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Does headstamp not matching bother you? #8074597 12/03/20 06:20 PM
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An example, 7mm-08 can be formed from .243 Win, .260 Rem, and .308. If it was 7mm-08 ammo, but had a headstamp of one of the ones mentioned, does that bug you? Even if the ammo chambers and shoots excellent.

Does headstamp not matching bother you?
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Sounds like a good way to get someone seriously hurt....that's a very, very bad idea, IMO.

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Originally Posted by DocHorton
Sounds like a good way to get someone seriously hurt....that's a very, very bad idea, IMO.


I've shot a whole lot of ammo that the headstamp didn't match. 7mm-08 yesterday that had a brass headstamp.243. So it shoots very well.

I assume you're meaning someone trying to put the wrong cartridge into a chamber? .308 headstamp, but 7mm-08 ammo would go into a .308 chamber.


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Originally Posted by DocHorton
Sounds like a good way to get someone seriously hurt....that's a very, very bad idea, IMO.

As long as the round won't chamber, it's much less of an issue.

For local shooting, the headstamp isn't really an issue for me. If you want to travel internationally, it's obviously a problem.


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I voted yes but I’m particular on rifle ammo. On my 9mm I’ll load 115s with 147s and don’t care. It’s an up close and personal gun.

I would say that anyone hunting no matter what their understanding or reasoning is, would take issue with it. Even if they didn’t know why.

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Wait y’all are talking about something I’m not. I’m talking about Remington vs Winchester, etc. the only way I would shoot something of the wrong caliber would be if I did it myself. Like all my 338-06 said 35 Whelen. I’d never trust it from another reloader unless I knew them and we discussed it extensively.

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Guess I should take the time to read the post instead of just the title.

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I was offered some .308 brass to use for forming my 7-08, and I declined, just wanting to keep headstamps matching. When I shoot, I place the brass in the spot where it lived in my MTM box, so I think I would be able to keep it all sorted just fine, but just for extra safety and precautions I decided not to mix. However, if I was ever desperate for brass, I would do so if I needed to.


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If you’re talking about your reloading adventure I will send you 7-08 federal or .308 mixed brass for, idk, free.

If your name is not Jason Garvey please don’t ask for me to send you brass. It gets tiresome.

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Originally Posted by wp75169
If you’re talking about your reloading adventure I will send you 7-08 federal or .308 mixed brass for, idk, free.

If your name is not Jason Garvey please don’t ask for me to send you brass. It gets tiresome.

Send me some brass please...


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For your own use, it is up to you and no big deal as long as the neck outside diameter is within SAAMI specs for chambers.

For selling it is a complete non-starter and a massive lawsuit just waiting to happen as well as a likely violation of state consumer protection laws.

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Originally Posted by wp75169
If you’re talking about your reloading adventure I will send you 7-08 federal or .308 mixed brass for, idk, free.

If your name is not Jason Garvey please don’t ask for me to send you brass. It gets tiresome.


I'll take it, and I'll pay the shipping and handling.


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Yes and no. I have been thinking about turning a surplus of 270 brass into 30-06 which im pretty short on, but decided against it as I have and load for a few 270's and 30-06's.

I would however use say 308 or 260 to form 7mm08 as i do not have a 260 or a 308.


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Originally Posted by jeffbird
For your own use, it is up to you and no big deal as long as the neck outside diameter is within SAAMI specs for chambers.

For selling it is a complete non-starter and a massive lawsuit just waiting to happen as well as a likely violation of state consumer protection laws.


Thank you, Jeff.


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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
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For your own use, it is up to you and no big deal as long as the neck outside diameter is within SAAMI specs for chambers.

For selling it is a complete non-starter and a massive lawsuit just waiting to happen as well as a likely violation of state consumer protection laws.


Thank you, Jeff.


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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
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Sounds like a good way to get someone seriously hurt....that's a very, very bad idea, IMO.


I've shot a whole lot of ammo that the headstamp didn't match. 7mm-08 yesterday that had a brass headstamp.243. So it shoots very well.

