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200+ inch LF typical #8076696 12/05/20 01:23 AM
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I will probably regret posting this but I am on several forums and this one is the most respectful and fair that I have seen. The others not so much. I like to share what we do in hopes that others realize that world class LF bucks can be produced if you are on the right ranch and are willing to be patient and willing to work hard at it.

To me a trophy is the top end buck an area is able to produce - that may mean Hill Country a 140 or North Texas a 150 or whatever. To me the goal should always be to only harvest deer that have reached their maximum potential for the area they are in.

This is a 200 inch plus typical buck that we aged at 5 years old (this is the third year we have watched him) so we gave him a pass this year. I get that many folks will ask how could you let that deer walk? Our ranch and lease is all about long term management so this buck will get to breed for one more year and pass his genes on.

Yes he may not survive to next year or may go downhill but that is the risk that is taken when true long term management is the goal. If he survives to next year and goes backwards then we will let him walk another year to breed and hope he bounces back. Right or wrong that is how we roll.

Our guess is that he is 25-27 inches inside spread. As a side note the deer in the background of this picture is around 170 inches but nobody seems to notice! lol

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Jaw dropper!!! Truly world class!

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With a little rain and some luck you could be looking at a deer that could give the Hanson buck a run for its money next year.

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Awesome buck, we pass up many deer just to shoot a 130-140 class deer. I can’t imagine seeing a low fence deer like that!

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Hell of a 5 year old. Great buck!

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what type of progression since 3 1/2?

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Truly unbelievable! What y’all do is on different level! Congrats

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Is that a trail cam pic?

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Amazing deer bud. And excellent management plan. The more does he sires the more that can become common place. Herd management is not a sprint.


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Originally Posted by Roll-Tide
Is that a trail cam pic?


no one of our hunters got video of him and this is a still pic from that


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Originally Posted by Hudbone
what type of progression since 3 1/2?


was very nice two years ago and went backwards a little last year then blew up this year


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Truly amazing. You and your other hunters are very committed to your goal. Hard to find that any more. You all are doing a heck of a job.

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WOW...Nice work on your herd management!!

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That’s a deer of 3 lifetimes, whatever y’all are doing is obviously working!!

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I’d let that guy die of old age in hopes he could breed as many as possible.


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Cheese and crackers! What a special animal that is. I admire the patience and dedication it takes to grow deer like that and pass on them when the protocol says to do so.

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Good lord. That’s what my dreams are made of. World record potential deer

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I am not sure i could pass that guy up. He might have a heart attack right in front of my stand.....


Unreal deer. Just unreal. You have a great system going out there tlk!

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Amazing animal. Honest question here, so please don’t take it as a slight. Have y’all done nothing more than selective harvests and supplemental feeding? In other words, was it just god’s country and y’all just provide groceries and let them get old? Or are there other things you had to do to get where you are?

Much respect for the discipline it takes to get where y’all are. Hope he puts on 20 more inches next year.

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At 5 he should have already passed his genes along. Genes don’t change from year to year, and if he took a year back then blew up, would you have had the same thought a year ago? I admire the conviction and commitment, there is nothing I will disagree on there. I wouldn’t have taken it to chance though if I saw him this year — that’s a one in a lifetime.

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Low fence !!! Amazing !

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Originally Posted by Grosvenor
Amazing animal. Honest question here, so please don’t take it as a slight. Have y’all done nothing more than selective harvests and supplemental feeding? In other words, was it just god’s country and y’all just provide groceries and let them get old? Or are there other things you had to do to get where you are?

Much respect for the discipline it takes to get where y’all are. Hope he puts on 20 more inches next year.


No offense taken. Multiple things IMO. Next season will be my 14th year on the lease so we obviously have a great relationship with the LO and long term lease agreements. The LO and our members are all on the same page when it comes to management.

Yes we feed protein, cottonseed, and corn and we are obviously very patient and selective in the deer we take. Does not mean there have been a few mistakes over the years but all in all we err on the side of caution if we do not think a deer is mature.

Yes the forbs and brush on the ranch are excellent which obviously makes a difference. It is a large ranch. To me one of the major things done was adding water pilas all over the ranch which made a huge difference. Even if our tanks go dry in drought there is always water available. There are no livestock on the ranch nor oil field traffic.

In addition the LO and our lease members cull hard. I get that there are folks out there who say culling has no impact but in our case we have done it for years and the results are hard to argue with. We vary the number of does we kill each year based on fawn survival and range conditions. We kill culls on sight and some management bucks. There is no reason in our opinion to let a 3-4 year old basic 8 point walk unless he has some distinguishing feature (huge frame, unusual mass, etc.) We have too many 10-20 point deer to let 8's walk.

So there is a lot more to it than feed. The biggest challenge is finding the right lease members who are willing to be super patient and work with each other. Yes we have rules but they are common sense rules and yes we follow them (including me). So end of the day and as I have told many folks it does not happen by accident.


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Jaw dropper!!! Truly world class!

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Originally Posted by tlk
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Amazing animal. Honest question here, so please don’t take it as a slight. Have y’all done nothing more than selective harvests and supplemental feeding? In other words, was it just god’s country and y’all just provide groceries and let them get old? Or are there other things you had to do to get where you are?

Much respect for the discipline it takes to get where y’all are. Hope he puts on 20 more inches next year.


No offense taken. Multiple things IMO. Next season will be my 14th year on the lease so we obviously have a great relationship with the LO and long term lease agreements. The LO and our members are all on the same page when it comes to management.

Yes we feed protein, cottonseed, and corn and we are obviously very patient and selective in the deer we take. Does not mean there have been a few mistakes over the years but all in all we err on the side of caution if we do not think a deer is mature.

Yes the forbs and brush on the ranch are excellent which obviously makes a difference. It is a large ranch. To me one of the major things done was adding water pilas all over the ranch which made a huge difference. Even if our tanks go dry in drought there is always water available. There are no livestock on the ranch nor oil field traffic.

In addition the LO and our lease members cull hard. I get that there are folks out there who say culling has no impact but in our case we have done it for years and the results are hard to argue with. We vary the number of does we kill each year based on fawn survival and range conditions. We kill culls on sight and some management bucks. There is no reason in our opinion to let a 3-4 year old basic 8 point walk unless he has some distinguishing feature (huge frame, unusual mass, etc.) We have too many 10-20 point deer to let 8's walk.

So there is a lot more to it than feed. The biggest challenge is finding the right lease members who are willing to be super patient and work with each other. Yes we have rules but they are common sense rules and yes we follow them (including me). So end of the day and as I have told many folks it does not happen by accident.

Sounds like the best deer hunting lease in the state of Texas!

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