behind every month. The current demand is crazy!!!

We're not even producing the following slower selling calibers at all right now:

.204 Ruger
.243
6mm ARC
6mm CM
7.62x40WT
.338 Fed
.358 Win
.375 SOCOM

All this being said 18" is the "sweet spot" for velocity and portability.

However if your dead set on a 20" I have 2 uppers that shoot really good with 20" bbls on them that I'll either sell the complete upper or pull the bbls and sell them since I never shoot these and would use them if they had 16" bbls on them.

▲ That is pretty darn Nice of you to offer such a thing Bill! Now I know that story I read about you in the Gazette years back is totally true.

Alright I never considered the Sierra 110gr #2110.. but DJones reaffirms a lot of the reviews about it being explosive, and others stating the bad BC's as mentioned by Wilson.. Still tempted to try them

I'm not going to deny that Sierra is and has been getting more expensive, but I still enjoy loading and shooting them.. perhaps not by the case load

Which brings me to my question, has anyone tried the 135gr Varminter HP #2124 ??
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1482381269

QuickLOAD lists them as .020" shorter than the Hornady 135gr FTX #3027..

I haven't tried the newest 150gr version of it #2136
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1022504124

But man, oh man, do I Love the 165gr HP Gameking #2140 in my .308's

Bill PM sent

The Sierra 135gr HP shoots real well and I was told by the previous CEO of Sierra that it's a favorite in Australia for hog hunting out of .308s. Down side is that it builds pressure quickly so you can't push it very fast.

I’m in southeast Missouri. We have hogs around most of our area. We actually trap ours though. Our farm is near Lake Wappapello

I have two 300 ham’r rifles built with Wilson’s barrels. Both rifles are very accurate and shoot pretty much any load under 1.5” and loads they like under 1”, the brass is easy to make and lasts a long time once it is formed too. The only issue I’ve had is with the 18” rifle with the intermediate gas tube, it has a hard time functioning 150gr bullets even with the gas block fully open, it runs but doesn’t lock back, it’s odd since I really cranked up the pressure to get it to lock back. The 16” rifle with the mid-length barrel will digest anything. I wonder if since the powder charge on the 150 gr loads is so much smaller, if the gas volume isn’t where it should be for my intermediate system? I’m not sure volume matters at all to be honest. I just put a new very tight bcg in it to see if it helps. It’s -8 this morning so not sure how that’s gonna affect it lol, at least it’s not -40, could always be worse.

Sounds like you need the port opened up one drill size, send the complete upper in and we'll open the port up, test fire and return to you the next business day N/C. Send it in atttn. Tressa

Wow that’s great service! I’m gonna tinker with it and see if I can’t make it work first, I don’t use the 150’s much and it shoots everything else fine. I own several of y’all’s barrels and have used some of your weapons at work. I have to say your products are excellent in my experience.

I’ve read this whole thing backwards and forward. I am curious what everyone has decided in general. The sst (savage variant) 150g. Or the WC/Speer ham’r bonded 150s. Also. Is there anymore of the later coming at some point or was that a one time hookup with them?

Yup I'm still liking that 110 SP, but then again haven't tried several of the other bullets. 135 FTX next on my list. In the fields the faster velocity of the 110's is nice when the hogs get out further running, less drop, less lead.

I like the 125gr tnt, they actually hold together better than a traditional varmint bullet plus are cheap and accurate. When you buy them bulk they are $15.50 per 100. I tried Sierra 150 gr rn bullets for the brush but really like the tnts and would feel comfortable taking most medium game with it. Still can’t find any 130 gr hot-cor bullets.

Bullets are tough right now and getting tougher. We're just now starting to receive orders that were placed back in June from Hornady and Speer. The major ammo mfg can't keep up with enough production to load their own ammo so OEM bulk orders are taking second priority now. We've been getting in some Hornady bullets lately and have been promised a large shipment of the 130gr HAM'R HOT-COR (both OEM bulk and packaged 100ct for re-sale) by early Feb.. We hope to eventually get more 135 and 150gr bonded from Speer.

In the meantime if you can find either the 150gr Speer Gold Dot or Federal Fusion they are similar bullets made with the same technology.

I heard that Mr W. I own a roofing/siding company and we are just now receiving siding materials for jobs we sold back in august if you can believe that I’m so over this year as most are!!! I received my brass from y’all yesterday and I
Have 125 PHs and some 135 ftx to play with. Upper will be here today.

New question. I have dropes too much in this build plus the new can I have in jail. Plus a new house buil starting in April ....I’m not dropping the 500-700 on a labradoodle I’m considering the competition electronic pro chrono DLX. Or the Caldwell g2. What’s y’all’s opinions on them two

Damnit today is new gun day when I get home from work.

I have used similar style chronographs for years and as long as they are consistent and give you the data you need then the only major downside is how limiting the shot window is, I switched to a Magnetospeed V3 this year and it has been a phenomenal investment, set up ten targets on the backer board and collect 10 strings of data without having to reset the chronograph position every time. its a little bit higher in price than the two you have listed but far under the Labradar.

I'm using the Labradar now, but had a lot of good years with the Competition Electronic ProChrono.
As for bullets and the 300 HAM'R, I've always favor the 125 to 135 weight range. Just seems like a good compromise between velocity and mass. But now that I have my stash set back, I think it is time to try a few of the 150's. Mr. Wilson is just having too much success with them not to see how they would work in my rifles.

Like Greycard I've used Comp Electronics Pro Chronos for years with good success and still use it when clocking suppressed guns, but the LabR is really nice and convenient to use. I do know CE has very good customer service.

Here’s a couple 300 ham’r rifles I built. I’m building another for one of my daughters who loves the rifle on the left. both rifles use Wilson combat barrels and are both shooting sub moa with my bulk 125gr tnt loads over a near max load of CFE blk with cci450 primers. The one on the left is an 18” intermediate gassed 1-15 twist, the rifle on the right is 16” mid gassed 1-13” twist. Very handy rifles and much lower recoil vs my 7.62x39 AR. There’s no comparison accuracy wise, the 300 ham’r seems inherently accurate.

I like the idea of you saying you are going to build another one for your daughter. I notice you didn't say you were going to give her one of these.

Has anyone tried:




Federal Bullets 7.62x51mm NATO (308 Diameter) 130 Grain Open Tip Match AKA MK319 130gr SOST
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/953120598

I've wanted some to try out for a while in the .308's never got around to getting any. I through a bid out on gunbroker and just got 1k for $305 shipped. Pretty cheap in my eyes considering.

The seller posted another case as my auction ended.. 2 - available now.
https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=PB762BM

I also contacted RMR after seeing this..
https://www.rmrbullets.com/shop/bul...n-sost-mk319-otm-bullets-new-production/
It's an old link and they don't have any, and aren't going to get any in the foreseeable future.

I've been digging around and finding a lot of guys use them in the 7.62x40WT and 300BLK with great results. Just seeing if anyone has any experience with them in the HAM`R, one of the selling points to me on the cartridge was the substantial increase in power over traditional defense rifles and I feel these bullets will absolutely fill that role.

Thanks for any info, Stay Warm & Healthy out there!