I assume you're meaning someone trying to put the wrong cartridge into a chamber? .308 headstamp, but 7mm-08 ammo would go into a .308 chamber.


Yes, I mean someone chambering the wrong round, based on the headstamp. You have to remember most people are stupid, and if you are planning on selling it you could face a huge liability issue.

If just loading your own, of course it doesn't matter.

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Originally Posted by DocHorton
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Sounds like a good way to get someone seriously hurt....that's a very, very bad idea, IMO.


I've shot a whole lot of ammo that the headstamp didn't match. 7mm-08 yesterday that had a brass headstamp.243. So it shoots very well.

I assume you're meaning someone trying to put the wrong cartridge into a chamber? .308 headstamp, but 7mm-08 ammo would go into a .308 chamber.


Yes, I mean someone chambering the wrong round, based on the headstamp. You have to remember most people are stupid, and if you are planning on selling it you could face a huge liability issue.

If just loading your own, of course it doesn't matter.


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Pm address. I’ll get it out tomorrow.

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If you're going to shoot a wildcat caliber, you learn pretty early on to get your mind around brass whose headstamp doesn't mean much.

Currently, I'm loading for the .338-06 Ackley Imp and the bulk of my brass says .30-06 Sprg. Only comparatively recently did I get my hands on a bunch of .338-06 Weatherby brass...so at least the numbers are CLOSER to being accurate.

The 6mm/.233 and 6mm TCU? All the cases say .223 Rem and always will. I studiously label all the boxes and that's good enough for me.

Of course, I ain't in the ammo business...and if I was I'd have to consider things maybe a bit differently. There's always a personal injury lawyer whose ranch ain't paid off yet...

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For example working up a .308 load in thinner, lighter, Winchester brass and then using that same load in heavier, thicker, Lake City or Magtech brass could result in drastically shortened case life, serious injury, or death.

When comparing case weight/case capacity of military brass versus commercial brass, there can be a big difference.

That is why I like to, at a minimum, sort cases by headstamp.

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I wouldn’t worry about the wrong caliber stamp if it was just me, and it mostly is just me. But I don’t want somebody else to get hurt. Chances are slim but not zero.

I have a nephew that I have always thought was of normal intelligence, and he chambered and fired the wrong round in his rifle. I don’t know all the details, but he wasn’t hurt. But he made me rethink my impression of his intelligence. Hard to remember the conversation, but I think he asked me what grain bullet I shot in my 270. I told him, and it seems he went out and looked for 130 grains, but not specifically 270 caliber. What I don’t know is what caliber round in 130 grain would chamber in a 270. He didn’t blow the gun up.

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Originally Posted by 603Country
I wouldn’t worry about the wrong caliber stamp if it was just me, and it mostly is just me. But I don’t want somebody else to get hurt. Chances are slim but not zero.

I have a nephew that I have always thought was of normal intelligence, and he chambered and fired the wrong round in his rifle. I don’t know all the details, but he wasn’t hurt. But he made me rethink my impression of his intelligence. Hard to remember the conversation, but I think he asked me what grain bullet I shot in my 270. I told him, and it seems he went out and looked for 130 grains, but not specifically 270 caliber. What I don’t know is what caliber round in 130 grain would chamber in a 270. He didn’t blow the gun up.



130 gr 6.5mm maybe.

I saw a 6.5 Creedmoor round get chambered and fired in a 7mm-08 A.I. Nothing bad happened except a really weird looking piece of brass afterward. But I wouldn't recommend it as a common practice.


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I saw a 7-08 go through at 270. That’s .284 through .277. Rifle was ruined. No damage at all to the shooter or externally.

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Originally Posted by wp75169
I saw a 7-08 go through at 270. That’s .284 through .277. Rifle was ruined. No damage at all to the shooter or externally.


Heard a story of a .308 going down a .270 scared


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For my hunting rounds I use the same head stamp. When reloading a mild plinking round for my ARs I’ll use mixed head stamps.

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